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Win games... if UNLV returns to the top 25 regularly and wins home games near perfection, it will be full again. That's really all it takes. You add 3k plus in students with 10k paying ticket holders and you'd find more full arena than empty evem with terrible opponents. It's fun to win, it sucks to watch uninspired and nail biting play vs bad teams.. Just win
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A offer to who??

WarthogRebel
Masked_rebel said:
Because they're all owned by like 3 corporations with boards who have 0 connection to UNLV... what's the financial incentive to a corporation to "donate" to UNLV athletics. UNLVs long term future is in local interest and investment in its programs, not selling half a stadium to away fans. There's what 3 million people in Vegas now? We need 40-45 thousand of them to regularly invest in UNLV much more than a corporation and visitors. If 5% of the valley cared about UNLV athletics regularly that would sell out the Mack and Allegiant regularly...
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"We need 40-45 thousand of them to regularly invest in UNLV"

This is the way Houtson has structured much of it's NIL payments.
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A offer to who??

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UNLVINMD said:
Why can't 20 casinos give 1 million each! This should not be that hard in vegas!
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Because they're all owned by like 3 corporations with boards who have 0 connection to UNLV... what's the financial incentive to a corporation to "donate" to UNLV athletics. UNLVs long term future is in local interest and investment in its programs, not selling half a stadium to away fans. There's what 3 million people in Vegas now? We need 40-45 thousand of them to regularly invest in UNLV much more than a corporation and visitors. If 5% of the valley cared about UNLV athletics regularly that would sell out the Mack and Allegiant regularly...
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News Lady Rebs

WarthogRebel
WYNN or Dye said:
This is what I know, I could be wrong but my theory on why 5 players transferred out of UNLV is.

Our best player, Amarachi Kimpson wants to get paid and saw that her NIL money will be better at a P5 school.
I, thought she was loyal and happy at UNLV but being homesick and getting more money, just did it for her.
McKinna Brackens and Macy Spencer are also from the state of Texas.
They, are also homesick and Macy has already twitted, "see you in Texas".
Kenadee Winfrey and Elli Guiney, were not getting enough playing time. So, they decided to take their talents elsewhere.
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The money for players in women's BB will be in Revenue Sharing not NIL. Most P4 programs will have revenue sharing with women's BB to the tune of $ 400 K to $ 500 K. ( around $ 35 K per player ) IMO, we won't be near that.
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Arenas of FF schools

dcut03
I was hipefyl that recent NET changes would create an incentive to schedule true home and home again. That hasn't happened yet around the country.
Teams would rather play most of the their tougher OOC in tournaments and neutral sites.
Quality of home opponent may not happen, just because it isn't happening as much around the country. Home and homes woth the Memphis' and the Daytons of the world are realistically as good as we can probably do right now.
Hopefully if UNLV is a fixture in the top 75 then scheduling quality opponents would be easier being a quad 1 game for them. But we haven't seen that around the country yet.
Thise that complain about our home schedule should look at others first in our league and then around G5. Then even in the power leagues. There just aren't many big time home and homes anymore.
Fans need to understand that the quality home games probably won't happen like they used to
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WYNN or Dye
Rebel1986 said:
I am curious why so many players left her team at the end of this season?
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This is what I know, I could be wrong but my theory on why 5 players transferred out of UNLV is.

Our best player, Amarachi Kimpson wants to get paid and saw that her NIL money will be better at a P5 school.
I, thought she was loyal and happy at UNLV but being homesick and getting more money, just did it for her.
McKinna Brackens and Macy Spencer are also from the state of Texas.
They, are also homesick and Macy has already twitted, "see you in Texas".
Kenadee Winfrey and Elli Guiney, were not getting enough playing time. So, they decided to take their talents elsewhere.
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Revenue sharing G5 implications.

Rebel1986
WarthogRebel said:
There will be a shuffling of Basketball power rankings among G5 conferences and here's why.

Revenue sharing starts in 90 days. It allows teams to share up to $ 20 million in revenue with their players. P4 conference teams are almost unanimous in their declaration they will spend the entire $ 20 million from the get go. The teams have the $$ to do it. Rutgers has the lowest revenue of all the P4 teams and it is still $ 110 million. Most have committed to a 78% football, 18% men's basketball and 4% to the rest of the programs formula that will share $3.6 with their 13 basketball scholarship players.

So how does this affect Mid-Major basketball? Most mid major teams don't have near the revenue to share that a P4 team has. UNLV brings in between $ 48 Mill and $ 50 Mil. Wyoming brings in $ 43 Mil. Less than 1/2 the lowest revenue of the P4's.

To make things more interesting mid-majors are split into essentially two groups. Those with football and those without. THOSE WITHOUT FOOTBALL CAN GIVE NEARLY THEIR ENTIRE REVENUE SPLIT TO BASKETBALL.

