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Let’s talk Deion Sanders..

yeah, we paid 3x less for Odom, got way more in return unless your primary value on a coach is headlines.

And yeah, CU sucked the past couple of decades, but they have a much richer history, following and backing than UNLV. And CU had two top 5 NFL picks as team leaders.

Odom FTW vs Sanders in their two years.
Only slightly and it’s the MW. Odom was 2-8 vs anyone in the top 50. Zero ranked wins, zero bowl wins, 0-3 vs Boise, 0-2 in championship games.

When the games mattered, it wasn’t good for Odom. Odom got lucky it was a poor coaching market and his agent told him it’s time to grab the bag.


That being said, we got a coach that’s better than both of them combined and has a track record of winning bowl games and winning games that matter.

Army and UNLV

This is absolutely true. In the coming years if you aren't in a power conference it won't make a difference where you are. Revenue sharing begins next year. It starts at $ 20.5 million per school distributed to the students (if you have it) and I believe it will only go up. That will be added to NIL which is exploding. The next set of P4 TV contracts will be gigantic and concentrate media viewing across the nation on P4 programs. As this becomes normal, the have nots will be left completely behind and become irrelevant on the national scene. (Similar to D2/D3 now) A program in our position needs to spend every penny and take every chance to get in. If you don't get in it won't make any difference.
Your post is right, but I believe 20.5m is the starting cap. Its based on a % of total athletic revenue that can be distributed and is separate from NiL.

We can’t afford to be left off the gravy boat.
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Army and UNLV

Again, I agree. Worth the risk. But a lot has to go right for a B12 invite to actually happen.
This is absolutely true. In the coming years if you aren't in a power conference it won't make a difference where you are. Revenue sharing begins next year. It starts at $ 20.5 million per school distributed to the students (if you have it) and I believe it will only go up. That will be added to NIL which is exploding. The next set of P4 TV contracts will be gigantic and concentrate media viewing across the nation on P4 programs. As this becomes normal, the have nots will be left completely behind and become irrelevant on the national scene. (Similar to D2/D3 now) A program in our position needs to spend every penny and take every chance to get in. If you don't get in it won't make any difference.

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

I was not trying to sound contradictory there, actually it is the same point. My argument was that our numbers were not good enough, because IF they were, why snuff us out? Does that make sense? I don't think any sort of perceived jealousy would trump earning potential for everyone.


Is there some sort of jealously and fear of UNLV/Las Vegas? Maybe. But I think it was 90% based off of their original media partners and their "metrics" that we all laugh about. Look at the numbers that we can see, and UNLV is not in the top. Simple as that. We don't see all of the Ratings data either. We can use attendance as a guide, but their aren't the same thing. Us UNLV fans tend to over rate our school. We do it with our players, our coaches, our teams, and our media worth. Sometimes we have to read between the lines. We have been in talks with the Big 12 ever since the Fertitta Complex was under construction. We have had meeting with their brass a few times trying to sell UNLV. We haven't been in their top 8 before when it came to expansion. We were not in the top group for the PAC. Why? Because though there is potential here, UNLV's market penetration has not been good. The results are what they are.

Which brings me to Utah State? Yes they are third fiddle to BYU and Utah, but perhaps they have decent TV numbers anyway. AFA was left out because I think military academies have a bit of a ceiling. They potentially have a national fan base, but I think AFA is a distant 3rd to Army and Navy based off of people who serve.

The only way I think some conferences are "afraid" of Vegas is that having a home team there makes conference championships muddy. I think is hurts us as much as it helps us.


I'm not exactly sure what you are asking here. I think the PAC 2 know better than anyone how you can't count on exit fees. They just went through that process and settled for 65% of a very reasonable exit fee. I'm sure that plays a role in terms of all of this. As for the poaching fees? I don't know what happens there. I do think dragging things out helps them if that answers the question. By slowly adding on lawsuits from the poaching and the exit fees I think they are just trying to overwhelm the MW to force some settlements.


