Schedule release:

It seems that lately, UNLV releases their basketball schedule as late as they possibly can. I’ve heard the schedule of teams is basically complete although we are working on one more marquee game.
So, either the home schedule ( T&M) is just so weak that they don’t want people to know and hopefully sell some more season tickets, or they are still trying to schedule some meaningful home & home games. It’s hard not to improve onl last years non conference home schedule. Some leaks of scheduled home games is always fun. I miss those days…..
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2023 FB TV Viewership, etc.

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Interesting data - albeit this is only one year's worth. Didn't I read where Liberty would have been the G5 CFP representative had the 12-team setup been in place in 2023? With an average TV viewership of 21,000? 4th worst in the country and well below any of the MW.

Aside from surprising CSU (thanks to their rivalry game with Colorado), the MW's numbers are pedestrian, but not THAT horrible. Well OK Nevada and Utah State were horrible. But 5 MW teams, including UNLV, drew more than ACC-bound SMU. And CSU drew (way) more than 4 of the Pac-12 traitors and by my count 16 other P4 teams. OSU was a surprising 1.74M and WSU was 1.08M.

Looking at 2014 schedules: uw, Stanford, Oregon, Cal (and WSU and OSU) all play Big Sky teams. You guys play Utah Tech from the all over hell FCS conference. The Pac-12 traitors out West also play multiple MW teams as usual. Oregon-BSU, Cal-SDSU, UCLA-Hawaii and Fresno, Stanford-SJSU, FUSC-Utah State.

So who the hell cares and what's the point? Well, in my seemingly fleeting desire for the reverse merger, and after we wash the bitterness out of our mouths, it would make sense for all involved if the traitors replaced their Big Sky games with more PacWest (we'll call it that for this discussion) games. More fan interest and SOS for the traitors, better paydays for the PacWest teams and better SOS. Everybody wins.

There's more but I'll stop here for now.

Drinking the Punch..

Who’s drinking the punch..?

Don’t normally comment on stuff like this.. But Wadddilove all over X, claiming he expects the Rebs are tourney bound..

I’ve learned over the years.. You can’t have blinders on.. Especially when you haven’t seen GAME REPS/OR it happen in a DECADE.. I don’t know if he is looking for likes, etc.. But I’m sorry, having that assessment on the current roster, you don’t know basketball, you just don’t..

Covering the Rebs & having that take is wild to me.. Anyway, I digress..

D1 Wins Since 1980

(From Super Sports West X)

DI Football Wins Since 1980

329—Fresno St
323—Air Force
271—Boise St
219—Utah St
201—Ore St
191—New Mexico

Title IX

Anybody knows what getting rid of Title IX means for college athletics?

In the past, sometimes it was difficult for non-big schools to compete, because essentially you needed to add women’s sports so that the number of men’s schollies was essentially equal to the number of women schollies. And when you have football; you gotta add a lot of women’s sports to make up for the difference. It’s why you might see Women’s Track and Field and Women’s soccer and Women’s Swimming, for example, without seeing counterpart men’s teams.

Does this mean D1 colleges can dump some of the dead weight women’s teams that are just money pits?

I think it’s a bad decision, but understand the politics (I don’t agree with them at all, biologically born men shouldn’t be playing women’s sports, no ifs ands or buts about it for me).
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OT: OFF TOPIC Coronavirus

over the past week, ten days, I’ve been swamped by texts from people wanting to know how bad they should worry. A few threads about it here with comments, texts from people here, family, etc. Even in public, I’ve been asked by people I know.

I’m not a doctor but obviously I’m in a closely related field and have access to information regarding it.

My take is similar to what is in this claim - at this point in time - but this is a novel virus, so I’m positive thoughts will change and maybe very drastically, so keep that in mind. It can get worse if we aren't careful and I don't believe we are prepared for worse. I came across it just a few minutes ago, looks like it’s been out there for awhile, but I believe it to be succinct enough and spot on FOR RIGHT NOW. If it worsens, it could potentially be a life altering event most of us have never experienced. Viruses are nasty, nasty, nasty

If you are interested, take a look.

