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It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

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LocoRebel said:
Oh really? So 2-6 combined record with only FCS wins are quality?

Good for UNLV? Absolutely. Not the same as Oregon.

Edit: looks like rice was the Houston win.

Rice also got blown out by something called Sam Houston State
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Yea two P4 wins beats a P4 loss with no P4 wins 100% of the time.
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Masked_rebel said:
Did you watch Friday night on the CW? Hows that any better...

As for the Idaho, Weber St. Sac St suggestion- no thanks. There's no market value there, they aren't ready for G5 level, and no one is tuning in to watch Weber St... at least Montana would draw eyes within the state of Montana and have facilities that could be G5 level, especially a full stadium every Saturday.
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I just don't think the Montana schools would be willing to leave Big Sky for an exceptionally unstable MWC without its top 4.

I broadly agree, it's not desirable. But nobody remaining is. There are no other "preferred" viable options, at least as I see them.
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InZoneU said:
Probably in the minority but I think UNM is valuable and has tons of upside.
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Basketball will always be solid.

Football I don't know. That's a really tough job. Even with the portal.

The Glory years of Rocky Long they went .500 overall.

Sparsely populated State. Hard to keep what top level talent there is home.

A lot like UNLV before, never shown any real interest in investing in football. It's why Long left.

I think Bronco was a good hire for them. But you can only do so much.

I could see them over Wyoming and possibly over Reno if PAC dips into MWC again.
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Meister_Rebel said:
I'd have to go UNM. Sure their football has sucked but, they did make and investment in bringing in Bronco Mendenhall as their coach this year. He may be able to get things going. Their basketball is good and as a revenue sport they will bring in some money. Future revenue sport of Women's basketball they are good there as well. With the women's basketball WSU is the only one right now that is worth anything. CSU has potential. The other three suck.

By the way your former women's volleyball assistant coach now head coach at reno has already won as many games this season as reno's old coach did in all of last year. You guys let a good one get away.
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AFA needs to join the AAC. It makes too much sense at this point.

They'd be my first choice otherwise. That being said, it would 100% be UNM. USU has shown more promise, but those fans are BYU².
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Masked_rebel said:
Did you watch Friday night on the CW? Hows that any better...

As for the Idaho, Weber St. Sac St suggestion- no thanks. There's no market value there, they aren't ready for G5 level, and no one is tuning in to watch Weber St... at least Montana would draw eyes within the state of Montana and have facilities that could be G5 level, especially a full stadium every Saturday.
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My point was the worse our conference affiliation is, the less exposure for the program.

So if you thought the CW was bad imagine what the MWC will have to cobble together next time around.

Yeah I go back and forth on what would be the best move in terms of additions.

Figure we'll likely need 5 if AFA leaves...

I could see an argument for going Texas State, Utep, Sam Houston State, NMSU, and then maybe Sac State?

Maybe say screw it Sac State, Plus both Dakota and Montana schools?

I really don't know...

And I'm really hoping we don't have to find out.
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Meister_Rebel said:
I'd have to go UNM. Sure their football has sucked but, they did make and investment in bringing in Bronco Mendenhall as their coach this year. He may be able to get things going. Their basketball is good and as a revenue sport they will bring in some money. Future revenue sport of Women's basketball they are good there as well. With the women's basketball WSU is the only one right now that is worth anything. CSU has potential. The other three suck.

By the way your former women's volleyball assistant coach now head coach at reno has already won as many games this season as reno's old coach did in all of last year. You guys let a good one get away.
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Probably in the minority but I think UNM is valuable and has tons of upside. Snake is a national treasure.
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Sad thing...

Any combo we put together...

Is pretty unappealing.

Catch all your UNLV football action this year On ESPN 9...Or your Uncle Lou's house. Sometimes if he positions the rabbit ears just right and stands on one leg while holding a skillet he can get the game.
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Did you watch Friday night on the CW? Hows that any better...

As for the Idaho, Weber St. Sac St suggestion- no thanks. There's no market value there, they aren't ready for G5 level, and no one is tuning in to watch Weber St... at least Montana would draw eyes within the state of Montana and have facilities that could be G5 level, especially a full stadium every Saturday.
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James Madison - group of 5 competition?

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dcut03 said:
I think they will have to make it as an at large that 12th spot is for thr 5th highest rated conference champion. The PAC doesn't count as a conference this year. So they basically have to be at least top 11 in the playoff ranking, maybe higher depending on the other conference champions
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I know it has nothing to do with them, but from what I understand the 4 highest ranked conference champions get the first four spots. While not likely, it would be possible for the MWC to have one of the 4 highest spots, or does that exclude the group of 5 conferences?
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Loyal Coug1 said:
Who do YOU guys want to have join you?
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I'd have to go UNM. Sure their football has sucked but, they did make and investment in bringing in Bronco Mendenhall as their coach this year. He may be able to get things going. Their basketball is good and as a revenue sport they will bring in some money. Future revenue sport of Women's basketball they are good there as well. With the women's basketball WSU is the only one right now that is worth anything. CSU has potential. The other three suck.

