ADVERTISEMENT

Live feed

Forum list Trending threads

Live feed

 Posts

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

RebelinWA
Meister_Rebel said:
If I watch football the same as the stock market I would be high on UTEP. Only OSU has a better recruitment ranking. UNLV and WSU were higher than them but, with the coaching changes we've dropped. We may have awakened a sleeping giant in UTEP just like UNLV has awakened. Just keep an eye on their attendance numbers once they join the MWC. The fans hated CUSA and they are thrilled to be joining the MWC.

That being said make sure you add my two seats in next years count as I didn't have season tickets this year. lol.
Click to expand...
I agree about Utep. They just need to win. They already have decent facilities and a couple of big boosters. The Hunt family are oil billionaires

www.elpasotimes.com

Inside look: UTEP football’s upgraded locker room at Durham Center

Get an inside look at UTEP football’s upgraded locker room at Durham Center.
www.elpasotimes.com

I would say their program is where the Hauck/ Sanchez era was. It would like an alternative history if UNLV had an on campus stadium built instead of allegiant.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: SilverSpoon and Meister_Rebel

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

Bullmastiff 1
Meister_Rebel said:
If I watch football the same as the stock market I would be high on UTEP. Only OSU has a better recruitment ranking. UNLV and WSU were higher than them but, with the coaching changes we've dropped. We may have awakened a sleeping giant in UTEP just like UNLV has awakened. Just keep an eye on their attendance numbers once they join the MWC. The fans hated CUSA and they are thrilled to be joining the MWC.

That being said make sure you add my two seats in next years count as I didn't have season tickets this year. lol.
Click to expand...

I agree on UTEP's potential.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: Meister_Rebel

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

M
If I watch football the same as the stock market I would be high on UTEP. Only OSU has a better recruitment ranking. UNLV and WSU were higher than them but, with the coaching changes we've dropped. We may have awakened a sleeping giant in UTEP just like UNLV has awakened. Just keep an eye on their attendance numbers once they join the MWC. The fans hated CUSA and they are thrilled to be joining the MWC.

That being said make sure you add my two seats in next years count as I didn't have season tickets this year. lol.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: TimothyC3, RebelinWA and Bullmastiff 1

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

Bullmastiff 1
RebelinWA said:
School2024 averages2023 averageyear to year %5 year average5 year to year %
UNLV32,20323,66136.10%20,96353.61%
Air Force26,22629,616-11.45%26,832-2.26%
Wyoming21,93723,163-5.29%21,2773.11%
UTEP19,39318,1606.79%17,07113.60%
reno17,41916,9982.48%17,3680.30%
San Jose State16,05816,804-4.44%15,6652.51%
New Mexico16,00115,9820.12%15,9230.49%
Hawaii12,96311,25115.21%14,380-9.85%
Fresno State40,60039,9691.58%35,09515.69%
Boise State37,23535,8673.81%34,1619.00%
Oregon State35,79936,969-3.16%33,3257.43%
Colorado State33,08226,50924.80%26,66824.05%
San Diego State24,77024,832-0.25%25,347-2.28%
Washington State22,41328,023-20.02%27,211-17.63%
Utah State16,99219,282-11.88%19,188-11.44%
There you go. 2024 attendance averages (not including bowl games), 2023 attendance averages, the percentage of change year to year, and what the 5 year average/ trends look like.
Click to expand...

UNM numbers are pathetic...

Maybe more pathetic are the SJSU numbers. They've actually been pretty good the last few years, are in a massive metro area and nobody gives a damn.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: Boston Rebel 2, RebelinWA and j. spilotro

Toledo beat Pitt 6OT

Boston Rebel 2
Rosegreen1 said:
Say whatever you want about Livengood but his successors were disasters. At least Livengood oversaw a bowl appearance and NCAA tournaments under his tenure.
Click to expand...
Livengood was actually decent and had potential he had a lot of ideas he wanted to implement but no support to do it. I know he was pretty damn direct with his opinions on building athletics that some didn’t like or want to hear.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: bcvegaspt2, reagan21 and Bullmastiff 1

Colandrea Highlights....

