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Assuming Hawaii gets done..Then what?

I know this guy is a PAC 12 mouthpiece, but Cofield did an interview with John Canzano, who doesn't think that the agreements that UNLV and AF signed (as well as the other schools), would hold up if schools really wanted to leave. He's hinting at the PAC and MW working through this mediation, while the PAC gets the final numbers for the media deal, and the UNLV could still be in the works, if they desire to join the PAC.

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Looks like rule passed for direct payment from schools. And capped at 15 scholarships

Going to need a lawyer steeped in this issue for explanations. Says there is a hard $ 20.5 million cap for payments INCLUDING NIL but fails to explain how that can work. Doesn't explain how title 9 will work for equal payments to female athletes. No final approval till reviewed by a judge sometime this summer. Many other questions. AD's heads have to be exploding. NIL agents have to be wetting themselves and regretting their Lambo payments.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports...poses-new-rules-allow-direct-payments-players
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Facilities played a large role in Mullins decision.....

Like him or hate him, Sanford was right. I might not have agreed with his delivery, but he was 1000% right.
I was getting my worthless degree the 2nd time around when he was head coach. I was walking my dogs on my mountain bike going around the campus and I waved at the guy and overtook him wearing my Ichinutz Seattle JerseyWhile he was strolling on campus.

I didn’t necessarily hate him but was hoping he’d bring that gimmick offense with him that Urban invented.. I forgot what it’s called. Instead we got a ton of zone reads from Omar Clayton.

Tell you what the Ames Stumble was freakin’ GREAT!!

F’n hate those cornbread Jeds

Assuming Hawaii gets done..Then what?

Lets play around with a large language model that I have been developing to figure out what is the total cost of UNLV to leave the mountain west. Everything represented in the graph is coming from my program.

I am including a 3% inflation rate into these models as a baseline. If I knew what the actual inflation rate would be, I would be a wizard and I wouldn't be wasting my time on this scenario. I would have already just given UNLV the money to exit.

So lets start with our baseline cost to leave.
ComponentAmount (in Millions USD)
Exit Fee$17.0
Poaching Distribution Loss (24.5%)$12.0
Annual Loyalty Guarantee Loss (7 years * avg. $1.65M)$11.55
Total Cost to Leave$40.55M

From there lets do a projection assuming the mountain west is getting 4.5m per school, and the Pac is getting 8m.
YearMWC Payout (Adj.)Pac-12 Payout (Adj.)MWC CumulativePac-12 CumulativeNet Gain/Loss vs MWCNet Gain/Loss vs $40.55M Cost
2026$4.50$8.00$4.50$8.00$3.50- $32.55
2027$4.64$8.24$9.14$16.24$7.10- $24.31
2028$4.77$8.49$13.91$24.73$10.82- $15.82
2029$4.92$8.74$18.83$33.47$14.64- $7.08
2030$5.06$9.00$23.89$42.47$18.58$1.92
2031$5.22$9.27$29.11$51.75$22.64$11.20
2032$5.37$9.55$34.48$61.30$26.82$20.75
Break even point is around 2030 in this scenario, or just before projected conference realignment

Now lets assume we can negotiate exit fees down to 30.5m and run the projections again.
YearMWC (Adj.)Pac-12 (Adj.)MWC CumulativePac-12 CumulativePac-12 Net Gain/Loss
2026$4.50$8.00$4.50$8.00-$22.50
2027$4.64$8.24$9.14$16.24-$14.26
2028$4.77$8.49$13.91$24.73-$5.77
2029$4.92$8.74$18.83$33.47$2.97
2030$5.06$9.00$23.89$42.47$11.97
2031$5.22$9.27$29.11$51.75$21.25
2032$5.37$9.55$34.48$61.30$30.80
Here is better, we break even about a year earlier in 2029.

Things to remember:
1. We would be floating interest on exit fees and debt we are already carrying.

-That would shift the 17m for exit fees to 22m based on a 4.5% interest rate over 6 years (The exact term of time we would have to pay off the exit fee as it incurs interest). YES this could go down if we are successful in negotiation.

