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Eric Olen?

rebneck
I like the fact that Harp plays it close to the vest, as there are interests to protect on both sides of the equation. The only problem with lack of information is that it creates a void, and people tend to fill that void with well-thought out opinions, desires, or rubbish. As many have said, Harp's football hires have earned him some benefit of the doubt here. I'm just gonna chill and trust the process to play out as it should. It will conclude soon enough and we'll be fine.
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Am I mistaken, did the BIG win as many as the SEC

Rebel1986
rebswin2 said:
Did the BIG win 8 with 8 teams same as the SEC won with 14 teams in round 1/2?

I get it the SEc at the top is very strong but the teams at the bottom of that conference had their opportunity and should not have made the tourney.
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Considering Arkansas was tied with 3 other teams for 9th in the SEC, which means teams 9-13, they are near the bottom of the SEC. This is one of the teams I am assuming you mean shouldn't have made the tournament, but they just finished beating no. 2 seed St John's 75-66 (St. John's is ranked 5th in the nation).
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Eric Olen?

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Masked_rebel said:
If he hadn't spent 1 season here, are we even talking about him as a potentialcandidate... no
So ask yourself, why now, who is pushing his name to the AD, why is he being considered higher than the 5-10 other coaches that are available this cycle...
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Why do you assume Harper is in his office and people are pushing names to him?

Does anyone consider that Harper and Hartman are familiar enough with one another that Harper called him? We don’t know that Hartman is the top choice either, everyone is freaking out because there’s not enough information out there to gauge which way Harper is going.
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Eric Olen?

rebel5280
You have to ask if Hartman and it’s a big “if” is saying all the right things to Harper, why has it taken 30 freaking years for someone to hear them? Lol

As someone else here on Rebelnet said there is an “A” list and then there is an “F” list for candidates and Hartman is near the latter, not because he is a bad guy and not because he is a bad assistant, it’s because he is not a HC with any kind of track record.

Look I hope this is all a moot point but if another assistant is hired here, it will be empty seats, recruits that underwhelm and UNLV basketball continuing to be a laughing stock!
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Eric Olen?

Rebel1986
dcut03 said:
All the things people are sayubg about Hartman you could say about Dutcher. Except Hartman has been a part of really good seasons at multiple stops.
A lot goes into to being an assistant coach. Some things are beyond control.
I think Hartman is a good candidate. Not at the top of the list, but top assistants at big programs go on to become big time head coaches at better programs than ours.
UNLV is not special, not anymore. You dont have to be a special type of dude to be successful here. We need to stop thinking that way.
All we need is a good coach and let him do what he does best.
I like Hartman more than say Eric Olen. He has 2 good years and 3 really bad years. He is somehow superior to Russ Turner hmhwo has been more successful in the same conference for longer. Even this magical season for UCSD was o by 1 game better than Irvine.
I put Hartman on the same level of some of these other coaches.
I think I all have potential to do well. I just hope whoever it is, that we don't just bicker and bicker about all of the flaws trying to break the man down and then wonder why Noone wants to watch his team play. Wow the most popular "fan" site just constantly talks about why we shouldn't watch this team?
We won't hire an grand slam or a home run. Our program is not a good enough job for that right now. We should hope to find a guy that can be successful enough to take a better job and then the next guy will have more potential to do the same.
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I say we should continue to look at UNLV as special. The AD looked for a football coach both times that would first get UNLV to the top of the MWC and then top 25, and now one to bump the team up the next level. I think the basketball hire should be looked at the same way. In for a penny, in for a pound!
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Eric Olen?

Rosegreen1
dcut03 said:
All the things people are sayubg about Hartman you could say about Dutcher. Except Hartman has been a part of really good seasons at multiple stops.
A lot goes into to being an assistant coach. Some things are beyond control.
I think Hartman is a good candidate. Not at the top of the list, but top assistants at big programs go on to become big time head coaches at better programs than ours.
UNLV is not special, not anymore. You dont have to be a special type of dude to be successful here. We need to stop thinking that way.
All we need is a good coach and let him do what he does best.
I like Hartman more than say Eric Olen. He has 2 good years and 3 really bad years. He is somehow superior to Russ Turner hmhwo has been more successful in the same conference for longer. Even this magical season for UCSD was o by 1 game better than Irvine.
I put Hartman on the same level of some of these other coaches.
I think I all have potential to do well. I just hope whoever it is, that we don't just bicker and bicker about all of the flaws trying to break the man down and then wonder why Noone wants to watch his team play. Wow the most popular "fan" site just constantly talks about why we shouldn't watch this team?
We won't hire a grand slam or a home run. Our program is not a good enough job for that right now. We should hope to find a guy that can be successful enough to take a better job and then the next guy will have more potential to do the same.
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I understand the hesitation to hire an “assistant” because it is a different role being the head coach, you oversee everything and not just responsible for a few things. Harper had an interesting quote right after Odom left, one that seemed to be a direct reference to Marion in that a head coach wears many hats and a coordinator is just wearing one hat. You can’t put a value on experience in running a program vs just an offense.