unlove
Great to have a coach who is known as a guy who develops NFL level QBs. An above average to great QB can make a mediocre team good and a good team great. Hope CDM’s eye for QBs hasn’t diminished and this kid flourishes under him into a legit NFL draft pick. It would not only make UNLV competitive at a high level but put UNLV on the map for high end QB recruits. Not expecting CDM to last here more than two years but I sure hope he taps the potential of UNLV & the LV market such that it becomes a revenue machine that can pay him (or his successor) a salary that competes with most P4 programs.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: RebelinWA

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

RebelinWA
dcut03 said:
Exactly. In 23 we had our best season in 20 yrs and it only jumped 1k from the previous season. They made their move early this football season and we didn't exactly start the year with great attendance numbers and our Houston game kinda had an embarrassing viewership considering.
We were left out at that time because the numbers supported to NOT invite us. At least not initially the first group.
Click to expand...

Wyoming was probably excluded because of travel costs/ growth potential. No clue on Afa, but they might have been excluded from the original just because its a service academy.

Going off of the 4 AAC schools averages for that same timeframe, its easy to see why they would have wanted them over any of us. Completely remove the 2024 averages and only look at the 2023. Its clear that they thought that the AAC 4 would pull similar numbers to the pac

SchoolConference2023 attendance average
Fresno StateNew pac39,969
South FloridaAmerican37,944
Boise StateNew pac35,867
Oregon StatePac36,969
MemphisAmerican29,782
UNLVMountain West29,616
UTSAAmerican28,876
Washington StatePac28,023
Colorado StateNew pac26,509
TulaneAmerican25,021
San Diego StateNew pac24,832
Air ForceMountain West23,661
WyomingMountain West23,163
Utah StateNew pac19,282
UTEPC-USA18,160
renoMountain West16,998
San Jose StateMountain West16,804
New MexicoMountain West15,982
HawaiiMountain West11,251

Compare those to the 2024 numbers. No one was expecting the AAC schools to decline, and UNLV to boom. I thought OSU and WSU would be in decline. But WSU is not in decline, its in freefall along with the 4 named AAC schools.

SchoolConference2024 averagesyear to year % compared with 2023
Fresno StateNew pac40,6001.58%
Boise StateNew pac37,2353.81%
Oregon StatePac 35,799-3.16%
Colorado StateNew pac33,08224.80%
UNLVMountain West32,20336.10%
South FloridaAmerican31,424-17.18%
Air ForceMountain West26,226-11.45%
San Diego StateNew pac24,770-0.25%
MemphisAmerican24,552-17.56%
TulaneAmerican23,980-4.16%
Washington StatePac 22,413-20.02%
WyomingMountain West21,937-5.29%
UTSAAmerican21,059-27.07%
UTEPC-USA19,3936.79%
renoMountain West17,4192.48%
San Jose StateMountain West16,058-4.44%
New MexicoMountain West16,0010.12%
HawaiiMountain West12,96315.21%
Utah StateNew pac16,992-11.88%
Click to expand...

CSU/USU suing MW over exit fees

dcut03
RebelinWA said:
School2023 averages2022 averageyear to year %5 year average5 year to year %
Air Force29,61626,9269.99%26,73910.76%
UNLV23,66122,1127.00%19,72119.98%
Wyoming23,16319,70717.54%20,76711.54%
UTEP18,16019,134-5.09%17,3484.68%
reno16,99814,90514.04%17,313-1.82%
San Jose State16,80416,4222.33%15,14510.95%
New Mexico15,98214,9666.79%16,965-5.80%
Hawaii11,2519,21022.17%16,978-33.73%
Fresno State39,96939,0672.31%33,22820.29%
Oregon State36,96931,49817.37%32,88212.43%
Boise State35,86735,1212.12%33,2137.99%
Washington State28,02326,1857.02%28,0030.07%
Colorado State26,50926,891-1.42%27,778-4.57%
San Diego State24,83229,892-16.93%28,250-12.10%
Utah State19,28216,95413.73%19,353-0.37%
Here is that same list for 2023 and 2022, which is what the Pac would have been using when they started talking.
Click to expand...
Exactly. In 23 we had our best season in 20 yrs and it only jumped 1k from the previous season. They made their move early this football season and we didn't exactly start the year with great attendance numbers and our Houston game kinda had an embarrassing viewership considering.
We were left out at that time because the numbers supported to NOT invite us. At least not initially the first group.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: Meister_Rebel and RebelinWA
Load more
ADVERTISEMENT

Filter

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back