Like recruiting, this could change 180 degrees at the drop of a hat.

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Can anyone explain this to me?

I go to MW connection from time to time. They rated Transfer classes and had to say this about us:

"The Bad


This is a difficult group to evaluate. According to 247 Sports, UNLV has the top transfer class in the Mountain West. A big part of that is quantity; the Rebels added 16 players. Three of those players are FCS transfer quarterbacks. I think Holy Cross transfer Matthew Sluka will probably win the job, but the loss of Jayden Maiava was a huge hit to this program. They also lost a number of starters on the defensive side of the ball and were hit really hard in the secondary.

Sure losing our starting QB and second team all MW QB is tough on paper. I can see why superficially that looks like a huge loss, and honestly it could be. But mentioning the secondary as a negative? Sure we lost a lot, but did they see who we have coming in? Many of those departures left because they were recruited over. Brushing off the number 1 transfer class rating as quantity over quality is very lazy. Sure not everyone is going to come in and start in this transfer class, but many are upgrades over what we have now, and would have been upgrades over what we had last season.

Top 25 G5 vs P4 Upset Alerts

A certain team in scarlet and gray gets a couple mentions on this list. A couple notes regarding other MW teams: Note A) BYU-Wyoming: They mention how Provo is a tough place to play, yet the game is in Laramie (Go Pokes!) and, Note B) BSU at Oregon isn't mentioned, yet in the separate B1G vs P4 write-up, it gives the Broncos a 'warm' upset chance, which I think is better than Hawaii's chances vs UCLA.

College Football News

I'm on the Lobos basketball forum and the discussion comes up.

Who is the better PG. Dedan Thomas Jr. or Donovan Dent of New Mexico is in the MW?

So, I make my case over there for Dedan and his credentials are so much better than Dent in HS.
Plus, Dedan should be a true freshman in college now.
Of, course ALL the Lobo posters think, Donovan Dent is the better PG than DT is.
I do like Donovan Dent as a PG. Just, think DT has a much higher ceiling.
What are you guys thoughts, on who the better PG is?
Or, is it even a question?

Updates on Pac-2

Below is a copy and paste from Jon Wilner. Great info for the Pac-2, that Rose Bowl payout was unknown by most of us.

Let's get the reverse merger going. FY '26? The MW won't suffer, you can only be in as good or better of a spot. So the Pac-2 shouldn't have to pay anymore through the nose to get y'all. And the Pac-2 has $30M of BB money out there, which we get only is our conference exists in 2 years. Lots of wins out there.

Tallying cash available to Washington State, Oregon State for rebuilding Pac-12​

Jon WilnerMarch 30, 2024 at 2:40 pm
The process required eight months, a lawsuit, a negotiated settlement, clarity from the College Football Playoff, readings and re-readings of the Rose Bowl contract, an entire basketball season and multiple rounds of the NCAA Tournament. But finally, we have clarity on the cash.

It’s time to calculate the pot ‘o gold waiting for Washington State and Oregon State.

Once the other 10 schools depart the Pac-12 this summer, the Cougars and Beavers will have sole access to the conference’s assets and revenue.

They have time to plot a course of action, but not an unlimited amount.

the latest from jon wilner​

NCAA rules provide a two-year grace period for conferences gutted by realignment. Once the summer of 2026 arrives, the Pac-12 must have at least eight schools. Otherwise, WSU and OSU must join another conference.

Based on four key revenue streams, the Cougars and Beavers seemingly have enough cash to create strategic flexibility, maintain athletic operations at a reasonable level and attempt to lure other schools into a rebuilt conference.

How much cash?

With the Pac-12 eliminated from the men’s NCAA tournament, we can tally the revenue and assets available during the 2025 and 2026 fiscal years — the crucial 24-month period in which WSU and OSU will be alone in open water.

The revenue due to the conference prior to that period (i.e., this spring) must be shared with the outbound schools, which officially depart at the close of business on Aug. 1, according to the negotiated settlement.

The four primary revenue buckets for the Cougars and Beavers are:

— Conference distributions withheld from the outgoing schools

— College Football Playoff payments

— The Rose Bowl contract

— NCAA Tournament unit distributions

Let’s take them one at a time.

