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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

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dcut03 said:
I don't know that it is true, but somewhere I saw that the initial poaching fee for the "traiterous four" could come as early as 1 month? Say that money is distributed evenly. That could at least be a down payment for UNLV's portion of the 17 mil exit fee. I can see that being a part of why UNLV has not been added if that is truly what the PAC wants?
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Yes. I posted that and the portion of the Scheduling Agreement that said they (Pac) has 30 days from when the individual schools gave notice. Even if it was just a public announcement they were leaving the clock started ticking on that day.
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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

oneepstein
dcut03 said:
I don't know that it is true, but somewhere I saw that the initial poaching fee for the "traiterous four" could come as early as 1 month? Say that money is distributed evenly. That could at least be a down payment for UNLV's portion of the 17 mil exit fee. I can see that being a part of why UNLV has not been added if that is truly what the PAC wants?
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This is my point… and yes 30 days for both fees.


Agreement

Section 7.02 lays it out.

I’d post a screenshot but can’t seem to figure out how to do it on mobile.
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LVRebel2000
dcut03 said:
I don't know that it is true, but somewhere I saw that the initial poaching fee for the "traiterous four" could come as early as 1 month? Say that money is distributed evenly. That could at least be a down payment for UNLV's portion of the 17 mil exit fee. I can see that being a part of why UNLV has not been added if that is truly what the PAC wants?
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yeah, that would be helpful, for sure.
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dcut03
oneepstein said:
Ok, so the timeline is less of an issue for us… if it comes after the season is over even it doesn’t change any costs to join the PAC hypothetically.

The timeline IS an issue for any AAC members since they have to give 27 months notice or face a “negotiated buyout”… I’d imagine that any single school mentioned, much less two (Memphis and Tulane), is going to be in a strong negotiating position if their loss was essentially going to destroy the deal the AAC has with ESPN. Is the PAC going to “help” with fees that they don’t even know what they are yet?

Next, let’s say you’re the PAC and you’re already paying $43 mil in exit fees, plus “helping” the 4 teams you already poached… it doesn’t make sense to me that they’d be paying 100% because they’d absolutely want those 4 to “have skin in the game”… so at $17 mil per team that’s another $34 mil… now we’re up to $87 mil.

Add that to the $34 the 4 leaving are paying and you’re at $121 mil… I think… all of which becomes payable in a couple of weeks. I just read the agreement and I believe this to be the case so…

Now you’re the remaining MW members… I don’t know what portion of this Hawaii would be entitled to, but we know it’s only 7 who get a vote… ALL of them are going to want their share and I doubt they’re going to want to let it sit in The MW bank account very long. I’m not sure what the conference bylaws are for distribution but I’d imagine that they’d want to distribute at least 90% of it… that’s $108.7 million. Let’s say Hawaii gets a half share, that’s $14.5 mil each… even if Hawaii got a full share it’s $13.6 each.

For the time being let’s say that no viable candidates are found to join the remaining members, for which any of the members are willing to fork over any cash to help join… personally that makes no sense to me anyway. You can add any number of dregs who are willing to join you free of charge if you’re trying to band aid the MW back together… not to mention you’re still at 8 for the moment and don’t HAVE to add anyone just yet.

So now you’re a MW team sitting on roughly $14 million and the PAC says you’re welcome to join, but you have to pay your own exit fee and we’re gonna hold back the difference between what you had to pay and what the other teams had to pay to get in from the first year of our new TV contract from you.

The MW had a buy 4 and get everyone else half off sale and didn’t know it.

I’m sure there are holes but…
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I don't know that it is true, but somewhere I saw that the initial poaching fee for the "traiterous four" could come as early as 1 month? Say that money is distributed evenly. That could at least be a down payment for UNLV's portion of the 17 mil exit fee. I can see that being a part of why UNLV has not been added if that is truly what the PAC wants?
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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Meister_Rebel said:
Good article:

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Go West? The next wave of realignment is in Memphis' hands

The Pac-12’s resurgence — taking four Mountain West members — has left one school, it seems, with a decision that could completely reshape the Group of Five.
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That is a good article. It seems like Memphis would be most likely to stay and take their chances at getting into the Big 12 or ACC, but the big question is when that shake up is going to occur. It looked like the ACC was on the verge of melt down, but now it's not looking as bad as a few months ago. And Big 12 talked about continuing, but wanted to grab some of the prime ACC teams. So if they can't get ACC schools, do they stay put with what they have?

Or do they attempt to sabotage the plans of the new PAC and grab some or all of the Memphis/Tulane/UNLV group?
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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

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If it was easy to do, they'd have announced the next 2-4 teams and finished it... the more I read and listen to the new Pac 2 commissioner, the more I get the sense that this wasn't as well thought out as we all assume. If truly was starting discussions in late July, there's no way they have a media deal, maybe just a few ballpark analysis of $$. Second, she tried her power play earlier with joining the MWC, giving them the Pac brand and letting the 2 schools keep their coffers... it didn't work. She wants to make that name for herself as the commissioner that saved the Pac 12 brand, so her last recourse was to find partners that drew some name recognition and would play ball. It's a power move, the agreement only worked because they offered to pay the sum of the 111 million in buyouts. If they add 2-4 AAC teams, I don't the next 2-4 would be happy to fork over 10+ million on their own. And then you talk about tiered payouts once a new Media deal is in place, why would you pay your own buyout and then accept less money than your conference mates... you know OSU and WSU aren't going to pay the 140-160 million dollars in fees out of their coffers without some tiered form of recouping that... it's a mess and sounds very ego driven by this commissioner and her 2 university counterparts once they couldn't get the MWC commissioner to play ball
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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

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Loyal Coug1 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the "2-year" notice is actually anything over 1 year. Think I read that on this board, or maybe on the WCS board.

