They lost by 3 on a walk off field goal to the team #8. It's not ridiculous at all.

The loss column is exceptionally over valued in CFB rankings. They ran for almost 350 and passed for over 250 vs Portland State having 1 turnover, low penalties/yards, and 70% 3rd down conversion. They won by 42. They did what they needed to do. The beat GASO on the road in what was a game I think most of us would have assumed they rolled a little easier.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Path to dissolution.

We are at 8 currently.
Hawaii is football only. I do not know if they get a vote or not. Let's assume yes for now.

AFA is probably going to AAC. It's why I've said they are a huge piece in how this plays out.

AFA leaves now down to 7.

We technically are now no longer a conference unless we can add some schools.

I don't think remaining schools would vote to dissolve the conference.

BUT...

You can bet Presidents and ADs are on the phone right now with CUSA/PAC/AAC etc looking for potential landing spots.

And if enough of them feel relocating is better than trying to cobble the MWC back together they could vote to dissolve removing exit fees.

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If two schools vote not to dissolve then the rest are out of luck and will be forced to pay the fees. 75% vote required. Do not believe Hawaii has a vote. If any deals pays less to the lower teams, not sure why they would give up all that money to get nothing?

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Path to dissolution.

We are at 8 currently.
Hawaii is football only. I do not know if they get a vote or not. Let's assume yes for now.

AFA is probably going to AAC. It's why I've said they are a huge piece in how this plays out.

AFA leaves now down to 7.

We technically are now no longer a conference unless we can add some schools.

I don't think remaining schools would vote to dissolve the conference.

BUT...

You can bet Presidents and ADs are on the phone right now with CUSA/PAC/AAC etc looking for potential landing spots.

And if enough of them feel relocating is better than trying to cobble the MWC back together they could vote to dissolve removing exit fees.

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With a full complement of MWC teams at 12 it needed 9 (75%) to end the conference. Now, assuming Hawaii gets a vote 75% would make it 6 teams. All the PAC has to do is invite the 6 and have them vote to dissolve the MW conference prior to them announcing their departure to the PAC. This way there will be no exit fees and the poaching fees disappear.

Now the PAC is at 12 schools. It can then take the two worst MWC teams it absorbed and relegate them to minimum revenue distribution. Maybe even relegate the bottom 4. That way the top 8 schools will maximize in revenue. The two PAC schools won't have to spend a dime and use that money to better their athletic departments.

Boise getting into the AP poll at 2-1 looks ridiculous but that's how AP rolls I guess... personally that's going to be an excellent opportunity for College GameDay to come to Vegas in October when we both square off as ranked teams

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Rebels not ranked in this weeks AP Poll. Actually dropped to 29th and lost a vote. Boise ranked 25th.

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A bye week always leaves the risk of dropping votes. BSU didn't look all that impressive in their win over a lower division program, but playing on TV is better than not playing at all. Win against Fresno State next week, and UNLV will be ranked.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Not sure how that would lead to dissolution. I don't think the traitorous 4 have a vote anymore, and 8 traitors, even if they could vote, aren't enough to dissolve. The Pac-2 is stuck paying the $43M and whatever else we will owe if we poach further. Don't think our money would stretch to 8 poaches, obviously depending on what we are committing to in terms of helping with exit fees. Sure wish someone would leak that info.

This whole thing is just a cluster. We have a Commissioner that was/is totally biased as keeping the Pac keeps her employed, no matter how much money she blows along the way. Your Commissioner had the interests of the entire MW in her mind, which is admirable but which blew up in her face. IMHO, the remaining question is who do we poach in addition to UNLV, and when. SJSU has raised their profile, but a 21,000 seat stadium isn't going to cut it. "plans" for restoring seating? I like Wyoming but geez they are sucking.

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Path to dissolution.

We are at 8 currently.
Hawaii is football only. I do not know if they get a vote or not. Let's assume yes for now.

AFA is probably going to AAC. It's why I've said they are a huge piece in how this plays out.

AFA leaves now down to 7.

We technically are now no longer a conference unless we can add some schools.

I don't think remaining schools would vote to dissolve the conference.

BUT...

You can bet Presidents and ADs are on the phone right now with CUSA/PAC/AAC etc looking for potential landing spots.

And if enough of them feel relocating is better than trying to cobble the MWC back together they could vote to dissolve removing exit fees.

j. spilotro said:

They wouldn’t. Nickels and dimes you can rationalize. That’s 2-3x the amount.

shes a dunce. But we tend to think those at the top are geniuses, above criticism, they MUST know what they’re doing, they MUST be good - otherwise why would they be hired? Coaches, ADs, presidents, etc.

Once merit as a hiring tool was cast aside … you invite incompetence to prevail. Not every case, but before positions were always earned.

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This puts even more value into UNLV if they can stay ranked and finish the season going to the 12 team playoff. None of the teams in the current PAC have relevance on a national level, so the only thing that would draw in a casual fan is a ranked team, and currently UNLV is the only ranked team.

Loyal Coug1 said:

How do you think WSU feels? Leapfrogged by BSU in the AP. Although we are knocking at #26 in both polls. Next week's game at BSU is huge for both teams.

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WSU will get creamed, Loyal Coug

Edit: Just check the schedule, WSU is going to play BSU in Boise with Boise being ranked for the first time? You're going to have jiss all over your face.

BSU have the reputation, we dont. That is ok. Hope the boys works on their timing with the Sluka and the receivers.

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Yeah, not sure how their 2 wins over Georgia St. and Portland St. are better than our 2 wins against Houston and Kansas.

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How do you think WSU feels? Leapfrogged by BSU in the AP. Although we are knocking at #26 in both polls. Next week's game at BSU is huge for both teams.

