Seeing more and more of this from some hardline pushers of masking and mandates.
The cynical side of me says midterms are approaching and polling looks really bad for Democrats...
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As far as left wing radicals go unless you are a full on kool aid drinking flunky then you are right wing. Lifelong Democrats like Manchin now villainized by the left because he doesn't goose step to everything the left wants.Maybe he means me? I didn’t know Independent voters were Right Wing?
They all suck as far as I’m concerned. Always have.
Maybe TE? Any other mods?
Not sure.
As far as left wing radicals go unless you are a full on kool aid drinking flunky then you are right wing. Lifelong Democrats like Manchin now villainized by the left because he doesn't goose step to everything the left wants.
Exactly...and of course now the Republicans are doing it with Cheney.Sinema who is pretty to the left is a pariah because she dared show so fiscal conservatism.. The horror...
Exactly...and of course now the Republicans are doing it with Cheney.
The Science changed …Posted on the other board too, but I just got an email from CCSD stating that as of the end of day today, mask mandates in the schools are done for. It's about time!
Unfortunately, a lot of people including a fair amount of my friends and family have the mentality to just believe what the media and government are saying, because, why would they lie or try to manipulate me? Plus, there's been so much misinformation in regards to their effectiveness, so it's tough to know what to believe. Just glad it's gone.The Science changed …
Er, his polling sucked …
People that took masks hook, line and sinker - you were fooled. They forced you wear a version of MAGA hat and defend it to your death. You poor, controllable saps.
Unfortunately, I’d say it’s most people and sadly, they won’t come to grips with it. This is what can happen when you think things are pure, people can’t be evil, when you give the benefit of the doubt to everything and question nothing.Unfortunately, a lot of people including a fair amount of my friends and family have the mentality to just believe what the media and government are saying, because, why would they lie or try to manipulate me? Plus, there's been so much misinformation in regards to their effectiveness, so it's tough to know what to believe. Just glad it's gone.
For sure. When I was in China years ago, tons of people were walking around town wearing masks. Just seemed to be the cultural norm there at the time. I sure hope the USA doesn't go that direction. I don't think it will, but if that's the governments first move any time a new virus starts spreading, it could head that way.Unfortunately, I’d say it’s most people and sadly, they won’t come to grips with it. This is what can happen when you think things are pure, people can’t be evil, when you give the benefit of the doubt to everything and question nothing.
If people STILL want to wear masks wherever, I’m not going to say anything about it, whatever they want to do. But it’ll be a clear sign to me that many of those that still choose to wear them - they’ve been mentally damaged by the past two years.
You'd hope that's the cultural/govermental differences and that people here wouldn't put up with it. But I never thought as many sheep would fall for this as currently did ....For sure. When I was in China years ago, tons of people were walking around town wearing masks. Just seemed to be the cultural norm there at the time. I sure hope the USA doesn't go that direction. I don't think it will, but if that's the governments first move any time a new virus starts spreading, it could head that way.
All movements and decisions have been non-medical and strictly political and now they are backtracking in hopes to make up for the miles of ground they lost with their insanity.Considering the number of people in hospitals and dying is very similar to 6-9 months ago, was the removal of the mask requirement due to political or financial pressure?
Considering the number of people in hospitals and dying is very similar to 6-9 months ago, was the removal of the mask requirement due to political or financial pressure?
Hey, if people believe it’s great, it’s a miracle, best thing ever … so be it.No doubt that post will piss off a few people who believe in the vaccine!
