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UNLV doesn’t have the money to buyout Arroyo.
It would cost $3.75 million at the end of the year. People always love to throw around big names we could never afford. We couldn’t even afford Jim Mora a few years ago.
No, the Mora thing was not about money. I’d have to check back but it wasn’t a money thing that didn’t make it happen.I'm not so sure the Mora thing was about money.
Maybe @j. spilotro can confirm..
Agree on throwing big names around...
In general I have been trying to avoid the COVID talk on this site. I purposely have not opened the confi thread, but alas I got sucked into this thread, because I guess I am an idiot.
6-8 months? I’ve had 10-12 and some I suspect longer with our own employees. But antibodies, they’re easy to measure and they become the “proof” of immunity even though they are only the tip of the iceberg - tcells and bcells tell you long term, antibodies just tell you immediate … I understand why the focus is on antibodies, I truly do, and while they are certainly important, such a tiny piece of the immunity puzzle. Measure t and B cells to get a more complete and accurate picture. If those fade, then there’s trouble on the horizon. Antibodies will fade, they have to … you can’t store that many antibodies in your plasma cumulatively.However I wanted to share some info that I have come across.
I work for the biggest hospital system in one of the largest cities in this country. I get data daily on our covid numbers, and we treat more people with COVID than any other system locally.
I had a screen grab from on of our meetings. I cannot find a way to post it, so I will write out the info. This is a couple of months old, at a time when Delta was ramping up quite a bit (more on that later)
2 matched populations of 1 million people (in the US). One was a highly vaccinated contingent 70% we can them A, the other was the opposite 30% (B). They were from different states.
State A had 130 new cases per week . 29 vaccinated to 101 unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 22%
State B had 5114 cases per week. 250 were vaccinated, 4864 were unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 5%
Some take home messages here. Cursory look at the data: higher % or vaccinated cases. But of course there is if there are more vaccinated people.
It is also worth noting in State B that though the % was total pop was lower, there were nearly 2.5x's more cases in the vaccinated population. Showing how the unvaxxed negative affected the vaccinated in those areas.
Also the obvious 130 vs 5100. Quite a big difference there. Remember equal, matched populations. In America.
It is true the vax isn't full proof, but there is some significant data to show how effective it is, and it becomes more effective the higher the population is vaxxed. In highly vaccinated populations there will still be breakthrough cases, and they will make up a larger population of the total cases, simply because they make more of the total population. But you could assume that there would be many more cases if the population had less total vaccinations.
As for the mask argument. I get it. I am also fully aboard when it comes to minimally effective masks like those shear head wraps. Personally if a place has a mask mandate they should require more effective masks, like what the airlines do for flying.
But the argument that masks are stupid if you take them off for food is missing a point. It is about diminishing risks. Sure you can spread stuff when the mask is off, even for " an individual kernel of popcorn". But there are signs that viral load is related to exposure. So you an effective mask for even 50% of the time, you are reducing potential risk. Also If you require a mask that many eventually ignore. Some others may not, so the total risk does go down.
And you can't tell me that a mask that surgeons where over your cut open, exposed, highly susceptible bodies does not help at all at reducing the amount of potential spread of this primarily respiratory distributed virus.
Here is the good news. Before Delta hit, things were ramping down SIGNIFICANTLY. Our numbers of hospitalizations were at the lowest since we starting to track them. Delta did hit hard. Our hospitalizations were almost equal to the highest number we had at the peak (with no vax). And it rose in weeks what it took months to do in 2020. So the actual good new, numbers are falling steady and we are nearing the low numbers that we had before delta. Locally masks are mostly optional FWIW. Most people in public here do not wear them.
Lets hope this continues to fall. Also lets hope there isn't another variant that hits as hard, or harder than Delta.
I strongly encourage people to get vaccinated. The higher the population the lower the risk. I have had to wear a mask every day at work since this thing has started. I work out (indoors) with one. I continue to wear it in most public places since about 30% of patient load are elderly and susceptible to getting significantly sick. I am tired of the mask, believe especially fully vaxxed ( and recently boosted). But I am coming home for the Hawaii football game and the 2 basketball games and wanted to protect my vaccinated, elderly parents.
