Rebel1986 said:

It is based on the rank of the champion of each conference.

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So (hypothetically) if the #14 BYU team wins the Big XII they're a top 4 seed and get a bye. It doesn't matter that they're #14. Conf Champ gets a top 4 seed.

reagan21 said:

I thought the P4 champions are auto top 4 bids regardless where the G5 is ranked. That's why (until Saturday) BYU was a 4 seed in the CFP even though they were 6th in the rankings.

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It is based on the rank of the champion of each conference.

reagan21 said:

In Utah's delusional minds they are Big10 bound and the BigXII was always a 10 minute parking spot until the invitation comes. We'd just slide into that Utah spot if that (never will) ever happens.

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I'm not sure we even need that to happen to be honest. Considering BIG12 lost their two biggest brands Yormark has done a very good job of acquiring inventory without diluting the product too much.

He's about acquiring big markets when he can. (Cincy/Ucf/Houston) There's a reason he didn't just scoop up OSU and WSU. Decent programs seemed an easy enough move. But I think he prefers adding the bigger markets vs 'brands'. Could have added Boise at any time never did. Flirted with SDSU until SDSU turned down invite because of smaller share.

reagan21 said:

I think it still means a lot for the players, and they do love Skipper.

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I think Tim Skipper is a great recruiter. By all accounts a very very good position coach. Comes across as a genuinely good human being.

But his stint here as DC was underwhelming to say the least. And he's not exactly lighting it up at Fresno right now.

Not sure he has that job next year.

Hoping he can pull this one off.

And we handle our business.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

I was pretty doubtful of any Big 12 chances

But there is enough smoke now I think it's about even money.

I could see Big12 add Uconn in the East to help Cincy/WVU and to some degree UCF with a travel partner. Plus add a massive markets for basketball.

Then out West add UNLV to help out ASU, UofA Utah and BYU with travel and adding another large market.

Add to that he'd be planting another flag in Big10 country (USC/UCLA) and PAC territory...

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In Utah's delusional minds they are Big10 bound and the BigXII was always a 10 minute parking spot until the invitation comes. We'd just slide into that Utah spot if that (never will) ever happens.

TimothyC3 said:

Just win out! The perception of the UNLV program is rapidly changIng. The commissioner of the Big 12 at the football media day at Allegiant stated as follows:

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I was pretty doubtful of any Big 12 chances

But there is enough smoke now I think it's about even money.

I could see Big12 add Uconn in the East to help Cincy/WVU and to some degree UCF with a travel partner. Plus add a massive markets for basketball.

Then out West add UNLV to help out ASU, UofA Utah and BYU with travel and adding another large market.

Add to that he'd be planting another flag in Big10 country (USC/UCLA) and PAC territory...

Boston Rebel 2 said:

Right now BSU is rated ahead of Colorado. If that holds true and if they win the conference they will end up with a first round bye. Wouldn't that be something.

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I thought the P4 champions are auto top 4 bids regardless where the G5 is ranked. That's why (until Saturday) BYU was a 4 seed in the CFP even though they were 6th in the rankings.

reagan21 said:

Did you see that horrible excessive call in the Titans/Vikings game yesterday? Vikings player is in the literal endzone about to catch a TD, he's hit immediately as he touches the ball and it's jarred loose. The hit was PERFECTLY legal and was the reason he didn't catch the TD. Flags came in from every angle for unnecessary roughness. It was 4th and goal.....new set of downs.

I'm not sure what the refs wanted the DB to do in that position

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The NFL refs blow goats with these dumb ass penalty calls. Either that or the NFL does in making them enforce the rules in that way. Either way one of them is an expert in goat blowing.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

I wonder how much 'bowl eligibility' means to Fresno. They're more of a conference title or bust program. Just being bowl eligible 'beneath' their standard.

Maybe they circle the wagons for Tim Skipper. He's popular with players but these results have to have Feesno Admin thinking about going a different route.

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I think it still means a lot for the players, and they do love Skipper.

WarthogRebel said:

It's a result of the pussification of society in general.

