j. spilotro said:

Not downplaying it.

But you have zero control over one. You have full control over the other.

Some fans - UNLV has never lost a game. It’s always the refs. Its a loser mentality.

Many fans, the game is too rough, need to clean it up. Calls like yesterday were not close to being considered penalties until sports became ultrapussified (not just football) … there’s the result … over calling things …

All that said, yes - bad calls matter. Last night, USU hoops last year. I think there was a brutal late hit/personal foul last year at AFA, but they overcame. UNLV DUKE 1991.

Look in the mirror first and foremost. The things you can’t control, that’s secondary IMO.

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It sucked watching Jackson Woodard drop the interception near the end of the game that would have sealed the win. 9 out of 10 times he would have caught that interception, unfortunately this was the one out of ten. No doubt he is still kicking himself. My expectation is UNLV will be focused for the next three games. I would love to have UNLV playing Oregon State instead of Utah State this next game. Oregon State looked bad in a win against a really bad CSU team, it would be the perfect time to play them.

saulpaul21 said:

Nice pile of cash with no chance to "move up" means we are really an fcs school. No reason for the investment we have made in sports. Special place in hell for unlv administrators that wasted decades of opportunity that would leave us outside of the cool kids club.

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Yeah well right next to them will be the 'Sam Boyd is to far I can't be bothered with it, I'll show up when the win' contingency of fans.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Hmmm. Seems like a lot. But then again I've never been there. Looks like you can't get from the 100 level to the 200 level so they have to open up a separate concourse? But if some of the suites are being used isn't it open anyway?

But, no matter. Get more fans, if the metrics are there.

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I do not think it cost that much. If they opened up the entire next section, maybe, but they can open up section by section like they did for the Iowa State and MWC championship game. If they only opened the northern section 200, I am sure the cost is a lot lower.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

I thought six, but you could be right...

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Six was probably pretty close. The had a lot of fans on the west side, but otherwise only a few in other areas. The interesting thing is that the stadium sold out in the lower section to the point they had shut down the sale of any more tickets about a half hour before the game started. My guess is not enough sales to justify the cost to open up part of the upper section.

Meister_Rebel said:

UNLV and AF would certainly come out ahead with all our bonus money for staying in the MW. So, let it happen. If we aren't the top 70 at least we will have a nice pile of cash.

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Nice pile of cash with no chance to "move up" means we are really an fcs school. No reason for the investment we have made in sports. Special place in hell for unlv administrators that wasted decades of opportunity that would leave us outside of the cool kids club.

oneepstein said:

It’s coming and it’s sobering. It’s part of, if not the main reason, I support the move that UNLV made. 6 to 10 years from now is too late and won’t matter… the next several do though and having the extra resources matters a ton.

Will it be enough? Who knows, but it’s a shot.

Had we gone to or merged with the PAC we’d be very short on resources to operate within a condensed time frame.

There are 3 spots available (if 70) for teams outside the AQ4. Are we in the 3 now? No. Can we be? Might be a longer shot than we’d like but I still think there’s a shot. Has to be “all in” now.

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Yeah, I'm more in the camp of staying was the right call ultimately. We'll see. There are some risks with it as well.

If college football is run by ex Disney execs.. God help us.

oneepstein said:

It’s coming and it’s sobering. It’s part of, if not the main reason, I support the move that UNLV made. 6 to 10 years from now is too late and won’t matter… the next several do though and having the extra resources matters a ton.

Will it be enough? Who knows, but it’s a shot.

Had we gone to or merged with the PAC we’d be very short on resources to operate within a condensed time frame.

There are 3 spots available (if 70) for teams outside the AQ4. Are we in the 3 now? No. Can we be? Might be a longer shot than we’d like but I still think there’s a shot. Has to be “all in” now.

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Should have been all in years ago but what's the point in rehashing all the missteps.

Although I will say I remember posting stuff about Football on the confidential board when I first joined years and years ago and being told by many a poster to take it to the football board 'we're a basketball school. Nobody cares about football.'

Whelp! I tried to warn folks...Fans were just as shortsighted and naive as any AD we've had.

Rant over.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

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All the realignment nonsense, arguments of go to the PAC don't go. Position ourselves for the BIG12 etc could be just wasted energy.


I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. But this isn't the first time something like this has been floated as an idea. Now there could be legs behind it (or something like it) if that type of money is getting thrown around. Not saying it will happen either. Only that it's a real possibility.

UNLV and the rest of the G5 would essentially get relegated to a subdivision, and play for their own Championship. But who would really care at that point.

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It’s coming and it’s sobering. It’s part of, if not the main reason, I support the move that UNLV made. 6 to 10 years from now is too late and won’t matter… the next several do though and having the extra resources matters a ton.

Will it be enough? Who knows, but it’s a shot.

Had we gone to or merged with the PAC we’d be very short on resources to operate within a condensed time frame.

There are 3 spots available (if 70) for teams outside the AQ4. Are we in the 3 now? No. Can we be? Might be a longer shot than we’d like but I still think there’s a shot. Has to be “all in” now.

Meister_Rebel said:

UNLV and AF would certainly come out ahead with all our bonus money for staying in the MW. So, let it happen. If we aren't the top 70 at least we will have a nice pile of cash.

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Thats the thing though. If you aren't that money means nothing. I need to read this in more detail to get a full understanding.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

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All the realignment nonsense, arguments of go to the PAC don't go. Position ourselves for the BIG12 etc could be just wasted energy.


I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. But this isn't the first time something like this has been floated as an idea. Now there could be legs behind it (or something like it) if that type of money is getting thrown around. Not saying it will happen either. Only that it's a real possibility.

UNLV and the rest of the G5 would essentially get relegated to a subdivision, and play for their own Championship. But who would really care at that point.