Also some other data. Getting COVID has mixed results in immunity. The average is 3 months from what I have been told by our experts. Some have very little to no antibodies after getting sick. The Vaccinated has shown 6-8 months of antibody protection. That also varies. But it is worth noting that the vax generally protects better than getting the disease itself.
Protects is the operative word here. Nothing is 100% or even a "cure". So do what you can to protect yourself and others.
I will go back into my hole now.
What’s unsettling is the constant goalpost moving and it never moves towards the “normal” side, always shifts further from. Things have been redefined to fit the pandemic (herd has been officially redefined, even the word “vax” has been redefined. Protection is redefined. 100% has been redefined to sometimes. Naturally immune has been struck from the dictionary altogether. Studies are intentionally massaged to “prove” what they want to espouse. It’s sickening what they’ve done with “science”. All the jockeying has been towards … masks save lives, this thing kills nearly anybody that it touches, but the vax is an incredible invention and it won’t cause any long term problems, it’s safe for kids even.I respect your knowledge and appreciate you sharing that data.
Here’s where I don’t trust: are the unvaxxed those without one jab? Those without the second jab? Those without the booster? Those within 2-weeks of the second jab?
The later group is highly susceptible to catching this so labeling someone within that timeframe as “unvaxxed” is disingenuous. It skews the numbers to show what you want them to.
It’s like when they recently tried to change the definition of space travel. They, literally, changed how far “outer space” was from Earth just to say someone had completed the first whatever type of flight to outer space. The science community, rightfully, questioned that move.
Any treatments we do must be proven over time before they are accepted and approved. They must also be scrutinized and tested against in order to be accepted. Then we need to look at the long-term affects. You’re very aware of this as a PT. The long-term efficacy and side effects from the “jab” aren’t known at this point because they haven’t been tested.
I talked with a cardiac doctor one time while observing his surgery and he was telling me what he could and couldn’t do based on the long-term studies. “Because this procedure is only 50% effective, I can’t do it since I could cause more harm than good.” (The guy is a genius and knows everything about everything!). He and the medical community knew that because that method had been scrutinized versus the patient’s ability to recover on their own.
This is what causes me pause. I got sick from the flu shot. I sure as (beep) don’t want to come down with Gillian Barre from a “jab.”
In general I have been trying to avoid the COVID talk on this site. I purposely have not opened the confi thread, but alas I got sucked into this thread, because I guess I am an idiot.
However I wanted to share some info that I have come across.
I work for the biggest hospital system in one of the largest cities in this country. I get data daily on our covid numbers, and we treat more people with COVID than any other system locally.
I had a screen grab from on of our meetings. I cannot find a way to post it, so I will write out the info. This is a couple of months old, at a time when Delta was ramping up quite a bit (more on that later)
2 matched populations of 1 million people (in the US). One was a highly vaccinated contingent 70% we can them A, the other was the opposite 30% (B). They were from different states.
State A had 130 new cases per week . 29 vaccinated to 101 unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 22%
State B had 5114 cases per week. 250 were vaccinated, 4864 were unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 5%
Some take home messages here. Cursory look at the data: higher % or vaccinated cases. But of course there is if there are more vaccinated people.
It is also worth noting in State B that though the % was total pop was lower, there were nearly 2.5x's more cases in the vaccinated population. Showing how the unvaxxed negative affected the vaccinated in those areas.
Also the obvious 130 vs 5100. Quite a big difference there. Remember equal, matched populations. In America.
It is true the vax isn't full proof, but there is some significant data to show how effective it is, and it becomes more effective the higher the population is vaxxed. In highly vaccinated populations there will still be breakthrough cases, and they will make up a larger population of the total cases, simply because they make more of the total population. But you could assume that there would be many more cases if the population had less total vaccinations.
As for the mask argument. I get it. I am also fully aboard when it comes to minimally effective masks like those shear head wraps. Personally if a place has a mask mandate they should require more effective masks, like what the airlines do for flying.
But the argument that masks are stupid if you take them off for food is missing a point. It is about diminishing risks. Sure you can spread stuff when the mask is off, even for " an individual kernel of popcorn". But there are signs that viral load is related to exposure. So you an effective mask for even 50% of the time, you are reducing potential risk. Also If you require a mask that many eventually ignore. Some others may not, so the total risk does go down.
