Historically, those media contracts are negotiated prior to them expiring, the B1G media rights expire after the 2029/30 season.

Now the language on leaving has been a little more specific once I found the data published beyond the paywall. It's 200 million to depart this year, and that number goes down by 15 million per year until AFTER the 2029/30 season where it drops to 75 million.

Now, there's nothing posted about them agreeing to leave the conference before then and exiting only when the the big drop off happens and the B1G including those new markets in their negotiations though I'm sure there's language in there to protect against that specifically. It looks like they're just protecting themselves from B1G expansion based on media contracts--the B1G obviously can afford to help them by giving them smaller shares for a few years as well or just outright--and there's some allure to the likes of Florida State, NC, and Clemson.

I'm really curious how this will end up affecting the bottom line for the MWC/PAC negotiations if at all--because this is the opposite of what we've seen so far for negotiating lower costs to get out of conference affiliation.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Possibly some.

But OSU/WSU will continue to play essentially a MWC schedule.

Anybody outside of Corvallis really excited to tune into USU vs OSU?
Or WSU vs Fresno?

This isn't a knock on anybody but reality is nobody in the G5 draws huge tv numbers in comparison to majority of Power conferences.

SDSU does mediocre TV numbers considering size of San Diego for example.

WSU/OSU did good TV numbers in the past because they were playing USC, UCLA, UW and Oregon, not Fresno, SDSU, USU and CSU.

Take USU for example. They are way way behind two schools in their own state (Utah and BYU).

Sure if I'm on the East coast I might stay up to watch Oregon vs Oregon State. Or WSU vs USC. Not sure I'm staying up till 11 at night to watch them play USU.

Probably going to sound like I'm crapping on the PAC but truth of it is, its the 'PAC' in name only. The new PAC didn't replace like for like. Just like MWC didn't replace Boise with UTEP or SDSU. This is a lesser version of the MWC. Boise's great but they aren't USC. USU isn't Utah. SDSU isn't UCLA etc etc.

It's the 'PAC' in name only.

It's like saying you saw AC/DC in concert. Sure the bands called AC/DC but all the original members are dead except the bassist.

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1. Colorado State — 386K
2. Boise State — 353K
3. Air Force — 326K
4. Utah State — 324K
5. Fresno State — 220K
6. San Diego State — 198K
7. Wyoming — 154K
8. Nevada — 116.4K
9. San Jose State — 53K
10. Hawaii — 43K
11. New Mexico — 17.5K

These are the numbers for 2022. This is from the medium site which has flawed numbers as we have established, but I do think most MW teams have a similar split on games on CBS vs Fox vs Streaming. Most teams play a tough road game against a power opponent as well. For some reason UNLV didn't even make this list
I picked 2022 because I think there is some recency bias. SDSU has had some historically down years the past few seasons, Utah State as well, a team that made a great hire I think most would agree.
I think San Diego has the "Southern California influence" which UNLV definitely shares since so much of our population has SoCal roots and sensibilities. Heavily front runner fans that show up late, want to be "seen", etc. Somehow Fresno is not as affected with this, since they still show up even during down years.

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Rebel1986 said:

Out of conference games will become even more important than ever!

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True. However, some of the bigger conference schools are already talking about not taking any big risks in the non-conference games. They don't want to risk a loss that will knock them out of the playoff consideration

It sounds like the big dropoff occurs the same year as the B1G contract is ready to be renewed around 2030. At that time it will only be around $70 million to exit. I realize that's a lot, but it's only 1-2 years of annual payout.

Tonight's game is nationally televised on FS1. UNLV @ Wyoming. A possible preview of the championship game.

Loyal Coug1 said:

That is so odd. I was not aware of that. But everybody else in Nevada pays SS, right? Is it just Higher Ed, or K-12 or all state employees or what? Sorry, I'm an accountant.

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Here is a snippet that mentions the Social Security Act of 1935 and mentioned amendments:

"The Social Security Act of 1935 excluded state and local government employees from Social Security coverage because of constitutional ambiguity over the federal government's authority to impose payroll taxes on public-sector employers and because these employees were already covered by DB pensions (Nuschler 2021). Beginning in the 1950s, a series of amendments were enacted that allowed state and local governments to enroll certain categories of employees in Social Security. By 1991, over 75 percent of them were covered by the program. Today, public-sector employees are permitted to remain outside of Social Security if their employer-provided retirement plans meet Internal Revenue Service Employment Tax Regulations, which require plan benefits to be sufficiently generous. To meet the generosity standard, a plan must provide members with an annual benefit for life that is at least equal in value to the annual PIA that members would have received had they participated in Social Security. The pensioner must be able to start benefits on or before reaching Social Security's FRA, which varies from 65 to 67 depending on the worker's year of birth."

