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It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

They lost by 3 on a walk off field goal to the team #8. It's not ridiculous at all.

The loss column is exceptionally over valued in CFB rankings. They ran for almost 350 and passed for over 250 vs Portland State having 1 turnover, low penalties/yards, and 70% 3rd down conversion. They won by 42. They did what they needed to do. The beat GASO on the road in what was a game I think most of us would have assumed they rolled a little easier.
One quality loss does not exceed two quality wins.

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The more I think about it, I'm not sure how much AFA leaving would change anything.
The only way this changes anything is that it leave 1 fewer team the PAC could poach to dissolve the MW and save some money.
It would still take 4 teams to dissolve the thing. Then you take UNLV, USU, Wyoming, and... SJSU?
The last 2 will likely drive the cost down a good amount.

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Memphis ain't coming to the MWC.
Neither is Tulane. We can't offer more than the PAC.

Not a single person is tuning in to watch UNM play UC Davis in football.

You're proving my point.

There is nobody on that list that comes remotely close to helping secure a media deal comparable to what we had.

I hate this crap as much as anyone here. But I 100% do not want to get left behind in a depleted MWC.
Bull, UNLV won the National Championship in what conference in 1990? UNLV is a worldwide phenomena. Does it matter?

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It is tough, that is why I am so pissed. Snakes like WSU and OSU should never been entertained.
Memphis
Tulane
Sacremento State
UC Irvine
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
UC Davis
The Montanas' schools (2)
The Dakotas
We need more Cali and Texas schools.

Memphis ain't coming to the MWC.
Neither is Tulane. We can't offer more than the PAC.

Not a single person is tuning in to watch UNM play UC Davis in football.

You're proving my point.

There is nobody on that list that comes remotely close to helping secure a media deal comparable to what we had.

I hate this crap as much as anyone here. But I 100% do not want to get left behind in a depleted MWC.

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Not sure how that would lead to dissolution. I don't think the traitorous 4 have a vote anymore, and 8 traitors, even if they could vote, aren't enough to dissolve. The Pac-2 is stuck paying the $43M and whatever else we will owe if we poach further. Don't think our money would stretch to 8 poaches, obviously depending on what we are committing to in terms of helping with exit fees. Sure wish someone would leak that info.

This whole thing is just a cluster. We have a Commissioner that was/is totally biased as keeping the Pac keeps her employed, no matter how much money she blows along the way. Your Commissioner had the interests of the entire MW in her mind, which is admirable but which blew up in her face. IMHO, the remaining question is who do we poach in addition to UNLV, and when. SJSU has raised their profile, but a 21,000 seat stadium isn't going to cut it. "plans" for restoring seating? I like Wyoming but geez they are sucking.

Relative to the wounded MW - I don't see the potential FCS prospects as being realistic. First, why would any of them jump anywhere? They seem to be doing just fine. And of the obvious ones (Montana, MSU, ND State and SD State), Montana is the only one with a 20,000 plus stadium.
I like your take and you add another perspective. It is a cluster! 😆

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Dude you think TV execs give a damn how good a school is at dissecting frogs when figuring out these media deals?

OK let's play a game...

Tell me the 5 schools you are going to poach to the MWC and get the same media deal they have now.
It is tough, that is why I am so pissed. Snakes like WSU and OSU should never been entertained.
Memphis
Tulane
Sacremento State
UC Irvine
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
UC Davis
The Montanas' schools (2)
The Dakotas
We need more Cali and Texas schools.

Edit: UC San Diego still have Lavin as Coach? If they afford him, yes.
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Dude you think TV execs give a damn how good a school is at dissecting frogs when figuring out these media deals?

OK let's play a game...

Tell me the 5 schools you are going to poach to the MWC and get the same media deal they have now.
We weren't necessarily going to get that deal anyways... I still don't see how the Pac 2 think they're getting as much as they are, but hey more power to them...
There aren't like for like replacements, but there also isn't a reason to make dumb long term decisions like paying exit fees and agreeing to a smaller cut of revenue just because you weren't in the first 6 teams or you're worried about what the future TV deal looks like

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BSU is a crappy research school. CSU basketball and football are trending downward. They are not irreplaceable.

