"They are floating reducing scholarships from 85 to 79 for football."
That's the opposite direction for FBS. The NCAA is allowing 20 additional scholarships - 105 - by the end of the '26 season.
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That's the opposite direction for FBS. The NCAA is allowing 20 additional scholarships - 105 - by the end of the '26 season.
Any new deal they get is going to be higher than what they were getting in the MW, but I’d argue that’s mostly due to inflation.
I just don’t think their value is really that high. Is CSU v USU going to have more viewers than SJSU v AFA? Not on any measurable scale that truly matters, IMHO.
Sports betting has changed the game and leveled the field in that regard considerably.
As of now they’ve only got 7 football teams, so any valuation is only based on that. Gonzaga was a good add for them, but not likely at the price they paid to get them. I’d argue that’s mostly due the value they get from adding Gonzaga is only going to be worth about half of what they’re paying, which means the other half is coming from the football media value.
Aside from Boise they really don’t have any “brands” to move the needle from a media rights standpoint. And even that is tentative… Boise has to stay relevant… what happens when someone poaches their coach next week and guys hit the portal? Doesn’t take much to take a step back and they’ve been awfully fortunate over the last decade or so.
Are they going to get more than the MW? Yes. Likely not going to be that much more than they would’ve gotten had they stayed and essentially forced the PAC 2 to merge.
We shall see though.
Danielson isn't getting poached. I think schools know he's not the real coach, lol. That's why his name didn't appear anywhere. Their OC runs the show in Boise and Danielson has ridden Jeanty and him to get to this point.
How can you say it is only due to inflation?
You may question their reasoning, but they did at least initially pick 4 of the top 6 markets from the MW and more importantly excluded all of the detractors. I think USU is a middle of the road MW market.
It is simple math. They will have a significantly better TV deal than us. What they ultimately get is hard to say. They will likely add one detractor to get to 8. If you have a wad of cash in one pocket and you take out all be 1 of the larger bills and put it in the other pocket, you won't have the same amount of money in each pocket.
We will luck out to get the same deal we are used to, and that is simply due to inflation. None of our additions move the needle in the right direction. I can see us getting less than our last contract with the recent moves.
Their brands may not be great, but they have more interest in those programs than we have had.
Apple TV offered the remaining PAC schools after USC/UCLA left 23 million per school.
That's Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Cal, ASU, UofA, Colorado, Utah, Washington State and Oregon State.
You're replacing those first 8 schools with Boise, SDSU, Fresno, USU, CSU and Gonzaga.
Not sure if that helps with speculation/forming an opinion on future PAC media deal or not.
Exactly! The gap between some of those schools are gigantic, and that's not using recency bias.
Actually they turned down a 30 mil deal from ESPN after the LA schools left.
So how low were OSU and WAZZU's value to drop the overall value of that deal.
Well the big 10 and big 12 thought those schools were worth about 30 mil a piece. Neither conference thought that the remaining 2 schools were but there is no way they are worth less than 10 each on average. The math doesn't make sense if they were.
Now those schools are obviously worth less now tham with the others but I think many are really undervaluing their media worth.
Follow the money. The Pac 2 said no to merger for a reason and it wasn't just pride. They broke off because they knew they would make more even with potentially high up front costs.
Obviously things did not go as planned, but there is no way they are worth anything near what the new MW will be. We have some really poor markets and I think that will hurt us down the road.
I think the base deal, before the playoff sharing money at least double. Probably more.
But we will see.
Obviously who the last add will make a difference. Even if they add a team worth zero it will be notably better than the base MW deal.
Its more of ESPN offered $31m, and then Pac opened negotiations with a $50m counteroffer. Espn then completely withdrew their bid and walked away.