Meister_Rebel said:

Thanks to Nebraska and Memphis getting dropped. Memphis didn't even get one vote. Ouch. Nebraska previously ranked #22 got just 7 votes.

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Boston Rebel 2 said:

AP is a joke those guys never watch the west coast games and base it on reputation which is why a one loss BSU team is ahead of us which is laughable.

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Yeah, not sure how their 2 wins over Georgia St. and Portland St. are better than our 2 wins against Houston and Kansas.

Boston Rebel 2 said:

AP is a joke those guys never watch the west coast games and base it on reputation which is why a one loss BSU team is ahead of us which is laughable.

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UNLV will play them in a few weeks. Not a problem.

Masked_rebel said:

Long term no... short term if we can turn our athletic programs into powerhouses, and then in 5 years when Big 12 is looking at expansion, we're a very attractive partner... it's not great, neither is forking out a ton of cash to go to Pac St conference or taking a competitive disadvantage in payout revenue to join them either...

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I'll believe Big12 when it happens.

And I get the reluctance at getting a smaller cut to join PAC. But not joining and making significantly less in
new media deal is also a competitive disadvantage.

None of these scenarios are ideal I think we can all agree on that.

Gator 82 said:

Rebels not ranked in this weeks AP Poll. Actually dropped to 29th and lost a vote. Boise ranked 25th.

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AP is a joke those guys never watch the west coast games and base it on reputation which is why a one loss BSU team is ahead of us which is laughable.

TimothyC3 said:

IMO the smartest potential move by the PAC at this point would be to offer UNLV, USU, Air Force and Wyoming and dissolve the MWC to avoid exit fees and poaching penalties and bring the number to 10. Then look east.

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Not sure how that would lead to dissolution. I don't think the traitorous 4 have a vote anymore, and 8 traitors, even if they could vote, aren't enough to dissolve. The Pac-2 is stuck paying the $43M and whatever else we will owe if we poach further. Don't think our money would stretch to 8 poaches, obviously depending on what we are committing to in terms of helping with exit fees. Sure wish someone would leak that info.

This whole thing is just a cluster. We have a Commissioner that was/is totally biased as keeping the Pac keeps her employed, no matter how much money she blows along the way. Your Commissioner had the interests of the entire MW in her mind, which is admirable but which blew up in her face. IMHO, the remaining question is who do we poach in addition to UNLV, and when. SJSU has raised their profile, but a 21,000 seat stadium isn't going to cut it. "plans" for restoring seating? I like Wyoming but geez they are sucking.

Relative to the wounded MW - I don't see the potential FCS prospects as being realistic. First, why would any of them jump anywhere? They seem to be doing just fine. And of the obvious ones (Montana, MSU, ND State and SD State), Montana is the only one with a 20,000 plus stadium.

Meister_Rebel said:

Thanks to Nebraska and Memphis getting dropped. Memphis didn't even get one vote. Ouch. Nebraska previously ranked #22 got just 7 votes.

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Memphis only getting 7 votes a surprise since Illinois looks good and they lost in OT and could have won if their kicker was healthy.

Rebels not ranked in this weeks AP Poll. Actually dropped to 29th and lost a vote. Boise ranked 25th.

Rebel1986 said:

I figured there was a chance Texas A&M would drop votes after the struggle to beat Bowling Green. Memphis and Nebraska dropped down, but Illinois and BYU passed UNLV. BYU looked good, so expected them to jump up above UNLV. It was nice that byu beat Kansas State bad enough that they dropped below UNLV, but in reality, I think they are a better team than their ranking.

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Had to figure BYU and Illini would jump us and deservedly so. But with a lot of other losses us staying ranked not a surprise. I agree KSU is better but as we all know the rankings are never really the actual best 25 teams.

Thanks to Nebraska and Memphis getting dropped. Memphis didn't even get one vote. Ouch. Nebraska previously ranked #22 got just 7 votes.

Gator 82 said:

Rebels actually moved up to #23 in the Coaches Poll this week.

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I figured there was a chance Texas A&M would drop votes after the struggle to beat Bowling Green. Memphis and Nebraska dropped down, but Illinois and BYU passed UNLV. BYU looked good, so expected them to jump up above UNLV. It was nice that byu beat Kansas State bad enough that they dropped below UNLV, but in reality, I think they are a better team than their ranking.

Rebel1986 said:

The last 4 games are the easiest of the year. Get past the first eight, and UNLV has a really good shot at winning out.

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San Jose won’t be easy they give us a hard time plus they looked good this weekend.

j. spilotro said:

So strange to see one on one coverage in a hail mary situation.

What a hit by Hunter though.

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That was a great hit and though one on one by the time the ball got there three defenders were around the ball and he snuck in.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Said this before even if PAC deal is only 6 million per.

The new MWC deal isn't getting to 3 million next time. Probably closer to CUSA and a million.

I'm not saying it's great.

I'm saying any new iteration of the MWC is going to be a shell of itself and it will become harder to maintain any momentum.

Those schools will have more money in their coffers.

They can make better coaching hires if needed. They will be able to recruit at a higher level.

AFA is likely as good as gone.

If that happens there is no MWC anymore. We are under the minimum required 8.

You'd rather see UNLV stick it out? Watch our commissioner try to cobble together FCS schools or poach CUSA to rebuild the MWC? You really think that is UNLV's best road going forward?

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Long term no... short term if we can turn our athletic programs into powerhouses, and then in 5 years when Big 12 is looking at expansion, we're a very attractive partner... it's not great, neither is forking out a ton of cash to go to Pac St conference or taking a competitive disadvantage in payout revenue to join them either...