And you can't tell me that a mask that surgeons where over your cut open, exposed, highly susceptible bodies does not help at all at reducing the amount of potential spread of this primarily respiratory distributed virus.
Here is the good news. Before Delta hit, things were ramping down SIGNIFICANTLY. Our numbers of hospitalizations were at the lowest since we starting to track them. Delta did hit hard. Our hospitalizations were almost equal to the highest number we had at the peak (with no vax). And it rose in weeks what it took months to do in 2020. So the actual good new, numbers are falling steady and we are nearing the low numbers that we had before delta. Locally masks are mostly optional FWIW. Most people in public here do not wear them.
Lets hope this continues to fall. Also lets hope there isn't another variant that hits as hard, or harder than Delta.
I strongly encourage people to get vaccinated. The higher the population the lower the risk. I have had to wear a mask every day at work since this thing has started. I work out (indoors) with one. I continue to wear it in most public places since about 30% of patient load are elderly and susceptible to getting significantly sick. I am tired of the mask, believe especially fully vaxxed ( and recently boosted). But I am coming home for the Hawaii football game and the 2 basketball games and wanted to protect my vaccinated, elderly parents.
Also some other data. Getting COVID has mixed results in immunity. The average is 3 months from what I have been told by our experts. Some have very little to no antibodies after getting sick. The Vaccinated has shown 6-8 months of antibody protection. That also varies. But it is worth noting that the vax generally protects better than getting the disease itself.
Protects is the operative word here. Nothing is 100% or even a "cure". So do what you can to protect yourself and others.
I will go back into my hole now.
That's why third parties need to scrutinize data, parties dealing in science, not payoffs.Integrity in question
Pfizer data questioned.
This throws shade on their data and makes people question the science.
I read where Pfizer just added a compound to their kids size vials that helps battle myocarditis. I think. Haven' looked too closely. But it wouldn't surprise me. It SHOULD have to go back through the FDA for re-approval with a new formulation, not that it would matter, the last bastion of hope rubber stamps shit in record time now .... at least a couple of people weren't comfortable with it ... would rather they stay and fight than step down though.Reducing risk..
Can you explain the science behind wearing a mask to my table at a restaurant, taking mask off for two hours, placing mask back on to leave restraunt, is reducing risk?
It's for optics nonsense.
It's like the stupid 'this table has been sanitized' signs you see.
What? Taco Bell wasn't cleaning tables before? Applebees didn't wash their silverware? Are they using some new Anti-Microbial Covid solution?
There aren't any new sanitation practices going on. It's for optic nonsense.
Even better example. The stupid plastic partitions up everywhere. New York Times did an article saying they likely do more harm than good by limiting airflow. But they are still up all over Vegas.
Purely a guess here, but had grocery stores slapped some oscillating fans up everywhere, to create a more continuous air flow it would be more helpful than the masks.
Reality is, its here to stay. It will become endemic and it will be on each individual to take precautions.
We're still required to wear masks here in Nevada. After being told if you were vaxxed they could come off.
Its nonsense at this point.
I'll continue to eat my popcorn one kernel at a time...
Also if you aren't vaccinated, consider it. At the very least it mitigates symptoms. And once we get to 80% vaccination all the BS stops. Unless of course the goalposts are moved yet again..
I posted the deaths by age attributed to Covid according to the CDC. Also linked an article about correlation of obesity and Covid hospitalizations and deaths. Its massive.
That is what the CDC should be churning out daily. The at risk groups. Hammer that point home. Tell people in blunt terms to exercise, eat right etc. You see any big push on that topic? I don't. Not only would it reduce Covid deaths, it helps people to live a healthier life long term.
Instead its masks, lockdowns and mandates.
Recovery rate for Covid is extremely high. No I'm not saying it's just the flu. It isn't. It's obviously worse. But we are treating low risk, healthy people like they have the plague. It's been portrayed that way on the nightly news and by our politicians. It needs to stop.
Also what's your feeling on the link between the Moderna vaccine and myocarditis in people under 18? I'll link the NPR story if you like. Is it worth the risk to mandate people under 18 be vaccinated?
