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Let’s talk Deion Sanders..

Against much better coaching... Dan was HC when Saban was in his prime, Prime Les Miles, Ed O at LSU, Kirby Smart and Mark Richt... thats who you are coaching against and recruiting against and won 103 games... getting top 10 rankings and 7 Bowl wins including the Orange bowl
Dan is a little more aggressive as well.

Remember Odom in the Syracuse game, kneeing the ball with 3 timeouts and there was some clock left to attempt a FG? Defense was terribly gassed.

THIS COULD BE GOOD..


Official! Welcome coach Arnett!

Edit: I was way late on this, apologies.
The more times posted, the better!

SEC Portal Entries

It will be interesting to see how many SEC players hit the portal after the final bowl games and playoffs end. Players have 5 days after their bowl game to enter the portal.
With Mullens connections we should be able to get some good players. Teams with upcoming games:
Texas, Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, S. Carolina and Missouri.

Ol' Miss in particular worth watching with Arnett ties.

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

If theyre getting 20 million dollars a year in media deal, we need to pay up and just go join them. Thats about as close to the P4 $ as you can dream of and that's about 10 million less than their top dollar deal just 2 years ago when the California schools exited. I like the idea of beating down for a few years on the MWC building our brand and winning conference titles with some extra cash to get the big 12 invite, but if its 10-15 more per season in media deal than the MWC, you walk away.

I 100% agree.

If PAC gets anything near 15 million UNLV has to consider making that move right? If there's still an invite on the table.

If they were to turn it down I would have to think the BIG12 has legs. If they were to accept, then the 'Pursue P4 exemption on exit fees' was purely lip service.

I don't think you join the PAC knowing the BIG12 might be a realistic option just to saddle yourself with exit fees again in 2, 3, 4, or 5 years.

When is CDM going to announce his coaching staff?


Based on what he did as DC at SDSU (30th and 2nd in total defense) and MISS STATE (30th in total defense) I'm extremely excited by this hire. Has been given a lot of credit for his work as an analyst at Ol Miss this year.

Add to it a year as a HC..

On paper his resume is better than Scherer. (Not a guarantee the results will be better but you gotta like the odds).

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

If theyre getting 20 million dollars a year in media deal, we need to pay up and just go join them. Thats about as close to the P4 $ as you can dream of and that's about 10 million less than their top dollar deal just 2 years ago when the California schools exited. I like the idea of beating down for a few years on the MWC building our brand and winning conference titles with some extra cash to get the big 12 invite, but if its 10-15 more per season in media deal than the MWC, you walk away.

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

"all the while sitting on a monetary war chest they could use to destroy the MW"

Thats the issue and I think discovery on this case will be very interesting... mostly because i dont think they are sitting on the war chest that everyone thinks. That money is needed for the 2 schools left behind. Its not just money they're holding onto to go buy a conference. They dont want to help pay exit fees or these poaching fees because that takes away from their (OSU/WSU) bottom lines and its money they dont actually currently have. They cant actually spend the money they dont have between the NCAA credits and CFP payouts. Additionally, until they become an official 8 member conference they cant spend any of the money they have- since if they fail to meet the requirements of a conference by 2026 that money goes to everyone equally. Yes, they have the 65 million from the departing schools and whatever was left over from their media rights(minimal I'm guessing) but its not the full dolar amount at least not right now that people assume and with all the promises for helping schools fund their fees, the poaching agreement, etc, they arent exactly sitting on a real pile of cash to pay those. Thats why they are all suing.

Their commissioner has even said it's not a 'war chest'. That money is earmarked for conference growth etc. I do not believe OSU or WSU can just dip into it. Even if they could, it would barely cover WSU's debt. They are in a really tough financial situation.

You're 100% right. I don't think they anticipate outright 'winning' any of these suits. The intention of these suits is to just lower the amount through a settlement. I don't t think either side has a 'smoking gun' that will get the suits thrown out.

One argument I think is odd is CSU and USU saying they never officially announced so therefore they still had voting rights. Um..Ok are you officially announcing now then? Because the less notice you give doesn't it actually raise the exit fees?

I expect PAC to announce an 8th addition soon. Likely a Texas State or possibly North Texas.

Media deal numbers after that. Seeing rumors as high as 18-20 million which sounds absurd.

Likely closer to 10 with maybe a high of 12?

If it comes in closer to 10 it's great for Fresno/SDSU/USU/CSU.

Boise, not so much..A couple million more than they get now with sweetheart deal in MWC.

Definitely not great for WSU or OSU who will have to go on some strict budget diets.

