LVRebel2000 said:

That is a good article. It seems like Memphis would be most likely to stay and take their chances at getting into the Big 12 or ACC, but the big question is when that shake up is going to occur. It looked like the ACC was on the verge of melt down, but now it's not looking as bad as a few months ago. And Big 12 talked about continuing, but wanted to grab some of the prime ACC teams. So if they can't get ACC schools, do they stay put with what they have?

Or do they attempt to sabotage the plans of the new PAC and grab some or all of the Memphis/Tulane/UNLV group?

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InZoneU said:

1000%. Conference affiliation is passe. Why worry about getting into a conference that provides the same exact path to the big goal?

I guess it depends on whether one thinks the TV money from conference affiliation is more important than the success of the program.

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LVRebel2000 said:

yeah, I went in the Cougar Lair, and opened the "Lots of stuff- Ole miss, Tulane/Memphis, UNLV/AF" thread but it doesn't give me an option to reply.

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Meister_Rebel said:

Just navigate on this screen to the top right where it says colleges. Go down the drop down list to Pac-12. Then select Washington State from that next drop down list. WazzuWatch will now open on a new screen. Select Cougar Lair from the forum list. You should now be logged on with the same user name that you have on Rebel-Net.

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LVRebel2000 said:

yeah, I went in the Cougar Lair, and opened the "Lots of stuff- Ole miss, Tulane/Memphis, UNLV/AF" thread but it doesn't give me an option to reply.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

No, I used my same Rivals account. Did you go to the "Cougar Lair" board? Should be able to post no problem. I'm a premium member now, but was able to post there (and over here) before that as just a registered member. Maybe Meister can assist us.

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LVRebel2000 said:

Hey Coug, did you have to create a new rivals account to post on the Rebel page? I went over to the WS forum and was going to jump in on a conversation but it says I have insufficient privileges to reply.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

No, I used my same Rivals account. Did you go to the "Cougar Lair" board? Should be able to post no problem. I'm a premium member now, but was able to post there (and over here) before that as just a registered member. Maybe Meister can assist us.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

Ok. Confusing as hell. So the "Departure fee" is moot since the Pac/MW did not renew the scheduling agreement?

Termination fee, Departure fee, Withdrawal fee? Geezus. Gobbletygook, eh?

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LVRebel2000 said:

Hey Coug, did you have to create a new rivals account to post on the Rebel page? I went over to the WS forum and was going to jump in on a conversation but it says I have insufficient privileges to reply.

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LocoRebel said:

Not a LVS subscriber. Anybody able to quote this and drop it here?

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Loyal Coug1 said:

Ok. Confusing as hell. So the "Departure fee" is moot since the Pac/MW did not renew the scheduling agreement?

Termination fee, Departure fee, Withdrawal fee? Geezus. Gobbletygook, eh?

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Masked_rebel said:

No, but being a consistently ranked team does... we've never experienced what a ranked UNLV football team would do for attendance... year over year...
Closest we've come recently was basketball under Rice and the Mack still had pretty decent attendance even against mediocre teams back then...

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Meister_Rebel said:

It's just the poaching fee. What that paragraph also speaks of is a departure fee. That fee is not relevant. It would only apply if you, meaning the Pac-2, left during the Scheduling Agreement.

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oneepstein said:

Yeah, I think I misinterpreted the last portion of into meaning “departing PAC 12 members” as if the MW teams leaving were actually PAC members since they had accepted. My bad.

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reagan21 said:

Are these

Drop in his lap he didn't know the bal was coming. Still Ricky's fault. Quick slant on our 2nd drive in the red zone with his eyes firmly in the sun. That one where he cut off his route was odd to me. I'm guessing Ricky was expecting him to underthrow the ball. It wasn't a back shoulder throw. Bryant had fallen down too and the safety was really late. That was a TD if he continues the route.

It will get better. It has to with time. There is no way he puts up 1400 yards this season. I hope he does and we do face some more really bad defenses without pass rushes or secondary help. I hope we can get him to 1000 yards this season. He's still drafted next May. Too much talent not to be.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

That link (thanks BTW) is a bitch to try to read. But what do you mean by "both fees"? The poaching fee yes, 30 days. But not the exit fees. Those are not in the agreement. That's MW bylaws......