From: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v82n3/v82n3p1.html

Rod_the_Rebel said:

Fire Kevin Kruger

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He did have a big hand in screwing up the season. But if they continue playing well and win mwc tourney, with Whaley out all year, that would sure be a case for him to be retained.

Fire Kevin Kruger

Rebel1986 said:

As far as I know Henderson, NLV, City of Las Vegas, and Clark County employees do not pay SS!

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Equally, can't collect it later in life.

I believe that's applicable to all state and local government entities in the state

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Rebel1986 said:

Agreed! I would love to keep our AD, but would rather get a less far left radical as President!

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I mean, academia naturally attracts more progressive leaning individuals apart from some scattered departments in the economic social sciences, and realistically if you look at University presidents I don't think most would consider Whitley 'far left' given the population you're comparing him to, though he's definitely left of the median Overton window of the average American. I'd like to get someone who is more competent regardless of their political leanings otherwise aren't we just playing a different version of the DEI game? Get the best person for the job who comes in and kicks ass and I don't care what their plumbing is, what their pronouns are, or who they voted for in the last election.

But maybe I'm a weirdo.

When I made my prediction, I didn't think that both Rish and Henley would shot 67% at high volume from 3. Evidence would also suggest that wasn't going to happen. I love being wrong and sweeping SDSU feels pretty nice though they clearly are not up to their usual standards of quality this season.

BornRebelRed said:

For the first time since 2012, the Rebels sweep the San Diego St Aztecs. So beautiful. I hate them. Our toughness beat them. And hitting shots. Way to go Rebs. A VERY satisfying win.

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That make is a triple header sweep of football and basketball! Dang them thar metrics aint working for sdsu!

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Rebel_Luv said:

That was the best played game of the year. Shot great, made some plays, good D and had some chemistry.

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The team is into it. Bench is cheering. Lots of support for each other.

That was the best played game of the year. Shot great, made some plays, good D and had some chemistry.

In last 1:12 we went 2 of 7 from the line. Would have lost it if Sdsu made some shots down the stretch. But great win for CKK and the team.

rebel5280 said:

It’s too bad he’s not better by now, he’s out of control most of the time!

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20% from three. The only time he should shoot a three is with 2 or less seconds left. He only shoots 53% from the foul line. He almost airballed the front end of a one-and-one tonight. On a really quality team he wouldn't play.

yana080 said:

The Beavers played a MWC schedule last year.

I think the question is will the Rebels and new MWC teams viewership decline because they aren’t playing Boise State, Oregon State, and Washington State,

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Possibly some.

But OSU/WSU will continue to play essentially a MWC schedule.

Anybody outside of Corvallis really excited to tune into USU vs OSU?
Or WSU vs Fresno?

This isn't a knock on anybody but reality is nobody in the G5 draws huge tv numbers in comparison to majority of Power conferences.

SDSU does mediocre TV numbers considering size of San Diego for example.

WSU/OSU did good TV numbers in the past because they were playing USC, UCLA, UW and Oregon, not Fresno, SDSU, USU and CSU.

Take USU for example. They are way way behind two schools in their own state (Utah and BYU).

Sure if I'm on the East coast I might stay up to watch Oregon vs Oregon State. Or WSU vs USC. Not sure I'm staying up till 11 at night to watch them play USU.

Probably going to sound like I'm crapping on the PAC but truth of it is, its the 'PAC' in name only. The new PAC didn't replace like for like. Just like MWC didn't replace Boise with UTEP or SDSU. This is a lesser version of the MWC. Boise's great but they aren't USC. USU isn't Utah. SDSU isn't UCLA etc etc.

It's the 'PAC' in name only.

It's like saying you saw AC/DC in concert. Sure the bands called AC/DC but all the original members are dead except the bassist.

WarthogRebel said:

Hicks is active on defense but he’s a huge liability on offense. Missed 2 layups and 2 three pointers (one an air ball)

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It’s too bad he’s not better by now, he’s out of control most of the time!

Makes you wonder if the change in the way UNLV plays the game, or the fact that other teams are not ready for the changes now that UNLV is forced to play differently without Dedan Thomas in the game is why UNLV is on a winning streak?

Looks like Rishwain is having a great game! 26 points!