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Pac-12 Rebuild Update...
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I think the fertita’s want to go have an in conference booster rivalry with their cousin.
I don’t actually think this but that would be cool…
I don’t actually think this but that would be cool…
They don't join until 7/1/26. It will cost the Pac2 a lot of money to buyout the MWC defectors. You know what will happen between now and 7/1/26? The collapse of the ACC for one. A LOT is going to happen in the next year. Pac8 is a move of last resort for UNLV.
NCAAfb is about to get a tummy tuck, face lift, brow lift, liposuction, butt implants, calf implants. There is a huge push to leave the NCAA for a lot of schools. No reason to hitch our star to a wagon with 2.3 wheels unless we have to,
NCAAfb is about to get a tummy tuck, face lift, brow lift, liposuction, butt implants, calf implants. There is a huge push to leave the NCAA for a lot of schools. No reason to hitch our star to a wagon with 2.3 wheels unless we have to,
So hear this out...
Plan A- Big 12
Next plan- in new CFP format, any new MWC is still likely better than the Pac State conference. So we negotiate a deal in which we take a competitive/financial compensation as the crown jewel of the MWC like Boise had and the dominate the conference every year. The TV deal moves to a network like ESPN and avoids the irrelevant CW/TNT/Apple type packages. UNLV becomes a western power with a financial advantage and competitive advantage over its remaining peers...
In the best of the G5 argument, we schedule aggressively for OOC in football and then continue to build and run through conference every year, earning the playoff birth...
Again getting into the Big 12 would be best case, but if all of a sudden were offered a 1.5 or 2x $ deal to remain?
Plan A- Big 12
Next plan- in new CFP format, any new MWC is still likely better than the Pac State conference. So we negotiate a deal in which we take a competitive/financial compensation as the crown jewel of the MWC like Boise had and the dominate the conference every year. The TV deal moves to a network like ESPN and avoids the irrelevant CW/TNT/Apple type packages. UNLV becomes a western power with a financial advantage and competitive advantage over its remaining peers...
In the best of the G5 argument, we schedule aggressively for OOC in football and then continue to build and run through conference every year, earning the playoff birth...
Again getting into the Big 12 would be best case, but if all of a sudden were offered a 1.5 or 2x $ deal to remain?
We should not be surprised but I’m disappointed. I think the new PAC could be a good place for UNLV and eventually catch the Big 12.
None of the schools that have made conference changes have ever paid the full buyout price. The leftovers will be bending over backwards to take any buyout. This is beyond devastating for us if we do not in fact get invited to the newer conference. This is decades of neglect in the making though. The school is likely in full panic mode too. They know Odom is likely gone after this year and if we don’t strike while the iron is hot then we could legitimately fall back to the depths of hell we’ve been in since inception.
New Conference name should be "State Pac of Rejects" 🤡 ! Lol
I heard Nevada State formerly Nevada College wants in. 🤣
I heard Nevada State formerly Nevada College wants in. 🤣
So what is Harper saying?? I want facts! What is the plan?? Did we swing and miss? Did we lay down a bunt( 2 years invite PAC8) did we hit a Homer Run that has not been scored yet?? I need something?? The alure of the MWC what little it has is going to be almost completely gone in 2 years. 4 of the 6 best teams all gone. It going to be that much harder to sign players and keep fans intrigued. Montana State and NMSU are among schools that might join us?? NOT GOOD!!
Well the one thing we do have control over is a take no prisoners attitude to each game while curb stomping BSU and FSU. Make ourselves the undeniable playoff team and perform well. Then pray a decent conf wants us.
Short of that, this could be the one thing that stops the UNLV Football train in its tracks after this season. Just when we are finally making some noise. Could be devastating (and the past UNLV administrations have only themselves to blame).
Short of that, this could be the one thing that stops the UNLV Football train in its tracks after this season. Just when we are finally making some noise. Could be devastating (and the past UNLV administrations have only themselves to blame).
He definitely needs to have a press conference or release a statement addressing this.
the school from Reno isn’t holding up unlv at all in terms of moving to another conference.
You’ll have to ask the network that the Pac12 is working with. They chose markets and time zones.
This is very bad for the mountain west. We all saw what happened to the WAC.
The cash of it all is interesting. Those 4 schools each owe $17 million exit fees. Then thr pac 12 scheduling agreement with mwc indicates if pac 12 takes mwc members, it's appx $10.5 million per school.
Over $100 million to mwc if those numbers hold.
I hope not. They’re hurting themselves if they are. More money us means more money for them. If they are, it’s purely because of spite.
There’s nothing in the bylaws or rules that prevent unlv from leaving the MWC unless they take Reno.
Wouldn’t the board still have to approve the move? Maybe I’m just jaded. The board of regents did UNLV dirty for decades.
From what I understand SDSU turned down Big12 original offer. I want to say it had to do with the lower revenue/TV share they would receive.
If UNLV gets same offer you 100% take that offer.
Even if there was, what's the board of regents going to do?
State isn't going to waste money or resources on this in a court battle I don't believe.
I don’t know, there’s a lot of money involved in these things and everyone has their hand out. I think Cal sued UCLA for joining the BIG without them and they settled on a small amount. Nothing consequential.
The reason unlv was left out, was NOT because of Reno. It was because some network executive or media liaison for the PAC thought it would be better to start adding markets first. Boise isn’t a market but they have a brand, so that’s obvious.
One thing I can guarantee is that every school in the MWC has a representative on the horn talking with multiple conferences about what it would take to join. Air Force already has one foot out the door to join Army.