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UNLV and AF would certainly come out ahead with all our bonus money for staying in the MW. So, let it happen. If we aren't the top 70 at least we will have a nice pile of cash.

saulpaul21 said:

Could Whaley be another breakout canidate from unlv?

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That's what I was thinking too. I think Dedan is fairly well known already, but maybe that's just a regional bias. I think UNLV is going to need both of those guys to step up big this season if we're going to finish in the top 3 in conference.

Could Whaley be another breakout canidate from unlv?

I thought we got concession revenues which would offset the cost of the 2nd level, but after reading into it I am not sure if we do or not.

TheMatrix31 said:

It cost $120,000 for UNLV to open the 200 level at Allegiant. The demand has to be there for them to open it up

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Hmmm. Seems like a lot. But then again I've never been there. Looks like you can't get from the 100 level to the 200 level so they have to open up a separate concourse? But if some of the suites are being used isn't it open anyway?

But, no matter. Get more fans, if the metrics are there.

LVRebel2000 said:

Exactly. We still control our own destiny. We don't necessarily have to beat Boise twice to win the MWC tournament title. But if the goal is to get to the CFB playoffs, UNLV probably has to win out, which is possible but pretty unlikely.

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If we only beat BSU once we have to make sure it is the right once.

Stoker016 said:

Yup. For us to sniff the AP top 25 again, we need to win the next 2, BSU needs to win theirs, and we have to beat them. That's it as far as chances at top 25 go. Should we drop the BSU game, we could maybe sneak in end of year if we win out after Boise. We'll see. Just beat USU. That's it.

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Exactly. We still control our own destiny. We don't necessarily have to beat Boise twice to win the MWC tournament title. But if the goal is to get to the CFB playoffs, UNLV probably has to win out, which is possible but pretty unlikely.

LVRebel2000 said:

Is that to open the entire thing, and have all of the food and beverage options open? I'm sure you could just open parts of it, as they did against Boise last year and only open a portion of the F&B stuff.

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Gotta believe it’s an all or nothing type of deal. Last year was also the MW champ game so I’m sure the conference attributed to the cost

Boston Rebel 2 said:

Especially AP where we got no votes. If we win we will get back in. But we will have our hands full.

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Yup. For us to sniff the AP top 25 again, we need to win the next 2, BSU needs to win theirs, and we have to beat them. That's it as far as chances at top 25 go. Should we drop the BSU game, we could maybe sneak in end of year if we win out after Boise. We'll see. Just beat USU. That's it.

Stoker016 said:

I don't think going 2-0 on this road stretch will get us back in. I do think it'll have us knocking on the door again, and should we beat BSU at home, who will be top 13 at that point, we will get in and stay in the rest of the way.

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Especially AP where we got no votes. If we win we will get back in. But we will have our hands full.

oneepstein said:

I go back to our first series and the decision to air it out straight out of the gate… I mean of the catch is made, great! But it was wholly unnecessary and essentially gave them possession of the ball to start both halves. A nice opening drive of “doing what you do” and possibly scoring that way might have set a different tone and put pressure on them to “keep up”. Pressure = forcing mistakes.

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So, I don't mind the deep short on first down. It keeps those safeties honest. But I've watched this play a lot, and I think they were ready for us to take a big shot deep.

Cuse came out in a 3-3 big nickel double mug look with 7 in the box in a cover 1 shell. After the snap it looks like they're breaking into a cover two man. The LBs that don't blitz stay in 'man' vs the RBs for the first 2 counts until they read pass. But it's all a disguise, they're playing a Tampa 2 variant with the deep safety stepping into the middle zone and the backside corner getting to the back half. The backers and SS stay under and play it match up style with one backer following Ballunguy on the under cross, and the shallow weak side backer dropping back into the middle zone to take away the RW11 deep cross and the FS stepping up to take away the over throw. But Hajj never looks to the defensive left, he's read cover one and sees the deep safety step up. He thinks that's 100% a home run on the deep post and never bothers to look backside to see the strong side corner hustling back to help deep. He's so enamored with his read that he takes an extra 2 steps on his drop and waits--still never peaks backside. Really, with a good throw here we're going to still beat that coverage as the DB is late getting back on the strong half deep zone, but Hajj throws up a lofted ball with enough air under it that the DB can close meaning he's throwing it into double coverage. But if we're being totally fair, this route concept was clearly designed for man with a cover 2 behind. against what is basically a staggered cover 3 it's a bad play call.

Also, Jet for some reason leaks out of the backfield and gets into a blocking position and breaks down likes he's going to block which really adds nothing...running a texas or drag route here would have been a nice gainer as the there was going to be a big hole in the middle zone thanks to Ricky's gravity.

I just wish I had the all-22 view as maybe Bradley was running a skinny post--that would explain the lofted ball more.

TheMatrix31 said:

It cost $120,000 for UNLV to open the 200 level at Allegiant. The demand has to be there for them to open it up

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Is that to open the entire thing, and have all of the food and beverage options open? I'm sure you could just open parts of it, as they did against Boise last year and only open a portion of the F&B stuff.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Beat USU and Oregon State they'll be back in top 25. USU can move the ball ok but defensively they've not been very good. If ever there was a game where the Rebels should be able to line up and dictate with the ground game this is it.

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I don't think going 2-0 on this road stretch will get us back in. I do think it'll have us knocking on the door again, and should we beat BSU at home, who will be top 13 at that point, we will get in and stay in the rest of the way.

j. spilotro said:

I logged in as bull the other day. and a couple of other people. Don’t know what’s going on.

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I've been multiple people as well.

I WISH I could log in as Bull just one time. I'd turn this board upside down! He'd have to walk back statements for months!