I also understand running big west/southern conference/summit league program is not the same thing as running the UNLV program. So either way, there’s some risk involved for Harper if he cannot land a Keatts or Crean.

Though again, we don’t know what’s being said in phone conversations and interviews. Hartman could be hitting all the right notes and has a detailed plan for UNLV. We simply do not know.
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Eric Olen?

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RebelSoldat said:
Dutcher was an assistant after Fisher at Michigan and SDSU for years. He knew the culture and the program inside and out. Hartman has been a journeyman. Apples and oranges.

Can we stop making excuses for mediocre hires...
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This...
This might be more akin to hiring Noodles after him bring Alfords assistant for years but without the culture
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Who is your top choice to replace KK?

rebel5280
unlove said:
Reality. Succinct and to the point. Everyone wants an experienced head coach. Doesn’t mean they want UNLV or that a deal can be reached. At some point Harp may have to seriously consider an assistant coach; it would be irresponsible of him not to have a plan B. We don’t know all the opportunities and constraints he’s balancing. Let the man do his job.
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Too many former HC’s out there, nobody said it would be easy but as an AD you find one, that is the job!
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Eric Olen?

RebelSoldat
dcut03 said:
All the things people are sayubg about Hartman you could say about Dutcher. Except Hartman has been a part of really good seasons at multiple stops.
A lot goes into to being an assistant coach. Some things are beyond control.
I think Hartman is a good candidate. Not at the top of the list, but top assistants at big programs go on to become big time head coaches at better programs than ours.
UNLV is not special, not anymore. You dont have to be a special type of dude to be successful here. We need to stop thinking that way.
All we need is a good coach and let him do what he does best.
I like Hartman more than say Eric Olen. He has 2 good years and 3 really bad years. He is somehow superior to Russ Turner hmhwo has been more successful in the same conference for longer. Even this magical season for UCSD was o by 1 game better than Irvine.
I put Hartman on the same level of some of these other coaches.
I think I all have potential to do well. I just hope whoever it is, that we don't just bicker and bicker about all of the flaws trying to break the man down and then wonder why Noone wants to watch his team play. Wow the most popular "fan" site just constantly talks about why we shouldn't watch this team?
We won't hire an grand slam or a home run. Our program is not a good enough job for that right now. We should hope to find a guy that can be successful enough to take a better job and then the next guy will have more potential to do the same.
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Dutcher was an assistant for Fisher at Michigan and SDSU for years. He knew the culture and the program inside and out. Hartman has been a journeyman. Apples and oranges.

Can we stop making excuses for mediocre hires...
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Eric Olen?

dcut03
All the things people are sayubg about Hartman you could say about Dutcher. Except Hartman has been a part of really good seasons at multiple stops.
A lot goes into to being an assistant coach. Some things are beyond control.
I think Hartman is a good candidate. Not at the top of the list, but top assistants at big programs go on to become big time head coaches at better programs than ours.
UNLV is not special, not anymore. You dont have to be a special type of dude to be successful here. We need to stop thinking that way.
All we need is a good coach and let him do what he does best.
I like Hartman more than say Eric Olen. He has 2 good years and 3 really bad years. He is somehow superior to Russ Turner hmhwo has been more successful in the same conference for longer. Even this magical season for UCSD was o by 1 game better than Irvine.
I put Hartman on the same level of some of these other coaches.
I think I all have potential to do well. I just hope whoever it is, that we don't just bicker and bicker about all of the flaws trying to break the man down and then wonder why Noone wants to watch his team play. Wow the most popular "fan" site just constantly talks about why we shouldn't watch this team?
We won't hire an grand slam or a home run. Our program is not a good enough job for that right now. We should hope to find a guy that can be successful enough to take a better job and then the next guy will have more potential to do the same.
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