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Syracuse ticket sales

Ok, this seems nutty. You have a half-empty stadium, but stop selling tickets to the walk-ups? That'll encourage the casual fan to attend. And as others have said, how could it possibly cost $120,000 to open up selected sections? As I commented, some of the suites are sold, right? How do they get to the suites? Same concourse as the 200 level seats......right?
Access to different sections is very limited. I have seats in the 7th row in one section, but if I move over just one section, I am required to enter the stadium through a completely different entrance. The suites have a different direction for access that then other level 200 seats that are on the same level as the suites.

No doubt the person who said $120K was guessing, but it does take additional staff and other facilities, and if they do not know that these areas will be needed with enough time, then it may not be feasible to open up additional sections. They have opened section 200 seats for the Iowa State and MWC championship against Boise State. My expectation is that they will open up section 200 if ticket sales continue to increase for future games.

Syracuse ticket sales

Six was probably pretty close. The had a lot of fans on the west side, but otherwise only a few in other areas. The interesting thing is that the stadium sold out in the lower section to the point they had shut down the sale of any more tickets about a half hour before the game started. My guess is not enough sales to justify the cost to open up part of the upper section.
Ok, this seems nutty. You have a half-empty stadium, but stop selling tickets to the walk-ups? That'll encourage the casual fan to attend. And as others have said, how could it possibly cost $120,000 to open up selected sections? As I commented, some of the suites are sold, right? How do they get to the suites? Same concourse as the 200 level seats......right?
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Why none of this may matter.

At some point cutting out programs will also cut out the media market. How long will the interest be there if only a selected few colleges are involved with the game at the top? With very few exceptions, most schools only have a regional following, and even with the big boy schools like Notre Dame and Alabama, very few people on a national level watch their games. The average viewership for an NFL team is around 18 million with the Cowboys averaging around 25 million. College football games with power 4 teams average around 7 million with a high end of around 15 million on ABC (most other games drop way down from there with many games at around 1 million or less viewers. College football with a Power 4 team has a low end of less than 1 million (0.3% of the US viewer market) and a high end of around 15 million (4.5% of the US viewer market). How much will that market cut back if more and more cities have no connection to college teams? I mostly watch other teams based on my interest in how UNLV can do on a national level, how many other people also are casual watchers at best like me? Cut out all of the fat leaving only 40 major schools, and you will likely also cut out much of the TV viewership and thus TV revenue. Am I wrong?

There is a difference

I watched some of that OSU game, and I feel like we will be well suited to play them. They're not a great passing team like Syracuse, but rely heavily on the run. They have a mobile QB, similar to UNLV, so the guys should be used to going against mobile QB's in practice, and therefore be able to carry that forward against Oregon State.
They might have just lost their starter in the backfield too. He got hurt in the CSU game.

We should be in better position to win in the next two games, our opponents are limited!
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Crickets

That's what I was thinking too. I think Dedan is fairly well known already, but maybe that's just a regional bias. I think UNLV is going to need both of those guys to step up big this season if we're going to finish in the top 3 in conference.
UNLV will need more than Whaley and DJ to be breakout players to save Kevin, who should have already been fired by now!

Crickets

UNLV just has to tread water for a couple of years. With SDSU, Boise and USU gone, UNLV is virtually guaranteed a top 3 spot in conference every single year with UNM and UNR. Fresno and CSU are two programs that pop up every 5 years or so to make an impact in conference and they’re gone.

Now if we can escape those pesky 40 point losses to AFA, UNLV basketball will be back on the map.

Sigh.

The future is bright.
This is why Grand Canyon should be a priority for basketball only, and football in the future. 120K students (25K on campus) can't all be wrong. The school has money to burn and that is why they have beat SDSU last year and went to the NCAA playoffs!

Why none of this may matter.

I see less risk, probably because I see the future without “big time” affiliation as death. I could easily be wrong though.

If you figure there are maybe 3 seats left at the table, how many teams have a legitimate shot at them?

Washington St, Oregon State? Maybe, but you’ve already got Washington and Oregon… do you really need those two?

Boise? Maybe, but Idaho? The whole state is less than 2 million.

SDSU? Meh. But maybe with the SD market?

Memphis? Likely it would seem, seems like a small market though relatively speaking.

UCONN? No idea really. Big bball name obviously. I’d say probably for the brand but Connecticut is about the same size as NV and I’m not sure how their markets are.

UNLV? No history other than bball, which has stunk for a while. But a larger market, albeit untapped, and Las Vegas brand.

I know there are maybe a couple others I didn’t mention, maybe USF and Tulane?