Take USF as an example. Their entire '24 revenue was $ 28 million. Their men's and women's teams each generated nearly equal amounts. Let us say they share 1/4 of their revenue with players for a total of $ 7 million with each of their men's and women's BB teams getting $ 3.5 mil and $ 2.5 each with the rest going to their other sports. Magically, USF can now match P4 inputs and compete. If UNLV can also afford a 1/4 split then $ 9.5 mil goes to football, $ 1.5 men's BB, $ 500 to women's BB and $ 500 to all the rest on the sports. We will be woefully behind the P4 and NON football conferences.

America East, Atlantic Sun, Big East, Big West, Horizon, MAAC, MAC, Summit, WCC. These are the D1 conferences that don't have football. IMO, the Big East will be the winner with way more $$ per team available for BB. Seton Hall brings in the lowest amount of revenue for sports in the Big East at $ 34 million. Working the same % model as above they will have between $ 4 mil and $ 5 mil for men's BB. Villanova's revenue sits at $ 68 million. They are in a position to spend $ 9+ million on their men's players.

And all this is before NIL.
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The bigger question is where does the money come from when revenue in most schools doesn't even cover expenses?
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Rebel1986
WYNN or Dye said:
It's depressing, being a doormat to these P5's.
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That is why it is important to keep pushing the football team if UNLV wants any change to get in the Big12. If UNLV keeps improving, then they will have value to the Big12. The funny thing is byu, Utah, TCU all did everything at the right time, and here is UNLV coming in at the last minute making waves, and it is very possible we could end up in the same conference as those teams with better facilities than any of them have for the major sports!
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Arenas of FF schools

Rebel1986
dcut03 said:
I get the idea,but closing off the the top doesn't make as much sense as gor Allegiant.
The T&M shares amenities between the decks. At Allegiant it requires more staffing when the upper deck is open.
Closing off the top and raising prices seems backwards.
I think an official trade up program could work. Bring you upper deck ticket to the game and 30 min before tip you can trade your ticket for a lower bowl ticket officially. Something like that?
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That would just hurt sales. How do you think people feel when they find out they part far more for their tickets that those sitting next to them. What they could do is working on allowing people to by reduced food packages with seats UPSTAIRS, tie in events to different corporations to give their employees to games, etc..

The bottom line is that nothing will get better until they win games and schedule better teams at home! It will also help of the coach is much more involved with the public in selling the program to potential fans!
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Even the big boys have turmoil with boosters

Rebel1986
Boston Rebel 2 said:
I had Greg Anthony in Economics and I would see him relatively often in class. I had Hudson and Gilliam in a Geography class and literally saw them both twice the entire semester. First day and finals.
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Greg Anthony was one of those rare athletes who was also a very good student! His parents would have kicked his ass if he didn't also do well in his education
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Revenue sharing G5 implications.

WarthogRebel
There will be a shuffling of Basketball power rankings among G5 conferences and here's why.

Revenue sharing starts in 90 days. It allows teams to share up to $ 20 million in revenue with their players. P4 conference teams are almost unanimous in their declaration they will spend the entire $ 20 million from the get go. The teams have the $$ to do it. Rutgers has the lowest revenue of all the P4 teams and it is still $ 110 million. Most have committed to a 78% football, 18% men's basketball and 4% to the rest of the programs formula that will share $3.6 with their 13 basketball scholarship players.

So how does this affect Mid-Major basketball? Most mid major teams don't have near the revenue to share that a P4 team has. UNLV brings in between $ 48 Mill and $ 50 Mil. Wyoming brings in $ 43 Mil. Less than 1/2 the lowest revenue of the P4's.

To make things more interesting mid-majors are split into essentially two groups. Those with football and those without. THOSE WITHOUT FOOTBALL CAN GIVE NEARLY THEIR ENTIRE REVENUE SPLIT TO BASKETBALL.

Take USF as an example. Their entire '24 revenue was $ 28 million. Their men's and women's teams each generated nearly equal amounts. Let us say they share 1/4 of their revenue with players for a total of $ 7 million with each of their men's and women's BB teams getting $ 3.5 mil and $ 2.5 each with the rest going to their other sports. Magically, USF can now match P4 inputs and compete. If UNLV can also afford a 1/4 split then $ 9.5 mil goes to football, $ 1.5 men's BB, $ 500 to women's BB and $ 500 to all the rest on the sports. We will be woefully behind the P4 and NON football conferences.

America East, Atlantic Sun, Big East, Big West, Horizon, MAAC, MAC, Summit, WCC. These are the D1 conferences that don't have football. IMO, the Big East will be the winner with way more $$ per team available for BB. Seton Hall brings in the lowest amount of revenue for sports in the Big East at $ 34 million. Working the same % model as above they will have between $ 4 mil and $ 5 mil for men's BB. Villanova's revenue sits at $ 68 million. They are in a position to spend $ 9+ million on their men's players.

And all this is before NIL.
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