Several European countries have halted administering Moderna to those under 30. Oh, hey remember that shot we told you, you had to take...Well about that.
Again, I still think people should vaccinate, but believe it's their right to weigh the risks and they should not be ostracized from society if they don't.
The F.D.A. is assessing whether the Moderna vaccine can cause heart problems in adolescents. (Published 2021)
The F.D.A. has notified Moderna that it needs more time to review the vaccine’s safety and may not deliver a decision until January.www.nytimes.com
I read where Pfizer just added a compound to their kids size vials that helps battle myocarditis. I think. Haven' looked too closely. But it wouldn't surprise me. It SHOULD have to go back through the FDA for re-approval with a new formulation, not that it would matter, the last bastion of hope rubber stamps shit in record time now .... at least a couple of people weren't comfortable with it ... would rather they stay and fight than step down though.
Everyone needs to be vaxxed. Eliminate the control group as much as you can so that if issues arise, you have nothing to compare it with.I find the Moderna situation in Europe interesting.
Let's say you are 28. Your job required you to get the vaccine. You develop myocarditis. Nobody can be held liable? I have a hard time with that..
THIS!I find the Moderna situation in Europe interesting.
Let's say you are 28. Your job required you to get the vaccine. You develop myocarditis. Nobody can be held liable? I have a hard time with that..
THIS!
Guillan Barre is our age group’s myocarditis. Look it up. It sounds “mild” until you’ve tracked it from the hospital, to inpatient rehab, on to outpatient rehab like I did for my final case study for PT. It’s extremely limiting and could have long-term adverse effects.
So let’s say you’re unlucky and are struck with this diagnosis. You may not be thinking of suing for millions but who is going to care for you in the short-term and for the long-term? Someone has to stay home so that cuts out two incomes from the family. Insurance covers MINIMAL in home health (this started Jan 2020 and is why I got out). So you can’t work, can’t pay bills, and may get some bad wounds from laying in one position for too long.
But it’s just a “jab.”
If I lose every dime by not being able to work, if vaccines are required, then so be it. I will still have my health and that’s invaluable.
The counter is if I catch covid. It’s a risk, but I’m not inviting one possible risk to “maybe” prevent another.
I’m about choice. And truth. We have neither.Because this stuff is so polarizing, I feel like I have to preface everything with the fact I am vaccinated and still think people should.
But I understand the hesitancy of some. (Not the Nano robot Qanon crowd).
I have issues with..
Mandates.
Actual efficacy of masks.
How it was initially rolled out.
Lack of liability.
Hypocrisy of those mandating or pushing mandates not following their own rules.
The constant doom and gloom coverage.
The lack of honesty in reporting ie. Failure or reluctance to highlight the most at risk groups.
I don't have any vaccine fears per say.
I think it limiting symptoms and helping protect at risk folks is a net positive.
And sadly it's the only metric that I think will end all the mandates..
Every ounce of information should be made available to the public. Positives, negatives, everything.
I understand why it was expedited. But man, this was insanely fast especially with a brand new technology. Not comfortable with it because I believe in actual science, observation, trial and error. And the messaging, holy crap was it awful. Ain’t a single person here that thought 11 months ago that the success rate would be where it is based on what was stated at that time.
There are have been approximately 500 children under the age of 18 that have died of COVID since the beginning of the pandemic.I read where Pfizer just added a compound to their kids size vials that helps battle myocarditis. I think. Haven' looked too closely. But it wouldn't surprise me. It SHOULD have to go back through the FDA for re-approval with a new formulation, not that it would matter, the last bastion of hope rubber stamps shit in record time now .... at least a couple of people weren't comfortable with it ... would rather they stay and fight than step down though.
Israeli scientific studies have strongly concluded that the natural immunity from a previous Covid infection is significantly stronger than the immunity afforded by the vaccines.In general I have been trying to avoid the COVID talk on this site. I purposely have not opened the confi thread, but alas I got sucked into this thread, because I guess I am an idiot.
However I wanted to share some info that I have come across.
I work for the biggest hospital system in one of the largest cities in this country. I get data daily on our covid numbers, and we treat more people with COVID than any other system locally.