UNLVs not at the top of the list, but it’s not like leapfrogging a lot of those teams is out of the realm of possibility.
I agree and was thinking along the same lines. Las Vegas has a market and appeal that most places don't. We've shown in the past that we can have top basketball teams. We're trending much higher in football also and have top notch facilities.

And, its easy to get to from pretty much anywhere in the country

Why none of this may matter.

Yeah, I'm more in the camp of staying was the right call ultimately. We'll see. There are some risks with it as well.
I see less risk, probably because I see the future without “big time” affiliation as death. I could easily be wrong though.

If you figure there are maybe 3 seats left at the table, how many teams have a legitimate shot at them?

Washington St, Oregon State? Maybe, but you’ve already got Washington and Oregon… do you really need those two?

Boise? Maybe, but Idaho? The whole state is less than 2 million.

SDSU? Meh. But maybe with the SD market?

Memphis? Likely it would seem, seems like a small market though relatively speaking.

UCONN? No idea really. Big bball name obviously. I’d say probably for the brand but Connecticut is about the same size as NV and I’m not sure how their markets are.

UNLV? No history other than bball, which has stunk for a while. But a larger market, albeit untapped, and Las Vegas brand.

I know there are maybe a couple others I didn’t mention, maybe USF and Tulane?

UNLVs not at the top of the list, but it’s not like leapfrogging a lot of those teams is out of the realm of possibility.

Why none of this may matter.

Seems like a dumb plan honestly. IMO, the only ones that would want to do that are the ones that would fall in the top tier. Everyone else would be fighting an uphill battle if the top tier teams make 2-4 times more money than you do. At least now, for the most part, the schools that you're fighting it out against for the conference title are all getting the same money. But if you're in a big mega league, and the money is getting spread out in a different way, you could be getting 1/4 the amount of money as other teams in your league.

For discussion purposes, lets say that Colorado gets high marks for their consistently high TV viewership, so they get the top tier money. Meanwhile, Cincinnati, who is in the same conference, gets only 1/4 of the money that Colorado gets. In the long term, how is that sustainable for Cincinnati?

And even if this goes through, I actually think that it would hurt the overall viewership of that mega-league. I'm a bit stubborn, but I would likely stop watching all football games for teams that are in that league entirely. Kind of like the NBA. I have no interest anymore. If they start a separate league and only play against teams in it, then fine, but know that me and I'm sure many others like me will just stop watching it altogether.

What that would do to leagues like the MWC, PAC, AAC, etc is a big question. I think they'd still have a similar market, and depending on which broadcast companies get on board with the mega league, it could even open up other opportunities for the teams outside of this new league. My guess is that if this new league is putting this much money into it, they'd start their own network kind of like the Big10 network, Pac12 network, etc, have done in the past. If they did that, then maybe ESPN, ABC, Fox, CBS, etc, would go back to offering to get these other leagues media deals.

In the end, just lots of speculation and guesses. But I don't think it would destroy UNLV or any other programs in the long run as some are speculating.

Your first sentence said it all. (Not being snarky).

THE INs are the ones with the power to dictate all of this, so they would want it.

Not so much destroy as cheapen the product maybe?

The newest CFP system at least offers the G5 a seat at the table.

Not sure this set up would.

Why none of this may matter.

Seems like a dumb plan honestly. IMO, the only ones that would want to do that are the ones that would fall in the top tier. Everyone else would be fighting an uphill battle if the top tier teams make 2-4 times more money than you do. At least now, for the most part, the schools that you're fighting it out against for the conference title are all getting the same money. But if you're in a big mega league, and the money is getting spread out in a different way, you could be getting 1/4 the amount of money as other teams in your league.

For discussion purposes, lets say that Colorado gets high marks for their consistently high TV viewership, so they get the top tier money. Meanwhile, Cincinnati, who is in the same conference, gets only 1/4 of the money that Colorado gets. In the long term, how is that sustainable for Cincinnati?

And even if this goes through, I actually think that it would hurt the overall viewership of that mega-league. I'm a bit stubborn, but I would likely stop watching all football games for teams that are in that league entirely. Kind of like the NBA. I have no interest anymore. If they start a separate league and only play against teams in it, then fine, but know that me and I'm sure many others like me will just stop watching it altogether.

What that would do to leagues like the MWC, PAC, AAC, etc is a big question. I think they'd still have a similar market, and depending on which broadcast companies get on board with the mega league, it could even open up other opportunities for the teams outside of this new league. My guess is that if this new league is putting this much money into it, they'd start their own network kind of like the Big10 network, Pac12 network, etc, have done in the past. If they did that, then maybe ESPN, ABC, Fox, CBS, etc, would go back to offering to get these other leagues media deals.