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

"all the while sitting on a monetary war chest they could use to destroy the MW"

Thats the issue and I think discovery on this case will be very interesting... mostly because i dont think they are sitting on the war chest that everyone thinks. That money is needed for the 2 schools left behind. Its not just money they're holding onto to go buy a conference. They dont want to help pay exit fees or these poaching fees because that takes away from their (OSU/WSU) bottom lines and its money they dont actually currently have. They cant actually spend the money they dont have between the NCAA credits and CFP payouts. Additionally, until they become an official 8 member conference they cant spend any of the money they have- since if they fail to meet the requirements of a conference by 2026 that money goes to everyone equally. Yes, they have the 65 million from the departing schools and whatever was left over from their media rights(minimal I'm guessing) but its not the full dolar amount at least not right now that people assume and with all the promises for helping schools fund their fees, the poaching agreement, etc, they arent exactly sitting on a real pile of cash to pay those. Thats why they are all suing.

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

You may be right. Personally I don't see how the argument against the poaching fees holds up at all, but I do think they are trying to pile on the MW with several fronts. It is not like the MW has a ton of money or man power to fight these things. We also don't have a ton of money. In fact the conference has basically promised a bunch of this fee money before we have received it.

Will the MW balk at that? Maybe not, but I think the PAC thought it was worth the tactic. They have the money to fight this more than we do.

My guess is the poaching fees hold up, but they will try to use that against the MW when it comes to exit fees. An average of 11mil per school is actually on the high end of exit fee given our media value already. These are separate issues, but I think it may help talk the exit fee down a bit more than if the poaching fees didn't exist.
It’s an interesting argument, re: talking the exit fees down on account of the poaching fees. Sort of feels like a double dip, but then again as you point out, separate issues.

The exit fees were agreed to years prior by all parties involved. Are they egregious? It might appear so, BUT I think a very good argument could be made as to WHY they are what they are, and we need look no further than the actions that Boise and SDSU have taken in the recent past.

(Total side note: shouldn’t Boises exit fee be higher than the others on account of them getting more money annually?)

When these fees were agreed to the MW was fighting all these external conference realignment battles and needed a way to protect ALL of its members against departures. It was probably also never thought that it would happen THIS way with 5 members all at once.

I guess maybe ask this question… would anyone think the fee is egregious if it was just Boise State leaving? As the most valuable brand I don’t think anyone would think twice that it was fair.

Again, I don’t think any of the departing teams (aside from Boise and maybe SDSU) thought this pertained to them, and if it did by some small chance it would mean they were going to a P5, and who cares at that point?

So they may still get negotiated down, but I don’t think there too much of a legal argument against them, and a pretty sound argument for them. The specific scenario where 5 teams leave wouldn’t have been a consideration to be made, and the MW can’t be liable due to it… in my non lawyer opinion.

As for the poaching fees…

The PAC2 are trying to claim that they were “taken advantage of”… all the while sitting on a monetary war chest they could use to destroy the MW. Their actions basically PROVE the case against them.

They can TRY to point to the “big scary” number as somehow being “unfair”, but I don’t see that as being a sound argument either.
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CDM Era: Transfer Portal and Recruits Thread

Wouldn’t be shocked if he returns. Not easy to move a family around the country especially if only for one year. And isn’t his family in nearby Cali? DeJesus has the potential to flourish even more under a CDM offense.
Depends on the bag. Theoretically the family doesn’t have to move and he can just support them from wherever.
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While Las Vegas may not offer as good of an NIL deal as some of the bigger programs, Las Vegas does have the money and companies to set up players after retirement, which they have done for many of the former UNLV basketball players. If he is looking to set up his family, Dejesus would be better off to stay and have another great year

Army and UNLV

This is absolutely true. In the coming years if you aren't in a power conference it won't make a difference where you are. Revenue sharing begins next year. It starts at $ 20.5 million per school distributed to the students (if you have it) and I believe it will only go up. That will be added to NIL which is exploding. The next set of P4 TV contracts will be gigantic and concentrate media viewing across the nation on P4 programs. As this becomes normal, the have nots will be left completely behind and become irrelevant on the national scene. (Similar to D2/D3 now) A program in our position needs to spend every penny and take every chance to get in. If you don't get in it won't make any difference.
My expectation is that it is going to go in the other direction. The way college football is going will ultimately alienate a large amount of the viewing public, and as games go more and more to streaming, the general public will either not watch football at all, which in many ways has already happened, or they will watch only the team they support. Since traditional TV and cable are shrinking, there will be that point where the huge sums of money being paid to the major conferences will start to dry up.

Let’s talk Deion Sanders..

Only slightly and it’s the MW. Odom was 2-8 vs anyone in the top 50. Zero ranked wins, zero bowl wins, 0-3 vs Boise, 0-2 in championship games.

When the games mattered, it wasn’t good for Odom. Odom got lucky it was a poor coaching market and his agent told him it’s time to grab the bag.


That being said, we got a coach that’s better than both of them combined and has a track record of winning bowl games and winning games that matter.
Against much better coaching... Dan was HC when Saban was in his prime, Prime Les Miles, Ed O at LSU, Kirby Smart and Mark Richt... thats who you are coaching against and recruiting against and won 103 games... getting top 10 rankings and 7 Bowl wins including the Orange bowl
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