I had a screen grab from on of our meetings. I cannot find a way to post it, so I will write out the info. This is a couple of months old, at a time when Delta was ramping up quite a bit (more on that later)
2 matched populations of 1 million people (in the US). One was a highly vaccinated contingent 70% we can them A, the other was the opposite 30% (B). They were from different states.
State A had 130 new cases per week . 29 vaccinated to 101 unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 22%
State B had 5114 cases per week. 250 were vaccinated, 4864 were unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 5%
Some take home messages here. Cursory look at the data: higher % or vaccinated cases. But of course there is if there are more vaccinated people.
It is also worth noting in State B that though the % was total pop was lower, there were nearly 2.5x's more cases in the vaccinated population. Showing how the unvaxxed negative affected the vaccinated in those areas.
Also the obvious 130 vs 5100. Quite a big difference there. Remember equal, matched populations. In America.
It is true the vax isn't full proof, but there is some significant data to show how effective it is, and it becomes more effective the higher the population is vaxxed. In highly vaccinated populations there will still be breakthrough cases, and they will make up a larger population of the total cases, simply because they make more of the total population. But you could assume that there would be many more cases if the population had less total vaccinations.
As for the mask argument. I get it. I am also fully aboard when it comes to minimally effective masks like those shear head wraps. Personally if a place has a mask mandate they should require more effective masks, like what the airlines do for flying.
But the argument that masks are stupid if you take them off for food is missing a point. It is about diminishing risks. Sure you can spread stuff when the mask is off, even for " an individual kernel of popcorn". But there are signs that viral load is related to exposure. So you an effective mask for even 50% of the time, you are reducing potential risk. Also If you require a mask that many eventually ignore. Some others may not, so the total risk does go down.
And you can't tell me that a mask that surgeons where over your cut open, exposed, highly susceptible bodies does not help at all at reducing the amount of potential spread of this primarily respiratory distributed virus.
Here is the good news. Before Delta hit, things were ramping down SIGNIFICANTLY. Our numbers of hospitalizations were at the lowest since we starting to track them. Delta did hit hard. Our hospitalizations were almost equal to the highest number we had at the peak (with no vax). And it rose in weeks what it took months to do in 2020. So the actual good new, numbers are falling steady and we are nearing the low numbers that we had before delta. Locally masks are mostly optional FWIW. Most people in public here do not wear them.
Lets hope this continues to fall. Also lets hope there isn't another variant that hits as hard, or harder than Delta.
I strongly encourage people to get vaccinated. The higher the population the lower the risk. I have had to wear a mask every day at work since this thing has started. I work out (indoors) with one. I continue to wear it in most public places since about 30% of patient load are elderly and susceptible to getting significantly sick. I am tired of the mask, believe especially fully vaxxed ( and recently boosted). But I am coming home for the Hawaii football game and the 2 basketball games and wanted to protect my vaccinated, elderly parents.
Also some other data. Getting COVID has mixed results in immunity. The average is 3 months from what I have been told by our experts. Some have very little to no antibodies after getting sick. The Vaccinated has shown 6-8 months of antibody protection. That also varies. But it is worth noting that the vax generally protects better than getting the disease itself.
Protects is the operative word here. Nothing is 100% or even a "cure". So do what you can to protect yourself and others.
I will go back into my hole now.
I love the passive aggressive approach yet again!BC, as usual, you go personal. When you find an example of me claiming to know more than scientists, please let me know. You may not trust NIH, CDC, WHO, Mayo clinic, many doctors and, yes, scientists. Maybe they are all stupid.
My statement was that I will follow my doctors' recommendations. I will stand with that.
Do what you will.
Let’s chill now.I actually came back to wish you good health. Maybe after 5 years, we can chill.
There’s no room for calm sensibility with covid. The only proper reaction is emotion and anecdotes. Smdh.@j. spilotro
Take 6 minutes and watch this.
He's a a data guy not a doctor or epidemiologist.
Damn near exactly how I view Covid.
Well said. Two things...In general I have been trying to avoid the COVID talk on this site. I purposely have not opened the confi thread, but alas I got sucked into this thread, because I guess I am an idiot.
However I wanted to share some info that I have come across.