Dude you think TV execs give a damn how good a school is at dissecting frogs when figuring out these media deals?

OK let's play a game...

Tell me the 5 schools you are going to poach to the MWC and get the same media deal they have now.

It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

But their run game is non-existent and it took a 67 yard TD pass and 1 drive late in the 4th for him to have a halfway decent stat line against an average Stanford team... if you make a team 1 dimensional it's easy to pin your ears back...
I didn't picked Syracuse to beat UNLV but that QB is legit. He can make a lot of things look easy. Just be very careful with a team like this. He is no Tom Brady but Brady made a lot of coaches look good.
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It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

Yessir. That McCord is no joke at QB for Syracuse.
But their run game is non-existent and it took a 67 yard TD pass and 1 drive late in the 4th for him to have a halfway decent stat line against an average Stanford team... if you make a team 1 dimensional it's easy to pin your ears back...
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Yes, SDSU and Fresno are big losses but BSU and CSU are not. SDSU and BSU have been actively f*cking the MWC for years. Let them go. Whether or not UNLV stays in the MWC, I am so glad UNLV sparated from BSU and their BS.

Yes they are big losses Trip.

Boise has the biggest name recognition in the conference.

CSU has a major media market.

AFA wants to get out and join AAC Army/Navy.

The conference is in real trouble if that happens.

It will have to poach schools to survive.

If PAC convinces 1 more school to jump ship the MWC could be done.

Even if it survives it's a shell of itself.
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Why on Earth would anyone want to dissolved the MWC when you got over $100M coming? So you can save the PAC money?
This.. and potentially 140-160 million if 2 MWC schools go. That's why there is no easy answer on the "what's next" other than wait 30 days till payment is due collect 5 million and then move to phase 2...

It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

If you are going to take a 3 point loss as a positive point, you also need to look at the fact they struggled to beat a 2-2 Georgia Southern that lost by 39 to Ole Miss. I give them credit for playing Oregon close, but that was sandwiched between two other weak teams. As for Oregon, I think they are way over ranked and will end up losing to UCLA next week. I also understand that the huge negative for UNLV is that Houston looked bad this week, and Kansas found another way to lose in the 4th quarter, so UNLV needs to continue to win, and the BSU game may be for all the marbles next month.
I agree that Oregon is not the team I expected them to be so far in the year. That's why I specifically outlined it as "if you believe Oregon is..." framework. I don't think there's a prayer UCLA beats Oregon. Like, I don't think it's with 21. That's not me saying Oregon is great, I just think UCLA is doo doo.

As for BSU, what they have done outside of Oregon is unremarkable, agreed. They did what they should have done vs PSU, and probably underperformed against GASO, but got it done. Also, Ole Miss is *clearly* a better team than BSU or anyone in the G5. There were also first game of year, travel, etc factors in play.

All that to say, I could UNLV and Boise State basically being in the same place, just happens that this time BSU is ranked. And likely, as was mentioned, due to brand awareness and comfort. No debate there, I was just saying it isn't 'ridiculous' IMO that BSU is where they are, even if I don't necessarily agree
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I do think they stick around and take the cash. Why wouldn't they? The only way they are dissolving if the PAC poaches enough teams to dissolve the thing. I don't think they really want to do that, since they will be driving their annual cost revenue by taking more teams than they want.
The remaining teams are looking at 1 mil a year without extra millions of dollars or 1 mil a year with extra of millions of dollars essentially.
Whether they poach or merge with another conference, it still makes sense to try to keep the MW just for the money.

I personally don't think they will dissolve.

Just saying every school right now is weighing options and some of those options are to get the hell off a sinking ship.

It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

We got 4 weeks before we get to Boise. One game at a time. None of those game are easy. We got Fresno coming follow by two away games at Utah State and Oregon State who are 3-1 just beat Purdue by double digits. One game at a time. We dont even have a passing game at this point.
Don't forget Syracuse.
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