I generally agree. A merged PACWEST would have a better overall brand. But that isn't the goal. The goal is to maximize the bottom line. So these moves were made for that reason almost alone. I think they signed the poaching fee agreement with full intention of merging, but once they saw the projected numbers on media value, they retracted. The PAC 2 was working of their value from previous media negotiations and it was too hard to swallow.
So cherry pick the best markets and most of the best brands. Sure they are regional, but again not sure how much that matters. I don't think that a ton of people care about SDSU vs CSU vs SJSU and AFA around the country. But I think the SDSU vs CSU game gets significantly more eyeballs because those programs have stronger fan bases.

Obviously things have not gone to plan with the PAC, but I don't think things are as dire as everyone else things
I can say that the Pac didn’t approach the MW media partners. They did what they did behind the scenes leaning on their consultants to derive project value. CBS would have fought tooth and nail to stop the exodus.
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Miss State

Talk about Coach Arnett's defense, the 3-3-5. What is the thing that this defense do best?
You get a lot of chaos as the offensive line and QB dont know whos is coming or dropping into coverage at the snap. Sometimes you get 6 or 7 guys on the line and 3 or 4 drop into coverage, sometimes they all come. Its a really aggressive defensive philosophy and really shines at these mid-level conferences who can get smaller faster defenders that might get over shadowed at bigger P4 schools. You get a ton of versatility and is very well suited for the offenses we see in the MWC.

Let’s talk Deion Sanders..

I’ve been to probably 10 games at Folsom Field, I’ve always been a CU fan but he makes it hard to root for him. He has done a good job there, but as noted above hasn’t beat a ranked team and in those games several were not even competitive.
In games they did win his stars were in at the end of the game where at most schools those players would have already had their helmets taken away.
His son that plays DB is a complete asshat. I was at the Oregon CU game last year where the kid was talking all kinds of shit pregame. Oregon won by about 60 and he left the game peeing blood. This week vs byu he was doing the Deion shuffle after tackles as they were getting blown out. I know when your brother and dad get all of the attention it’s easy to have little dick syndrome but this guy in unreal.

The CU trips were always hilarious. Getting pulled over on the freeway wearing the unis we stole out of the Folsom Field ROTC office lol.

Let’s talk Deion Sanders..

I don't have a problem with Sanders or Colorado, I just don't like the extra attention that they get. They are good, but not great. Last year they were mediocre or worse.

I know things don't work that way. Teams have intrigue beyond their actual merit. ESPN always talks way too much about the Cowboys even though they have been irrelevant from a football perspective for decades now. People watch when they are talked about, so they get extra attention. It bugs me but I understand it.

Colorado/Sanders kinda came out of nowhere in that regard. Which it is a bit more annoying. It isn't just the fact it is Deion because he used to be a player, Deion himself is out there marketing the crap out of his team and selling them hard. Overpromsing and being boisterous.

Almost completely opposite to Odom. He was boring and workmanlike in the media. But we got some attention from our play on the field (and Sluka unfortunately).

It seems like Mullen is a bit more boisterous. Using his connections to get on media as many ways as he can. He is no Deion, which I like, but he has a little more razzle dazzle than Odom.

After 9 years his college career comes to an end

Good kid, err man, good family. I watched him and followed his injuries at Oregon. Here is a really good article about his journey(long)

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Let’s talk Deion Sanders..

I’ve been to probably 10 games at Folsom Field, I’ve always been a CU fan but he makes it hard to root for him. He has done a good job there, but as noted above hasn’t beat a ranked team and in those games several were not even competitive.
In games they did win his stars were in at the end of the game where at most schools those players would have already had their helmets taken away.
His son that plays DB is a complete asshat. I was at the Oregon CU game last year where the kid was talking all kinds of shit pregame. Oregon won by about 60 and he left the game peeing blood. This week vs byu he was doing the Deion shuffle after tackles as they were getting blown out. I know when your brother and dad get all of the attention it’s easy to have little dick syndrome but this guy in unreal.