By the way your former women's volleyball assistant coach now head coach at reno has already won as many games this season as reno's old coach did in all of last year. You guys let a good one get away.
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LocoRebel said:
If I'm rebuilding the MWC with the assumption that AFA is out, and otherwise it's intact:

Sac State
Idaho
Weber State

With all three, you'd need some assurance that they'd invest a certain dollar amount and/or percentage of revenue from conference into direct upgrades. Sac State and Idaho are the two obvious ones to me. I don't know if you could get the Montana or Dakota schools (any of the 6) without something in a contract about "what happens if everyone leaves us" and you (MWC) would probably have to cover the $5mil fee to move up to FBS.

I think you'd have to go after NMSU and UTEP just to grab the only 2 teams you have a shot at. I don't know if UTSA or Texas State would leave the American or Sun Belt respective. Likely no.

North Texas is extremely unappealing to me.
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Sad thing...

Any combo we put together...

Is pretty unappealing.

Catch all your UNLV football action this year On ESPN 9...Or your Uncle Lou's house. Sometimes if he positions the rabbit ears just right and stands on one leg while holding a skillet he can get the game.
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Loyal Coug1 said:
Who do YOU guys want to have join you?
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If UNLV got to determine who were to theoretically join the Pac 12 with them as 7 and 8?

If only one, I'd want it to be geographic. No need for a geographic outlier all alone. Probably USU. I don't hate Sac State being given the chance, but would need some kind of assurance to upgrade facilities (as they have publicly stated they intend to do) both hoops and football. Only been to Hornet Stadium once, and it was when the UFL CA Mountain Lions (they might have been the Redwoods at the time?) played the Locos. Definitely need something better, probably would need something better even for a MWC light invite.

But ideally if UNLV was one of four, I'd want UTSA, Texas State, and one of either Memphis or Tulane. Fall back plan to USU or Sac State.
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
That's the rub isn't it..

Do you go heavy on Texas schools?

Take the top of CUSA?

Grab both Dakota's and Montana's?

Realistic options aren't great to be honest.
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If I'm rebuilding the MWC with the assumption that AFA is out, and otherwise it's intact:

Sac State
Idaho
Weber State

With all three, you'd need some assurance that they'd invest a certain dollar amount and/or percentage of revenue from conference into direct upgrades. Sac State and Idaho are the two obvious ones to me. I don't know if you could get the Montana or Dakota schools (any of the 6) without something in a contract about "what happens if everyone leaves us" and you (MWC) would probably have to cover the $5mil fee to move up to FBS.

I think you'd have to go after NMSU and UTEP just to grab the only 2 teams you have a shot at. I don't know if UTSA or Texas State would leave the American or Sun Belt respective. Likely no.

North Texas is extremely unappealing to me.
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InZoneU said:
Exactly. Schedule good OOC games, win those and run your conference. Conference means dyck. I don't think we were complaining about being in the PCC or BW when we were winning and I think winning games against Cal St. Fullerton didn't really matter in the long run.
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Then why do teams leave conferences?

If you are scheduling 'up' you absolutely have to win them.

Because an in conference loss kills you in the rankings if you are playing in the Sunbelt or the equivalent of CUSA.

Better conference competition allows for some wiggle room.

Basketball and football aren't comparable.

You're bringing up a by gone era of college Basketball.

If the PAC12 had offered UNLV an invite in the 90s, UNLV would absolutely have told Cal Fulerton and the rest peace out boys.
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It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

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bcvegaspt2 said:
Sam Houston State happens to have the best football team of all the schools with “Sam Houston” in their name, so there’s that.
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Probably the best team with Houston in its name.

Houston, Sam Houston, Houston Christian (formerly Houston Baptist)... is there a Houston State?

Also: this was a great response, so thanks for that 🤣
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It doesn’t mean UNLV isn’t real, but 3-0 UNLV won against teams that are 2-9

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LocoRebel said:
Oh really? So 2-6 combined record with only FCS wins are quality?

Good for UNLV? Absolutely. Not the same as Oregon.

Edit: looks like rice was the Houston win.

Rice also got blown out by something called Sam Houston State
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Sam Houston State happens to have the best football team of all the schools with “Sam Houston” in their name, so there’s that.
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