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Attendance against Alabama State

I think the true attendance would be around 17,500 because interest is super high.

But all these other things that Vegas has going on … it’s just really bad timing. Because of those other things, our actual bodies in seats will probably be only 5K. But multiply what ever warm bodies are in there by 3.5 to get the TRUE attendance. DO NOT believe for one second that overall interest has dropped, it’s just temporarily displaced by unfriendly circumstances of the night.
While UNLV attendance is likely to struggle until they can show that this team will turn things around, I find it unlikely that a game between Ohio State and Texas would have any real impact on the attendance for UNLV. Either you are going to UNLV basketball or you are not, they do not tend to get many casual fans that go to their games when playing lower level opponents.
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Rebels Media Coverage

Kevin needs to give them something to talk about.
I guess they could say Rebels play Alabama St tonight. This is a Rebel team that has less talent than last years team. A team that lost to Southern and got blown out at Home to Air Force. More than likely a .500 team this year. How many people are going to care to read or listen to that discussion?
Want Rebel coverage in basketball then Kevin needs to put a product on the floor worth talking about.

UNLV (-13.5) @ Hawaii

Hawaii is 4-5 now, just beat Fresno at Fresno with 2 TD's in the 4th, much better team.
But UNLV is the 2nd best team in MWC, there is no reason not to finish this out with 4 and row at 10-2 and get good bowl game if they dont get Boise rematch.

Tell me this, how many would have said 3 years ago, UNLV is going to win 19 games in 2 year stretch in Football, not one of us.

Rebels Media Coverage

UNLV is at war with our local media groups. The Rebels for the last few months are NEVER mentioned on Las Vegas’s main early morning talk show. It’s on purpose. A lot of friction going on. And today, November 5, our basketball home opener, got a blimp of an article in the morning sports section on page 9. Unheard of those many glorious years ago. So, what is the problem? Who owns the radio station that would allow its own show to not talk about the home town team? Something has got to give. Been going on for a while. On a lighter note, Kruger’s Rebels have a chance tonight to change course, come out RUNNIN… Come out fired up… Come out with the purpose of being Exciting… Or, we get the same vanilla product on the floor again. Your choice Rebels. Quit being mediocre. Run Rebels Run… Reinvent Runnin Rebel Fever.. win Las Vegas back again.
UNLV fans are not even interested, so why should the media make a big deal about UNLV?
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PAC HIRES OCTAGON

If they go from 5 million to say 8 millon. Is it an upgrade? Sure. No doubt.

It's also nearly half of what they thought they could get and at best makes them the top G6 conference, which oddly enough the MWC was already considered arguably the best G6.

'The return to a POWER conference is out the window'

The biggest loser could end up being OSU/WSU who could end up making a 3rd of what their previous contract had been. Sure better something than nothing but it will be tighten the belts for them now.

Great for USU/CSU/SDSU etc. They get a raise.

You do not hire Octagon this late in the process if things are going well. And I'd be willing to bet there are some rumblings now about direction. The only schools with a vote until 2026 are OSU and WSU.
None of the new PAC schools have a 'P4' clause to get out for free.

How stupid would you feel as the SDSU AD if Big12 came knocking again. And here you are signed up with a 30 million dollar exit fee after already paying 11 million dollar one.

Would not be shocked if Octagon is telling them a lot of things they don't want to hear.
Are you sure on the part about no P4 exit clause for free? I thought I saw on X where people were saying that the PAC schools ARE able to exit if invited to an autonomous 4 conference. Maybe the key part is "free exit" though. I'll have to check into that.

UNLV (-13.5) @ Hawaii

Man I really don't want to go down this rabbit hole because it will derail this thread. But with NIL money and how disproportionate that money is male vs female athletes, you just knew this was going to happen at some point...

Male player X gets 100k Female player Y gets 20k in NIL.


'We play the same number of games therefore we should be compensated equally is inevitable.
That argument should be worth mentioning only when schools pay students themselves when that happens.

Even so, Caitlyn Clark made more last year(3.1 mil) than any men's basketball player this year.


So you get paid your worth. It is simple economics

PAC HIRES OCTAGON

Maybe, we don't know that for sure. I'm sure they were hooked in with dreams of that number (12-15), but again from the beginning they were 'shooting for the fences", so I'm sure they were given a range and not promised that number.

It doesn't seem that they expected us or AFA to turn them down. So sure I am guessing they are annoyed, but I doubt they are livid

But bottom line, All MW teams are getting upgraded. More money than now, more money than a merger, and with the very well established precedent of exit fees getting negotiated down, they can pay off those fees over time themselves and still net more per year than they are now. But it sure sounded like they will be getting help for the exit fees, if not having them paid in full. Plus they don't have to go to Wyoming which is a travel nightmare, especially for basketball. Hawaii too. A better conference top to bottom. Not P4, but they have a step up on all other "G" conferences.