-In addition the 25m or so that we are floating in debt would grow by 6m to 7.5m (if we account the time it would take to reach a break even point)

2. These are projected "estimates" that do not include ramp up schedules to payments that are common in media deals. I have no way to calculate that, so I used raw "median" values. That would take our break even times and move them to the right to about 2031-2032 in both scenarios.

3. This assumes that the pac deal runs to 2032 and is not more short term. I used that timeline because it is projected that the next round of power realignment could happen in 2031-2032 if not sooner.
So, if we are betting on ourselves by staying in the MWC and then going into a P5 conference then we need to do it before 2030 or 2029 depending on the chart. After that we start losing money by being in the MWC. Does that sound right in saying that using your charts?

Assuming Hawaii gets done..Then what?

When does the Pac deal need to be completed in order for them to be a viable conference after this upcoming year? Is there a deadline for any of this?
In terms of when they need a media deal beyond next year for 2026, the sooner the better. But there is no pressing need at the moment beyond it being a staging point of negotiating in acquiring another school.

In terms of what they need to be considered a conference, they need that last football member to be there by June of 2026.

Ricky White possible draft position

Would you trade out of the first add a couple draft picks and take a flyer on Milroe in the second? Im not high on that dude at all. I'd have rather kept Fields.
I still think the Syracuse QB (McCord) will become the Drew Brees of this draft.
I'd take him with a second or third round pick and pass on the problem child.

Cunningham Commitment

We need another primary ball handler for sure, and probably another front court player--especially someone that's a monster rebounder. Bonus points if they can shoot from 3, though I think anyone with those skill son their CV is making more money than we have to throw at them.
A proven monster rebounder + 3 point shooter?

As you said. You’re declaring for the NBA draft if that description fits any player.
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Ricky White possible draft position

If Sanders drops I think we jump on it. Not sure it's the right move but you have to take a shot. I'd take that over ARod. Probably over Cousins--especially if I have to pay draft capital on it.

Surprise pick that I can see happening is Nick Emmanwori. Big underclassmen from a P4 with multiple starting years and crazy athleticism who was a top thirty visit.

My ideal would be for is to trade back as we have a lot of holes. But I think we'll go best available by fit for DB/QB/DL with my guy saying DL.

Would you trade out of the first add a couple draft picks and take a flyer on Milroe in the second? Im not high on that dude at all. I'd have rather kept Fields.
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Assuming Hawaii gets done..Then what?

Lets play around with a large language model that I have been developing to figure out what is the total cost of UNLV to leave the mountain west. Everything represented in the graph is coming from my program.

I am including a 3% inflation rate into these models as a baseline. If I knew what the actual inflation rate would be, I would be a wizard and I wouldn't be wasting my time on this scenario. I would have already just given UNLV the money to exit.

So lets start with our baseline cost to leave.
ComponentAmount (in Millions USD)
Exit Fee$17.0
Poaching Distribution Loss (24.5%)$12.0
Annual Loyalty Guarantee Loss (7 years * avg. $1.65M)$11.55
Total Cost to Leave$40.55M

From there lets do a projection assuming the mountain west is getting 4.5m per school, and the Pac is getting 8m.
YearMWC Payout (Adj.)Pac-12 Payout (Adj.)MWC CumulativePac-12 CumulativeNet Gain/Loss vs MWCNet Gain/Loss vs $40.55M Cost
2026$4.50$8.00$4.50$8.00$3.50- $32.55
2027$4.64$8.24$9.14$16.24$7.10- $24.31
2028$4.77$8.49$13.91$24.73$10.82- $15.82
2029$4.92$8.74$18.83$33.47$14.64- $7.08
2030$5.06$9.00$23.89$42.47$18.58$1.92
2031$5.22$9.27$29.11$51.75$22.64$11.20
2032$5.37$9.55$34.48$61.30$26.82$20.75
Break even point is around 2030 in this scenario, or just before projected conference realignment

Now lets assume we can negotiate exit fees down to 30.5m and run the projections again.
YearMWC (Adj.)Pac-12 (Adj.)MWC CumulativePac-12 CumulativePac-12 Net Gain/Loss
2026$4.50$8.00$4.50$8.00-$22.50
2027$4.64$8.24$9.14$16.24-$14.26
2028$4.77$8.49$13.91$24.73-$5.77
2029$4.92$8.74$18.83$33.47$2.97
2030$5.06$9.00$23.89$42.47$11.97
2031$5.22$9.27$29.11$51.75$21.25
2032$5.37$9.55$34.48$61.30$30.80
Here is better, we break even about a year earlier in 2029.