Relative to WSU's 2025 schedule, it is a MAJOR problem IMHO. We have 6 games scheduled, with 3 at home. Most schools have their 2025 schedules filled. We are in a real pickle. Another reason for the Pac-2 to poach UNLV and one other MW school, stand pat at 8 for now, and focus on the 2025 schedule.
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Ok, so the timeline is less of an issue for us… if it comes after the season is over even it doesn’t change any costs to join the PAC hypothetically.

The timeline IS an issue for any AAC members since they have to give 27 months notice or face a “negotiated buyout”… I’d imagine that any single school mentioned, much less two (Memphis and Tulane), is going to be in a strong negotiating position if their loss was essentially going to destroy the deal the AAC has with ESPN. Is the PAC going to “help” with fees that they don’t even know what they are yet?

Next, let’s say you’re the PAC and you’re already paying $43 mil in exit fees, plus “helping” the 4 teams you already poached… it doesn’t make sense to me that they’d be paying 100% because they’d absolutely want those 4 to “have skin in the game”… so at $17 mil per team that’s another $34 mil… now we’re up to $87 mil.

Add that to the $34 the 4 leaving are paying and you’re at $121 mil… I think… all of which becomes payable in a couple of weeks. I just read the agreement and I believe this to be the case so…

Now you’re the remaining MW members… I don’t know what portion of this Hawaii would be entitled to, but we know it’s only 7 who get a vote… ALL of them are going to want their share and I doubt they’re going to want to let it sit in The MW bank account very long. I’m not sure what the conference bylaws are for distribution but I’d imagine that they’d want to distribute at least 90% of it… that’s $108.7 million. Let’s say Hawaii gets a half share, that’s $14.5 mil each… even if Hawaii got a full share it’s $13.6 each.

For the time being let’s say that no viable candidates are found to join the remaining members, for which any of the members are willing to fork over any cash to help join… personally that makes no sense to me anyway. You can add any number of dregs who are willing to join you free of charge if you’re trying to band aid the MW back together… not to mention you’re still at 8 for the moment and don’t HAVE to add anyone just yet.

So now you’re a MW team sitting on roughly $14 million and the PAC says you’re welcome to join, but you have to pay your own exit fee and we’re gonna hold back the difference between what you had to pay and what the other teams had to pay to get in from the first year of our new TV contract from you.

The MW had a buy 4 and get everyone else half off sale and didn’t know it.

I’m sure there are holes but…
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OT: OFF TOPIC Ricky White III

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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Ricky had an uncharacteristic drop on a potentially huge gain. There was another play he cut route off. Not sure if it was miscommunication with QB or not on an option route. No way bashing Ricky, he's our #1 weapon. But stuff happens.

DeJesus had a drop on sure TD as well early in game.

Sluka hasn't been great but not all on him either.

Odom referenced drops in postgame presser.

UNLV hasn't needed to pass in the 2nd half of two games.

KU has 2 CBs that are likely NFL draft picks.

Rebs have faced two of the better defenses they will see this season.

UH and KU both top 30.
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Drop in his lap and he didn't know the ball was coming. Still Ricky's fault. Quick slant on our 2nd drive in the red zone with his eyes firmly in the sun. That one where he cut off his route was odd to me. I'm guessing Ricky was expecting him to underthrow the ball. It wasn't a back shoulder throw. Bryant had fallen down too and the safety was really late. That was a TD if he continues the route.

It will get better. It has to with time. There is no way he puts up 1400 yards this season. I hope he does and we do face some more really bad defenses without pass rushes or secondary help. I hope we can get him to 1000 yards this season. He's still drafted next May. Too much talent not to be.

Jajajajaja is spanish. I have a macro in my phone to change "haha" to jajajajajajaja.
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OT: Hypocrisy in politics

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rebeltob said:
You would think that would be common sense although I really doubt they were let in “only” to increase a voting base, but I can’t find anything on policies, etc justifying letting so many in.
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Its the only reason. That is why they fly them in a drop them off in certain areas. To change Red to Blue. Give me a logical reason why they would do it. ANY reason other than to do that. We have very high inflation(LAST 4 YEARS COMPOUNDED), housing prices going thru the roof ,because of it, A TON MORE CRIME, putting communities financially in the RED. Come to this Country i am all for it ,but only if you are productive member to society! Not living off the backs of tax paying citizens and dont be a degenerate or/and a criminal , and assimilate to USA customs and beliefs dont bring your BS baggage and beliefs from a place you left.
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OT: Hypocrisy in politics

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rebeltob said:
It is ****ed. I hate it. I just want Trump to go away (retire and happily play golf and screw mistresses like Loomer in private) in hopes that it cools things down.
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Let Kamala run this Country?? LOL! She is a threat to everything that is American and will destroy capitalism and everything she touches. His mistress. Wow you have TDS written all over you.
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OT: Hypocrisy in politics

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WarthogRebel said:
I think he is so over-the-top he drives certain crazy people over the edge.
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Drives the KARENS ,WOKE and/or weak minded Liberals crazy. You have to be emotionally unstable to get offended by his rhetoric that you would literally vote for Kamala and what she brings and does not bring to the table. Yea F over America and America values ,because you are so easily offended. Make it make sense! Kamala is inept as CMM was! Plus is dumb as hell!
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