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Loyal Coug1 said:

That link (thanks BTW) is a bitch to try to read. But what do you mean by "both fees"? The poaching fee yes, 30 days. But not the exit fees. Those are not in the agreement. That's MW bylaws......

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LVRebel2000 said:

That is a good article. It seems like Memphis would be most likely to stay and take their chances at getting into the Big 12 or ACC, but the big question is when that shake up is going to occur. It looked like the ACC was on the verge of melt down, but now it's not looking as bad as a few months ago. And Big 12 talked about continuing, but wanted to grab some of the prime ACC teams. So if they can't get ACC schools, do they stay put with what they have?

Or do they attempt to sabotage the plans of the new PAC and grab some or all of the Memphis/Tulane/UNLV group?

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oneepstein said:

This is my point… and yes 30 days for both fees.


Agreement

Section 7.02 lays it out.

I’d post a screenshot but can’t seem to figure out how to do it on mobile.

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dcut03 said:

I don't know that it is true, but somewhere I saw that the initial poaching fee for the "traiterous four" could come as early as 1 month? Say that money is distributed evenly. That could at least be a down payment for UNLV's portion of the 17 mil exit fee. I can see that being a part of why UNLV has not been added if that is truly what the PAC wants?

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dcut03 said:

I don't know that it is true, but somewhere I saw that the initial poaching fee for the "traiterous four" could come as early as 1 month? Say that money is distributed evenly. That could at least be a down payment for UNLV's portion of the 17 mil exit fee. I can see that being a part of why UNLV has not been added if that is truly what the PAC wants?

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dcut03 said:

I don't know that it is true, but somewhere I saw that the initial poaching fee for the "traiterous four" could come as early as 1 month? Say that money is distributed evenly. That could at least be a down payment for UNLV's portion of the 17 mil exit fee. I can see that being a part of why UNLV has not been added if that is truly what the PAC wants?

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oneepstein said:

Ok, so the timeline is less of an issue for us… if it comes after the season is over even it doesn’t change any costs to join the PAC hypothetically.

The timeline IS an issue for any AAC members since they have to give 27 months notice or face a “negotiated buyout”… I’d imagine that any single school mentioned, much less two (Memphis and Tulane), is going to be in a strong negotiating position if their loss was essentially going to destroy the deal the AAC has with ESPN. Is the PAC going to “help” with fees that they don’t even know what they are yet?

Next, let’s say you’re the PAC and you’re already paying $43 mil in exit fees, plus “helping” the 4 teams you already poached… it doesn’t make sense to me that they’d be paying 100% because they’d absolutely want those 4 to “have skin in the game”… so at $17 mil per team that’s another $34 mil… now we’re up to $87 mil.

Add that to the $34 the 4 leaving are paying and you’re at $121 mil… I think… all of which becomes payable in a couple of weeks. I just read the agreement and I believe this to be the case so…

Now you’re the remaining MW members… I don’t know what portion of this Hawaii would be entitled to, but we know it’s only 7 who get a vote… ALL of them are going to want their share and I doubt they’re going to want to let it sit in The MW bank account very long. I’m not sure what the conference bylaws are for distribution but I’d imagine that they’d want to distribute at least 90% of it… that’s $108.7 million. Let’s say Hawaii gets a half share, that’s $14.5 mil each… even if Hawaii got a full share it’s $13.6 each.

For the time being let’s say that no viable candidates are found to join the remaining members, for which any of the members are willing to fork over any cash to help join… personally that makes no sense to me anyway. You can add any number of dregs who are willing to join you free of charge if you’re trying to band aid the MW back together… not to mention you’re still at 8 for the moment and don’t HAVE to add anyone just yet.

So now you’re a MW team sitting on roughly $14 million and the PAC says you’re welcome to join, but you have to pay your own exit fee and we’re gonna hold back the difference between what you had to pay and what the other teams had to pay to get in from the first year of our new TV contract from you.

The MW had a buy 4 and get everyone else half off sale and didn’t know it.

I’m sure there are holes but…

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Meister_Rebel said:

Good article:

Go West? The next wave of realignment is in Memphis' hands

The Pac-12’s resurgence — taking four Mountain West members — has left one school, it seems, with a decision that could completely reshape the Group of Five.

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