dcut03 said:

The MW should have pushed hard to keep these 2 things separate. So separate rooms is nice and all, but same mediator isn't great. Saving some money on lawyers is great and all, but if the poaching fees get drastically reduced because they can be lumped as additional exit fees.

Unless the MW do not think they have a strong legal argument with the poaching fees ( which counters everything they have said publically), and are cutting their losses early.

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I would think the MWC will still have two sets of lawyers. One focused on the Exit Fees and the other focused on the Poaching Fees This is too important for the MWC to skimp on lawyers. Many have thought that the two cases in mediation would get lumped together but, I don't think that is possible. The Pac12 case is only with the poaching fees and they can't be part of the exit fee discussion because they aren't a party in the case. That wouldn't make sense. The mediation may be going on simultaneously but, I believe the two cases will have separate settlements. Those are my wishes so let it be done.

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The player's Era festival is a good event that we absolutely should be in. Especially since it helps pay NIL.

BUT...

All of our games are going to be considered home games for NET which hurts us. So ideally we should find tournaments/events like this outside of Las Vegas. But this one is so good, you cannot pass it up.

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Which reminds me that the MW tournament also counts as home games for UNLV. Which is why I think we should treat all UNLV MW tournament games like home games. Give season ticket holder first dibs on their seats, bring back our intro and light show. Give us our bench and the band their spot. The whole 9. If the NCAA are going to consider these home games, let's make these effing home games!

bcvegaspt2 said:

Does having the same mediator sound like a bad idea to anyone else, or is it just me?
Do the conferences save money by employing only one?

I don’t see the reason, even for “efficiency.” There’s no way that both topics don’t get mixed together despite being separate issues.

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The MW should have pushed hard to keep these 2 things separate. So separate rooms is nice and all, but same mediator isn't great. Saving some money on lawyers is great and all, but if the poaching fees get drastically reduced because they can be lumped as additional exit fees.

Unless the MW do not think they have a strong legal argument with the poaching fees ( which counters everything they have said publically), and are cutting their losses early.

BornRebelRed said:

Rebels play at Memphis. They also have 3 great games here in Las Vegas on Thanksgiving week in the Players Era Festival mostly at T -Mobile. All 3 games will be top Fifty type teams so that is great.
All we need is a couple good teams coming into the T&M and a couple true road games during the rodeo instead of scheduling anything at Lee,s Family Forum. We need a few true road games and those games in Henderson only draw 3-4 thousand. Which is not good and not worth the time..

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The player's Era festival is a good event that we absolutely should be in. Especially since it helps pay NIL.

BUT...

All of our games are going to be considered home games for NET which hurts us. So ideally we should find tournaments/events like this outside of Las Vegas. But this one is so good, you cannot pass it up.

It blows my mind that McDuffie didn't make it. McDuffie didn't even play every game, but still had higher per game averages than the unr LB who made it.

lvhiker said:

I don’t think college football is a career path for most of the team. I have no idea how far down the NIL money trickles but hard to believe it is substantial for most of the players.

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My point is that they are getting paid now. Not “after graduation.” Now. That and they are learning how to become coaches, managers, etc for future employment.

I don’t feel bad that many of them won’t play on Sundays since many are earning way more than I do even after my dedication to my studies.

dcut03 said:

I have not heard that before. That makes sense and is good for the MW.

Same mediator though, so I can see how making the argument that the poaching and exit fees basically the same could create some influence.

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Does having the same mediator sound like a bad idea to anyone else, or is it just me?
Do the conferences save money by employing only one?

I don’t see the reason, even for “efficiency.” There’s no way that both topics don’t get mixed together despite being separate issues.

lvhiker said:

Most of the players won’t make a living playing football. So this is good and ought to be celebrated. Go rebels.

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Maybe if they spent less time school book learnin' and more time playbook learnin' we might beat Boise!

They ain't making any money with one of them degrees in that math thats got numbers and letters in it. Unless they are going to teach classes about the math with numbers and letters.

And they certainly ain't making no darn money learnin history about France or Canada and their stupid wooden shoes and windmills and communism..

I don’t think college football is a career path for most of the team. I have no idea how far down the NIL money trickles but hard to believe it is substantial for most of the players.

Rebels play at Memphis. They also have 3 great games here in Las Vegas on Thanksgiving week in the Players Era Festival mostly at T -Mobile. All 3 games will be top Fifty type teams so that is great.
All we need is a couple good teams coming into the T&M and a couple true road games during the rodeo instead of scheduling anything at Lee,s Family Forum. We need a few true road games and those games in Henderson only draw 3-4 thousand. Which is not good and not worth the time..

Meister_Rebel said:

It's been reported that their is one mediator and two different rooms separating the negotiations. The mediator is actually going back and forth between rooms when needed. Apparently they are keeping the two items (law suit issues) apart. That's all fine and dandy I just want our money.

Just pointing out that both the poaching and exit fees mediations are going on simultaneously.

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I have not heard that before. That makes sense and is good for the MW.

Same mediator though, so I can see how making the argument that the poaching and exit fees basically the same could create some influence.

RebelScrub said:

The bluebloods have been dissolved in 2025.

NIL cash is king.

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Replaced with blue balls! 😁

lvhiker said:

Most of the players won’t make a living playing football. So this is good and ought to be celebrated. Go rebels.

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They are already “making a living” playing football.

The bluebloods have been dissolved in 2025.

NIL cash is king.

Gonzaga has been great for 25 years one of the best over that span but to me 25 years doesnt make a Blue Blood it has to be a much longer history than that.

UCLA, UNC, Duke, Kansas, Indiana and Kentucky are Blue Bloods. UConn has 6 championships the first was 1999. I dont consider them a Blue Blood either but Im ok with someone else saying they and the Zags are.