Things to remember:
1. We would be floating interest on exit fees and debt we are already carrying.

-That would shift the 17m for exit fees to 22m based on a 4.5% interest rate over 6 years (The exact term of time we would have to pay off the exit fee as it incurs interest). YES this could go down if we are successful in negotiation.

-In addition the 25m or so that we are floating in debt would grow by 6m to 7.5m (if we account the time it would take to reach a break even point)

2. These are projected "estimates" that do not include ramp up schedules to payments that are common in media deals. I have no way to calculate that, so I used raw "median" values. That would take our break even times and move them to the right to about 2031-2032 in both scenarios.

3. This assumes that the pac deal runs to 2032 and is not more short term. I used that timeline because it is projected that the next round of power realignment could happen in 2031-2032 if not sooner.

Ricky White possible draft position

Totally agree. It was more joking around than serious prediction.

Although the Steelers have had a lot of success getting quality WRs in the middle rounds.

What they do at 21 will be extremely interesting. If Shedur drops would they take him?

RB draft is deep this year.
If Sanders drops I think we jump on it. Not sure it's the right move but you have to take a shot. I'd take that over ARod. Probably over Cousins--especially if I have to pay draft capital on it.

Surprise pick that I can see happening is Nick Emmanwori. Big underclassmen from a P4 with multiple starting years and crazy athleticism who was a top thirty visit.

My ideal would be for is to trade back as we have a lot of holes. But I think we'll go best available by fit for DB/QB/DL with my guy saying DL.

Assuming Hawaii gets done..Then what?

That's the thing, the up front cost could be marginal or a net zero.

Again the going rate for exit fees is about 2 years media value. I use the AAC as the best comp since they are the most similar conference to the MW. That is what they settled on, and they were facing fees up to 45 mil a piece before they settled.

So 11 mil is likely the tippy top. 10 is more realistic since we only made 6 last year due to the scheduling agreement with the PAC 2. It could be as low at 7.2 as that is the 2 year base media value.

I know you question it, But I know I heard Harper say the PAC offered 6 mil for exit fees at a press conference. Which makes sense. The worst part of the AAC teams was the 2.5 million dollar offer, and they knew they had to do better. They are at their most desperate now where I think they could easily pay.

The language of GOR definitely made it seem much more difficult to get out of the MW. It had specific language that we agree to stay even if we don't any of the money we were promised. There is no duress argument since this was signed well after the initial agreement and all of the risk was definitely known vs signing back in the fall.

If we can get out successfully if the lawsuits heavily favor the PAC that would be great, but I am very doubtful at that at this point.

The onlt thing favoring UNLV right now is that the PAC still needs an 8th. As soon as they get one, the door will be shut. It feels like that UNLV is their first choice right now, and could be why they don't have an 8th. I keep seeing posts about UNLV to the PAC elsewhere. There may be some smoke there, but at least right now there seems to be too many hurdles to clear

I really don't know.

I think the AAC schools are off the table. Their exit fees are high, costs of travel skyrockets. Could it happen? Maybe, Never say never and all that. But seems like it could have gotten done it would be done by now.

There just aren't a lot of viable options out west.

One thing about the GOR.

Question really. The GOR we signed was for the 2026 season to 2032 correct?

The MWC currently hasn't renewed its contract or have its media deal finalized as of yet for 2026 and beyond.

Does that open the door at all for UNLV?
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Facilities played a large role in Mullins decision.....

I've said this for years and was ridiculed a bunch for stating this. Sanford was not wrong. He realized that the facilities were in fact holding the program back. It wasn't an excuse. It was reality. Fans just didn't want to hear it. Amazing how quickly this program has turned around once we got top notch facilities.
John Robinson said essentially the same.
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