Are they pissed? Probably. But I doubt they are livid. They are upgrading whichever way you slice it.

The PAC 2 have the most to complain about, but it was their actions that started all of this. So what are you going to do? They made this bed.

If they go from 5 million to say 8 millon. Is it an upgrade? Sure. No doubt.

It's also nearly half of what they thought they could get and at best makes them the top G6 conference, which oddly enough the MWC was already considered arguably the best G6.

'The return to a POWER conference is out the window'

The biggest loser could end up being OSU/WSU who could end up making a 3rd of what their previous contract had been. Sure better something than nothing but it will be tighten the belts for them now.

Great for USU/CSU/SDSU etc. They get a raise.

You do not hire Octagon this late in the process if things are going well. And I'd be willing to bet there are some rumblings now about direction. The only schools with a vote until 2026 are OSU and WSU.
None of the new PAC schools have a 'P4' clause to get out for free.

How stupid would you feel as the SDSU AD if Big12 came knocking again. And here you are signed up with a 30 million dollar exit fee after already paying 11 million dollar one.

Would not be shocked if Octagon is telling them a lot of things they don't want to hear.

PAC HIRES OCTAGON

No doubt. But it hurts us now. Because we need historical data to show our worth. Right now a "good" UNLV team is showing similar to worse interest to a "bad- so below average" SDSU and CSU.

Number have been going the right direction and I am proud of the Boise turnout. The next home game will tell a lot. Was the Boise a flash in the pan? Can we retain some of those fans even though we lost?

We don't have much luxury to wait. Honestly the better we do now helps the next MW contract, but more importantly we need better support to make that jump to B12.

It helps if we keep winning, and hopefully we do that. Probably our most difficult for the rest of the regular season this week in Hawaii.
I doubt the SUDS game has the same attendance as the BSU game. SUDS fans hardly show up to their home games where as the BSU fans sold a lot of seats at Allegiant.

UNLV (-13.5) @ Hawaii

Man I really don't want to go down this rabbit hole because it will derail this thread. But with NIL money and how disproportionate that money is male vs female athletes, you just knew this was going to happen at some point...

Male player X gets 100k Female player Y gets 20k in NIL.


'We play the same number of games therefore we should be compensated equally is inevitable.
You're right I won't throw any more fuel on that subject. But, it will get interesting when the athletes possibly/maybe become employees of the University rather than receive NIL directly.
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PAC HIRES OCTAGON

UNLV is trending in a good direction and battling decades of mediocrity.
No doubt. But it hurts us now. Because we need historical data to show our worth. Right now a "good" UNLV team is showing similar to worse interest to a "bad- so below average" SDSU and CSU.

Number have been going the right direction and I am proud of the Boise turnout. The next home game will tell a lot. Was the Boise a flash in the pan? Can we retain some of those fans even though we lost?

We don't have much luxury to wait. Honestly the better we do now helps the next MW contract, but more importantly we need better support to make that jump to B12.

It helps if we keep winning, and hopefully we do that. Probably our most difficult for the rest of the regular season this week in Hawaii.

PAC HIRES OCTAGON

'Have the PAC overestimated their brand? Maybe a little.'

Anything less than 12 million is not what Boise/SDSU/CSU and Fresno signed up for.
Maybe, we don't know that for sure. I'm sure they were hooked in with dreams of that number (12-15), but again from the beginning they were 'shooting for the fences", so I'm sure they were given a range and not promised that number.

It doesn't seem that they expected us or AFA to turn them down. So sure I am guessing they are annoyed, but I doubt they are livid

But bottom line, All MW teams are getting upgraded. More money than now, more money than a merger, and with the very well established precedent of exit fees getting negotiated down, they can pay off those fees over time themselves and still net more per year than they are now. But it sure sounded like they will be getting help for the exit fees, if not having them paid in full. Plus they don't have to go to Wyoming which is a travel nightmare, especially for basketball. Hawaii too. A better conference top to bottom. Not P4, but they have a step up on all other "G" conferences.

Are they pissed? Probably. But I doubt they are livid. They are upgrading whichever way you slice it.

The PAC 2 have the most to complain about, but it was their actions that started all of this. So what are you going to do? They made this bed.
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UNLV (-13.5) @ Hawaii

You and me both. This is the kind of stuff that happens under the watch of that person that loves their metrics.


Man I really don't want to go down this rabbit hole because it will derail this thread. But with NIL money and how disproportionate that money is male vs female athletes, you just knew this was going to happen at some point...

Male player X gets 100k Female player Y gets 20k in NIL.


'We play the same number of games therefore we should be compensated equally is inevitable.
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