Mojo702 said:

Regardless of the AP poll, you guys really think Texas was a 5th seed and Ohio St was an eighth seed while Boise and ASU were 3 & 4 respectively? In my mind, the polls represent those above can/should beat the teams below.
Reseeding makes sense.

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Exactly

RebelinWA said:

What this interview misses is that we've been talking to them since 2016. We were told back then bluntly without a meeting that we would not be considered for expansion. However a lot has changed since then. Its good that they considered us important enough to be worth the time to have a few days worth of talks with us. In my opinion, we aren't quite there yet; but we're trending in the right direction. The next 5 years are crucial for the program.

I personally don't believe we need to spend big12 athletics money until we're ready to move up. The more important number is NiL. That will allow us to stay competitive and to keep these big win years going.

As @Bullmastiff 1 has mentioned, Harper could have easily taken a Rolovich at significant discount. I wouldn't have bat an eye if Rolovich became the coach. That would have been enough to show that Harper was "trying."

But Harper instead brought on Mullen, is paying Mullen well (its not too far below Big12 money, and Harper has demonstrated that he will give raises for performance), increased staff budgets, increased NiL, and began laying down the foundations for continuing to make UNLV successful.

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I would have batted all three eyes if Rolovich became the coach.

dcut03 said:

A couple of things, technically the PAC "owes" 55 million, the exiting schools "owe" the rest. We don't know how much the PAC is helping for the traitorous 5.

Lumping poaching fees and exit fees into 1 negotiation isn't great for the MW. I don't think it the PAC would just offer half for all of them. They are going to argue that the MW is trying to double dip. So the first mediation will likely be the the if the poaching fees are valid/fair at all. That will likely be handled first. After that is cleared up, I think the exit fees will get negotiated like they always do, likely using recent precedent at what a "fair" amount truly is. It is also very possible that whatever is settle with poaching fees could still influence the decision on where the exit fees are settled at. If the "double dipping" argument gets any traction. This again is where a combined mediation could hurt the MW.

If they were decided to the mediated separately, I think the MW would essentially get more out of it, though more expensive with legal fees.

There is no way that UNLV would pay 20-30 in legal and exit fees. I think that the exit fees would start at 7-11 million, and could be less with the poaching fees possibly influencing where the exit fees end up. Again this is purely off recent precedent. AAC's exiting 4 for being the closest comp.

Given the PAC's desperation, I think they easily offer to pay UNLV's fees outright, it may end up being very little more than what they offered previously. Especially if they get a big reduction in poaching fees.

Yes UNLV, would have legal fees for their own negotiation, though that could be very easy because these mediations will give the most valid precedent. The har part is getting out of the GOR. Which is why I thought signing it when we did was a mistake. That probably would be the biggest hurdle at this point, and may just end the whole idea. But at least it seems like the PAC has not given up on UNLV. So who knows.

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It's been reported that there is one mediator and two different rooms separating the negotiations. The mediator is actually going back and forth between rooms when needed. Apparently they are keeping the two items (law suit issues) apart. That's all fine and dandy I just want our money.

Just pointing out that both the poaching and exit fees mediations are going on simultaneously.

Most of the players won’t make a living playing football. So this is good and ought to be celebrated. Go rebels.

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I would have been happy for the program 10 years ago.

Now, I’m not delusional enough to think about these kids as amateurs or students first.

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If Sheddeur can get a degree..

RBMAN said:

Have the leaving schools even served paperwork to officially leave the conference? I believe that the deadline is coming up in a matter of days so that could throw a wrench in all the conversations and plans. Maybe they are hoping for a quick resolution on the mediation. Where would the MWC be if all the schools decided not to leave considering they already filled their spots?

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It is sometime this summer, but it may be as late as August or before the next school year begins.

I doubt these mediations last months, probably will settle within 2 weeks at the most, you would think.

Boston Rebel 2 said:

We were probably on our way but no one had declared us one yet and as good as Gonzaga has been they still aren’t up to our peak.

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Blue blood or not, they are a top 5 College basketball program. Point being, not a fair comparison.

I just listened to the beginning UNLV section.

I agree that it is a good thing that UNLV has been in discussions with the BIg 12. We all knew that they have happened in the past, but I don't know if it was reported that they have done so again in the past few months, that is encouraging.

I think they are way off with a few other things.

As mentioned above no mention of the free pass. For sure with the MW and it has at least been reported that the PAC is offering the same. They talked like the Bi12 door was essentially closed for now when it certainly is not.

Also as mentioned before they talked about a financial commitment. The highest paid coach in all of G5 and many P4's isn't a commitment? The Fertitta complex wasn't a commitment? It has been reported that UNLV has really upped their NIL efforts for football, that isn't a commitment???

I think signing the GOR when we did was a huge mistake. They mentioned keeping the options open, but signing GOR when they did essentially does the opposite. The PAC didn't have a TV contract, since the GOR signing it was reported that the PAC essentially has a contract ready to go, just waiting on the 8th (or more) schools before finalizing. We know they have added partners for this upcoming year, not a stretch to assume that some or all of those same partners are on board for 2026 and beyond.

If UNLV were "uncommited" right now in writing, the PAC could likely have a realistic offer of what UNLV could get with them as a part of the PAC. Much less concrete when UNLV signed when they did. The PAC will still probably try once the mediation is settled.

Like I have mentioned before, I don't think the expense for leaving for either conference would be that high. I think they could convince the PAC to pay their exit fees, and their would be no expense for the Big 12. So yes, superficially it looks like UNLV would have upfront costs, but in reality probably not that much.