UNLV Hockey

I am guessing you haven't followed UNLV hockey much? Foley has been very involved and done a lot for UNLV hockey as well as local hockey.
He’s basically built one rink, CNA. The Water street rink the City of Henderson gave him that land and provided funding through the water street revival fund. Then the City of Henderson spent another $60 million towards the dollar loan center (lee’s currently). Then he took over Hylo where the Rebels used to play (so yes I’ve followed) to avoid having to build additional sheets of ice. Ice is a premium here in the valley that is constantly in use with hardly any availability .

I’m not discounting what he has done, because it’s been apparent with them moving into CNA. All I’m saying is the organization/ billionaire could really do a ton more for youth hockey and also help UNLV move into D1 status especially for a community that has supported his team so well.
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4 Star visit

Normally I wouldn’t want the Mater Dei/St John Bosco players that are looking to transfer before they arrive but that goes for any school and player now.

Is he a Ricky Whote replacement on ST? If he can’t get four blocked punts per season then I don’t want him. *Sarcasm*

I’ll take Bosco and MD players all day. Basically playing in a college system. Oregon has 8-10 on their roster and 3-4 incoming recruits from those high schools. If any decide to leave Eugene I’d definitely kick the tires.
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CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

I don't see the Pac or MWC dragging things out. At this point the cases (exit fees and poaching fees) are being driven by the judges. With the poaching fees the Pac has until 1-13-25 to respond to the MWC motion to dismiss the case. A hearing will then take place 3-25-25. The case filed by the Pac was essentially challenged with the motion to dismiss as the MW contends the Pac did not show in their original filing how they were harmed by the Scheduling Agreement. In my non legal opinion I think the MW has a better argument in this case.

I have no opinion on the exit fee case so it's just a wait and see thing as to how that turns out. But, I don't think the MW is overwhelmed at all. Two separate cases in two different States (CA & CO) with two different law firms licensed for those jurisdictions. If anything Gloria is going to fight like hell to protect the MW.
You may be right. Personally I don't see how the argument against the poaching fees holds up at all, but I do think they are trying to pile on the MW with several fronts. It is not like the MW has a ton of money or man power to fight these things. We also don't have a ton of money. In fact the conference has basically promised a bunch of this fee money before we have received it.

Will the MW balk at that? Maybe not, but I think the PAC thought it was worth the tactic. They have the money to fight this more than we do.

My guess is the poaching fees hold up, but they will try to use that against the MW when it comes to exit fees. An average of 11mil per school is actually on the high end of exit fee given our media value already. These are separate issues, but I think it may help talk the exit fee down a bit more than if the poaching fees didn't exist.

11 wins with qbs that are probably in bottom 25% as far as throwing

Not saying we would or wouldn't...

I think Maiava could have pulled out a game like Syracuse. I also think he was as capable of imploding and we lose to somebody like KU..

With Mullen as HC I'd rather have Maiava than Hajj. I think Mullen could get the best out of him and correct some things.
Both Colandrea and Maiava are gunslingers and both are young. Both have some really good experience.

Maiava just made some terrible, terrible decisions and throws against A&M, he also dropped some absolute dimes. A quick release and really good overall arm talent. I agree he has to clean things up, and it is hard to say if he had improved with those things since last season given how USC's season went this year. Obviously, he needs work on ball security

I think Colandrea is a better fit with Mullen vs Jaden, not that this is even an option. But being a bit more mobile fits the spread option more, since the read option will still be a part of the offense. But unlike the Go go, we need guys that can extend plays with their legs for the pass first before a QB run.

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Speaking of Colandrea, interesting that he did not make this list of the top 25 transfer QBs, but Sluka did. I think this was perhaps purely off of maybe Rival's rankings. Not sure.
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