The media footprint in the MWC just shrunk massively. This is not good news for remaining members including unlv.
IMHO The Pac-2 is foolish if it doesn't offer UNLV. Such a no-brainer, so something went on to have that not happen. I see it turning around very soon now that the other shoes have dropped. At this point, if it were me I'd take UNLV and UNR, basically get the whole state despite Reno's relative lameness. SJSU is geographically and market-wise worth considering, but they are so meh. Maybe Wyoming. Yeah it is a small market, but it is the entire state.
Still in shock over the whole thing. Not how I would have played it. Also, I have seen it mentioned here and on the WCS board that the Pac-2 will pay the exit fees for your new traitors? Dunno where that comes from. I could see us chipping in, but beyond that.......?
It just seems so unstable. With the decline in linear media; none of these super conferences are sustainable. Streaming is incredibly expensive to upkeep.
I'm not overly concerned (yet.)
I don't think this thing is anywhere near completed.
I wrote letters to all of the Nevada Board of Regents from Southern Nevada asking them to address the yahoo article that alludes to them being the hurdle and holding back UNLV.
Only way to get separated from UNR is to start putting pressure on the regents. You can find their emails and contact information on this webiste. https://nshe.nevada.edu/regents/
sports.yahoo.com
Only way to get separated from UNR is to start putting pressure on the regents. You can find their emails and contact information on this webiste. https://nshe.nevada.edu/regents/
After latest realignment moves, which other schools will the Pac-12 try to scoop up?
The league wants to be known as the “best of the rest” outside of the power four leagues. So which other schools fit the bill? What kind of ripple effect will this all have on college sports?
sports.yahoo.com
Neveraz non-statement.
"The Mountain West Conference is aware of media reports regarding the potential departure of several of our members, and we will have more to say in the days ahead," Nevarez said. "All members will be held to the Conference bylaws and policies should they elect to depart. The requirements of the scheduling agreement will apply to the Pac-12 should they admit Mountain West members. Our Board of Directors is meeting to determine our next steps. The Mountain West has a proud 25-year history and will continue to thrive in the years ahead."
"The Mountain West Conference is aware of media reports regarding the potential departure of several of our members, and we will have more to say in the days ahead," Nevarez said. "All members will be held to the Conference bylaws and policies should they elect to depart. The requirements of the scheduling agreement will apply to the Pac-12 should they admit Mountain West members. Our Board of Directors is meeting to determine our next steps. The Mountain West has a proud 25-year history and will continue to thrive in the years ahead."
SDSU moved to a second rate football stadium and it has shown in how quickly the football program has dropped off. SDSU couldn't even use the leverage of second place in the NCAA tournament to move on. I am not worried about UNLV which is in a very good position and will not be left behind unless they want to be left out.
Agreed! If UNLV wants to be in the PAC2, then we will get into the PAC2, otherwise I have no doubt the current President and AD along with boosters are looking for the best option for UNLV moving forward. Winning at Kansas would be a huge push towards the future of UNLV athletics!
"Many around college athletics expressed surprise that UNLV was not included in the Pac-12’s initial phase of expansion. Located in a major city and with a football program on the way up, the potential is there.
However, politics are at play. According to those with knowledge of the discussions, separating the two — the University of Nevada and UNLV — is a hurdle. It doesn’t mean it cannot be done. And, perhaps at a later date, they could eventually move together to the Pac-12. Or the hurdle is crossed and UNLV moves alone?"
Yahoo Sports Article
The author doesn’t know what happened, all the article does is confuse the readers. There’s nothing preventing unlv from leaving on its own.
The only “hurdle” I can see is Reno lawyering up and being butthurt as Cal was when ucla left for the BIG. Fighting litigation AND exit fees may be too much money for unlv.
Right now it’s about keeping up or being totally left behind. Unlv will not be able to keep up in the MWC. There’s going to be another round of poaching and pretty soon the conference will be nothing but scraps.
I agree I would also add/ask would the state want to even waste resources if that scenario played out?
I don't know.
Not sure how true this is. I get the feeling the PAC-12 feels UNLV and/or UNR don't bring much to the table despite Vegas' TV market. If it is a package deal, I don't see it happening
If they dont believe Las Vegas doesnt bring anything to the table, they need their heads re-examined... Theres absolutely no way that there needs to be a package deal.. Remember, we left the WAC for the MWC before Reno did, why would it be any different. I dont buy it, I thinks its an easy cover for whats really happening behind the scenes and from folks in Reno who know they offer nothing...
One thing that I had seen a bit of discussion on, but no confirmation, is that the Pac 2 didn't want to poach the MWC down below 8 members, for fear of legal action. Bumping the MWC below 8 would basically make them not meet the 8 school requirement to be considered a conference. So it's possible that this could be a phased deal as well. Maybe Gloria goes out and grabs commitments from a couple more schools, which then frees up the PAC to come in and poach a couple more as well?
Who knows? I'm just shooting from the hip here, but it's at least possible. Or, it's possible that with so much of the MWC leaving, the TV partners throw a fit and opt out of the TV contracts, which may result in the MWC blowing up altogether.
Just speculating out loud here, I have no idea 😂
Who knows? I'm just shooting from the hip here, but it's at least possible. Or, it's possible that with so much of the MWC leaving, the TV partners throw a fit and opt out of the TV contracts, which may result in the MWC blowing up altogether.
Just speculating out loud here, I have no idea 😂
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