I work for the biggest hospital system in one of the largest cities in this country. I get data daily on our covid numbers, and we treat more people with COVID than any other system locally.
I had a screen grab from on of our meetings. I cannot find a way to post it, so I will write out the info. This is a couple of months old, at a time when Delta was ramping up quite a bit (more on that later)
2 matched populations of 1 million people (in the US). One was a highly vaccinated contingent 70% we can them A, the other was the opposite 30% (B). They were from different states.
State A had 130 new cases per week . 29 vaccinated to 101 unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 22%
State B had 5114 cases per week. 250 were vaccinated, 4864 were unvaxxed. % of vaccinated cases was 5%
Some take home messages here. Cursory look at the data: higher % or vaccinated cases. But of course there is if there are more vaccinated people.
It is also worth noting in State B that though the % was total pop was lower, there were nearly 2.5x's more cases in the vaccinated population. Showing how the unvaxxed negative affected the vaccinated in those areas.
Also the obvious 130 vs 5100. Quite a big difference there. Remember equal, matched populations. In America.
It is true the vax isn't full proof, but there is some significant data to show how effective it is, and it becomes more effective the higher the population is vaxxed. In highly vaccinated populations there will still be breakthrough cases, and they will make up a larger population of the total cases, simply because they make more of the total population. But you could assume that there would be many more cases if the population had less total vaccinations.
As for the mask argument. I get it. I am also fully aboard when it comes to minimally effective masks like those shear head wraps. Personally if a place has a mask mandate they should require more effective masks, like what the airlines do for flying.
But the argument that masks are stupid if you take them off for food is missing a point. It is about diminishing risks. Sure you can spread stuff when the mask is off, even for " an individual kernel of popcorn". But there are signs that viral load is related to exposure. So you an effective mask for even 50% of the time, you are reducing potential risk. Also If you require a mask that many eventually ignore. Some others may not, so the total risk does go down.
And you can't tell me that a mask that surgeons where over your cut open, exposed, highly susceptible bodies does not help at all at reducing the amount of potential spread of this primarily respiratory distributed virus.
Here is the good news. Before Delta hit, things were ramping down SIGNIFICANTLY. Our numbers of hospitalizations were at the lowest since we starting to track them. Delta did hit hard. Our hospitalizations were almost equal to the highest number we had at the peak (with no vax). And it rose in weeks what it took months to do in 2020. So the actual good new, numbers are falling steady and we are nearing the low numbers that we had before delta. Locally masks are mostly optional FWIW. Most people in public here do not wear them.
Lets hope this continues to fall. Also lets hope there isn't another variant that hits as hard, or harder than Delta.
I strongly encourage people to get vaccinated. The higher the population the lower the risk. I have had to wear a mask every day at work since this thing has started. I work out (indoors) with one. I continue to wear it in most public places since about 30% of patient load are elderly and susceptible to getting significantly sick. I am tired of the mask, believe especially fully vaxxed ( and recently boosted). But I am coming home for the Hawaii football game and the 2 basketball games and wanted to protect my vaccinated, elderly parents.
Also some other data. Getting COVID has mixed results in immunity. The average is 3 months from what I have been told by our experts. Some have very little to no antibodies after getting sick. The Vaccinated has shown 6-8 months of antibody protection. That also varies. But it is worth noting that the vax generally protects better than getting the disease itself.
Protects is the operative word here. Nothing is 100% or even a "cure". So do what you can to protect yourself and others.
I will go back into my hole now.
Great ideaYou guys can discuss politics and watch UNLV basketball at the same time!!
Put it live for those that can’t go to the game.
I think it could get some views on YouTube.
wow !@j. spilotro
Take 6 minutes and watch this.
He's a a data guy not a doctor or epidemiologist.
Damn near exactly how I view Covid.
If you are still high with abs at 16 months without vax, you may have had a re-exposure (asymptomatcally/mild cold) … which I actually hope is the case. Then your body is doing what God and evolution intended in the first place.Well said. Two things...
1. after 16 months of getting covid My antibodies are VERY high. Just did my 3rd blood test last week.
2. In your B scenario. If the vaxxed can get it and transmit it, why are you saying the unvaxxed transmitted it to the vaxxed ?
Real ques, no agenda and THANKS for the informed insight