Conference distributions withheld​

Earlier this week, WSU and OSU finalized the negotiated settlement with the 10 outbound universities. Section 2 addresses conference revenue generated in the 2023-24 competition year.

Each of the departing schools will have $5 million withheld in the following timetable:

“The $5,000,000 per Departing Member amount will be withheld on the following schedule: one million dollars ($1,000,000) from each Departing Member’s first Fiscal Year 2024 Distribution; two million dollars ($2,000,000) from each Departing Member’s April Fiscal Year 2024 Distribution; and two million dollars ($2,000,000) from each Departing Member’s June Fiscal Year 2024 Distribution.”

Additionally, each outbound school is responsible for a $1.5 million “supplement contribution” to the conference.

The amount can be withheld from the 2024 distributions this spring or repaid to the conference by Dec. 31. If that deadline isn’t met, then (per the settlement): “The Conference shall be entitled to a binding and enforceable order from the Special Master.”

The math: $6.5 million withheld from 10 schools is $65 million for WSU and OSU.

College Football Playoff payments​

Because of the NCAA’s grace period, the Cougars and Beavers are eligible for their full share of the CFP revenue per the terms of the contract signed a decade ago, when the four-team event was created.

That 12-year contract runs through the 2024 and 2025 seasons. While WSU and OSU will be treated as at-large teams with regard to their access to the playoff, they remain full-share Power Five members — just like the 10 outbound schools.

A full share is roughly $6 million per year.

The math: $6 million for each school for two years is $24 million.

Rose Bowl revenue​

In addition to the CFP payments, the Cougars and Beavers have sole access to the terms of the Rose Bowl’s agreement with the Pac-12, its longtime partner. That deal remains in place for the next two seasons, to coincide with the CFP’s contract cycle.

And it’s a whopper: The Pac-12 receives approximately $50 million annually as part of the agreement with the Granddaddy.

The math: $50 million for two years is $100 million.

NCAA Tournament revenue​

This is the most complicated piece of the cash calculation, with the amount of revenue based on tournament success over a rolling timeframe.

In simplest terms, the process works as follows:

Each game played is worth one unit. Each unit carries a six-figure dollar value paid to the team’s conference over six years, beginning the following spring.

So the money due to the Pac-12 this spring from the NCAA Tournament is based on the units accumulated by all the member schools from 2018-23. And it will be shared by all the schools, since the payment period falls within the 2024 fiscal year.


But the cash headed to the Pac-12 in the spring of 2025, based on units accumulated in the 2019-24 tournaments, is available only to WSU and OSU. The outbound members won’t take their units with them to their new leagues.

How much? The Pac-12 accumulated the following units:

2019: 7
2020: 0 (no tournament played/no units allocated)
2021: 19
2022: 7
2023: 7
2024: 10

That’s 50 units to be paid next spring, when each unit will carry a value of $350,000 (approximately).

In the spring of 2026, the Pac-12 will be paid for 43 units at $360,000 per unit (approximately).

(WSU and OSU will compete as affiliate members of the West Coast Conference for the next two seasons. The revenue from any NCAA units earned would go solely to the permanent WCC schools, according to the contract.)

The math: 50 units at $350,000 each in the spring of 2025 is $17.5 million, and 43 units at $360,000 each in the spring of 2026 is $15.5 million — for a two-year total of $33 million.

If the Pac-12 exists beyond the summer of 2026, the conference would continue to collect the NCAA units earned to this point through the end of the six-year payout cycle.

But that amount — approximately $30 million — would be distributed from the spring of 2027 through the spring of 2030.

In other words, it would not be available to WSU and OSU during the two-year NCAA grace period, as they stay afloat and work to rebuild the conference.

That said, the ‘Pac-2’ schools have a substantial amount of cash available from their four primary revenue streams.

Conference withholdings: $65 million
CFP payouts: $24 million (approx.)
Rose Bowl: $100 million (approx.)
NCAA units: $33 million

The grand total during the critical 24-month window: roughly $222 million.

It guarantees them nothing, except a fighting chance.

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