In the end, just lots of speculation and guesses. But I don't think it would destroy UNLV or any other programs in the long run as some are speculating.
Ton of speculation for sure… and yeah, I agree with you that it could actually create some opportunities not yet seen.

Something bigger IS coming though and it’s coming sooner rather than later.

Why none of this may matter.

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All the realignment nonsense, arguments of go to the PAC don't go. Position ourselves for the BIG12 etc could be just wasted energy.


I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. But this isn't the first time something like this has been floated as an idea. Now there could be legs behind it (or something like it) if that type of money is getting thrown around. Not saying it will happen either. Only that it's a real possibility.

UNLV and the rest of the G5 would essentially get relegated to a subdivision, and play for their own Championship. But who would really care at that point.

If I'm reading this right the current model UNLV would be in? It's pretty convoluted with a relegation aspect to it. My God that's what they do in Europe and Soccer! They want to bring communism to America!
Seems like a dumb plan honestly. IMO, the only ones that would want to do that are the ones that would fall in the top tier. Everyone else would be fighting an uphill battle if the top tier teams make 2-4 times more money than you do. At least now, for the most part, the schools that you're fighting it out against for the conference title are all getting the same money. But if you're in a big mega league, and the money is getting spread out in a different way, you could be getting 1/4 the amount of money as other teams in your league.

For discussion purposes, lets say that Colorado gets high marks for their consistently high TV viewership, so they get the top tier money. Meanwhile, Cincinnati, who is in the same conference, gets only 1/4 of the money that Colorado gets. In the long term, how is that sustainable for Cincinnati?

And even if this goes through, I actually think that it would hurt the overall viewership of that mega-league. I'm a bit stubborn, but I would likely stop watching all football games for teams that are in that league entirely. Kind of like the NBA. I have no interest anymore. If they start a separate league and only play against teams in it, then fine, but know that me and I'm sure many others like me will just stop watching it altogether.

What that would do to leagues like the MWC, PAC, AAC, etc is a big question. I think they'd still have a similar market, and depending on which broadcast companies get on board with the mega league, it could even open up other opportunities for the teams outside of this new league. My guess is that if this new league is putting this much money into it, they'd start their own network kind of like the Big10 network, Pac12 network, etc, have done in the past. If they did that, then maybe ESPN, ABC, Fox, CBS, etc, would go back to offering to get these other leagues media deals.

In the end, just lots of speculation and guesses. But I don't think it would destroy UNLV or any other programs in the long run as some are speculating.

There is a difference

It sucked watching Jackson Woodard drop the interception near the end of the game that would have sealed the win. 9 out of 10 times he would have caught that interception, unfortunately this was the one out of ten. No doubt he is still kicking himself. My expectation is UNLV will be focused for the next three games. I would love to have UNLV playing Oregon State instead of Utah State this next game. Oregon State looked bad in a win against a really bad CSU team, it would be the perfect time to play them.
I watched some of that OSU game, and I feel like we will be well suited to play them. They're not a great passing team like Syracuse, but rely heavily on the run. They have a mobile QB, similar to UNLV, so the guys should be used to going against mobile QB's in practice, and therefore be able to carry that forward against Oregon State.

Syracuse ticket sales

I do not think it cost that much. If they opened up the entire next section, maybe, but they can open up section by section like they did for the Iowa State and MWC championship game. If they only opened the northern section 200, I am sure the cost is a lot lower.
That's what I was thinking. So you could either open up one of the endzone uppers, both endzones, or one of the sideline uppers, maybe on the UNLV side for optics. Regardless, it seems like it could be done for much less than 120k.

There is a difference

Not downplaying it.

But you have zero control over one. You have full control over the other.

Some fans - UNLV has never lost a game. It’s always the refs. Its a loser mentality.

Many fans, the game is too rough, need to clean it up. Calls like yesterday were not close to being considered penalties until sports became ultrapussified (not just football) … there’s the result … over calling things …

All that said, yes - bad calls matter. Last night, USU hoops last year. I think there was a brutal late hit/personal foul last year at AFA, but they overcame. UNLV DUKE 1991.

Look in the mirror first and foremost. The things you can’t control, that’s secondary IMO.
It sucked watching Jackson Woodard drop the interception near the end of the game that would have sealed the win. 9 out of 10 times he would have caught that interception, unfortunately this was the one out of ten. No doubt he is still kicking himself. My expectation is UNLV will be focused for the next three games. I would love to have UNLV playing Oregon State instead of Utah State this next game. Oregon State looked bad in a win against a really bad CSU team, it would be the perfect time to play them.
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