Just have to be able to assess studies. Most can’t, they’ll take a headline instead.I believe in the vaccine and am not pissed off. I am mostly amazed at the contradictory information out there. After seeing Joe’s post, I found a recent article in the BMJ, which I assume is the British Medical Journal, that lauds the effectiveness of the vaccine. So the sheep who believe the scientist can feel vindicated that the vaccine works, and the sheep who believe in various conspiracies can believe the vaccine is ineffective or worse. Meanwhile, stay safe everyone🙂
That graph doesn't mean it's completely ineffective it means it isn't the panacea many claim it to be and it means hospitalizations isn't an issue of the unvaccinated as so many will believe simply because Biden told them to.I believe in the vaccine and am not pissed off. I am mostly amazed at the contradictory information out there. After seeing Joe’s post, I found a recent article in the BMJ, which I assume is the British Medical Journal, that lauds the effectiveness of the vaccine. So the sheep who believe the scientist can feel vindicated that the vaccine works, and the sheep who believe in various conspiracies can believe the vaccine is ineffective or worse. Meanwhile, stay safe everyone🙂
I appreciate that Prevention magazine is advising to start exercising. I wish this became a more universal message!
Exercise and Covid
They know what is most beneficial and what’s less beneficial, unfortunately, they won’t be honest with it. While we might not know everything several things have been clear for quite some time and no energy was directed towards it. That’s negligence, imo.Personal anecdotes stink...Hate to use them, but...
An acquaintance of mine is a paramedic. Said very early on in the pandemic that the number of obese patience they were transporting who were struggling with Covid was definitely noticeable. Again this was a few months into to the pandemic. So about 2 years ago. The fact that it's been so under reported and has not been driven home by the CDC is borderline negligent in my opinion.
Rough estimates are 30% of Covid deaths can be linked to complications magnified by obesity.
Vaccines are great for lessening symptoms. So is actually taking care of your own body...
One of those helps in the immediate. The other a lifetime..
I know the concept of two different things both being true is hard for some to grasp, but that is definitely the case here.
Can anyone link an interview with the CDC director imploring people to look at exercising/dieting?
I'll stand corrected if it exists.
Didn’t read the article but apparently the venerable NYT came out with a piece today that the even more venerable CDC has lots of data but they don’t want to release it yet because it may be misconstrued. Sounds fishy as hell to me.They know what is most beneficial and what’s less beneficial, unfortunately, they won’t be honest with it. While we might not know everything several things have been clear for quite some time and no energy was directed towards it. That’s negligence, imo.
Listen, when the dust settles and if the full truth or near full truth comes out, we did terribly with it all. On every level. And personally, I’d like to see some people spend the rest of their lives in prison but, you know, the elite and protected can do whatever they want with no accountability. It’s fd up, but we are at an extreme with that sort of thing right now and I’m just so surprised that so many “level headed” people are ok with that type of society.
Didn’t read the article but apparently the venerable NYT came out with a piece today that the even more venerable CDC has lots of data but they don’t want to release it yet because it may be misconstrued. Sounds fishy as hell to me.
Looking forward to the Pfizer trial data, data that they don’t want released for 75 years (should make any reasonable person question things) will be (partially) released, month by month.
I doubt we will get complete truths. The world is full on propaganda cycle. Several places are already blaming things (eggs, stress, Covid infection, climate) for the expected myocarditis upticks. They’ll do the same sort of things with cancer increases, stroke, autoimmune issues, etc, etc, etc).
I’d like to see the source(s) that determined that the vaccines decrease the effects of covid. I’m not being confrontational, it’s just that the phrase is generally accepted by some but I haven’t seen the studies to support that.I don't think there will be anything nefarious in the Pfizer trials.
What I think will come out is that they knew about the possibility of waning efficacy. That mutations could be problematic.
The Covid vs Vaccine myocarditis data will be interesting.
It appears to be a possible side effect from both Covid and from the vaccines..
Not sure I've seen anything definitive on which has higher risk.
A study that is set up with its end point being a decrease of one symptom or more - that’s not a challenge, that’s easy. It’s a freshman open book test with a month to finish - it’s set up for “success”.I’d like to see the source(s) that determined that the vaccines decrease the effects of covid. I’m not being confrontational, it’s just that the phrase is generally accepted by some but I haven’t seen the studies to support that.
If someone has that/those studies, please share.
Either is death, myocarditis/pericarditis, negative efficacy, immunosuppression by overstimulation from overuse leading to dormant infections ramping up and cancers to grow at faster rates.