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Did you see that horrible excessive call in the Titans/Vikings game yesterday? Vikings player is in the literal endzone about to catch a TD, he's hit immediately as he touches the ball and it's jarred loose. The hit was PERFECTLY legal and was the reason he didn't catch the TD. Flags came in from every angle for unnecessary roughness. It was 4th and goal.....new set of downs. What was excessive about that? They wanted him to use less roughness? If he uses less, he catches a TD on 4th and goal. It's terrible.

I'm not sure what the refs wanted the DB to do in that position

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dcut03 said:

I agree, in a way it is almost better that UNLV is not in the conference if they want their conference championship there.

But I have to believe that there is actual interest in UNLV. I don't think we turn down the PAC if there wasn't something there from conversations with B12.

This meeting happened before this season, where we are ranked in the top 25, we have a path to the playoffs, and we are 2-0 against B12 teams.

There is meat on this bone.

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I certainly hope so. I feel the current AD is better than recent past so there is that.

reagan21 said:

I agree, but it's on the road. I think USU has a better chance to beat them in Fort Collins than Fresno at home. However, Fresno is looking for 1 more win to become bowl eligible so I guess they have that to play for. Their last game is @UCLA so I doubt they want that game to be their last shot at a bowl.

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I wonder how much 'bowl eligibility' means to Fresno. They're more of a conference title or bust program. Just being bowl eligible 'beneath' their standard.

Maybe they circle the wagons for Tim Skipper. He's popular with players but these results have to have Feesno Admin thinking about going a different route.

Rebel1986 said:

unr game still has a couple of weeks to sell tickets, and they have already sold at least a few thousand more than the SDSU game, my expectation is 40K plus if they win on the road. If CSU finds a way to lose one of the next two games before UNLV plays unr, then I could see 45K+.

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I don't think the casual fan knows that we need CSU to lose or the importance of it. We'll get the same for UNR regardless if CSU loses on Friday or not.

My plan is to go to the UNR game and either take +4 or +10 depending if my sister and her family come down from Utah for Thanksgiving.

reagan21 said:

I'd take that +3, but let's go Bulldogs!!!!

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I'd be highly tempted to bet CSU straight up.

Fresno being at home give me some hope.

Not much though.

InZoneU said:

More than VGK.

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#GoKings

I'd take that +3, but let's go Bulldogs!!!!

Rebel_Luv said:

Nm

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This is truly surprising to me, to be honest. I'll take it, but wowza

Bullmastiff 1 said:

I don't have much faith in Fresno State at this point.

Jay Norvell deserves a lot of credit for what he's doing this year. Completely changed. the offense from 'air raid' to a physical run game and grinding out wins.

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I agree, but it's on the road. I think USU has a better chance to beat them in Fort Collins than Fresno at home. However, Fresno is looking for 1 more win to become bowl eligible so I guess they have that to play for. Their last game is @UCLA so I doubt they want that game to be their last shot at a bowl.

Boston Rebel 2 said:

Rasputin.

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Aaaahahahahahahahaha

reagan21 said:

That's the hope

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I don't have much faith in Fresno State at this point.

Jay Norvell deserves a lot of credit for what he's doing this year. Completely changed. the offense from 'air raid' to a physical run game and grinding out wins.

Rebel Girls & Co. - 31
Will Ferrell and Cheri Oteri - 27

We can and should keep the ball on the ground. They are horrible against the run. We should be able to go over 200 yards against them. Control the TOP and keep Nash and Lockhart off the field as much as we can. They throw the ball on a higher percentage of plays than any other team in FBS, almost 67% of the time. That scares me, so limiting their play total is a good way to play defense.

Buffel said:

HOW CAN WE SQEEZE BY Hawaii by 2 points and Utah st. Be up 45-3?

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Match ups.

Travel (Us/Hawaii)

It's not uncommon.

We crushed Houston, stole a game against Kansas, Kansas crushes Houston, Houston beats a ranked KSU who beat Kansas..

Buffel said:

Hopefully Utah st. plays this well again Colorado st.

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That's the hope

Buffel said:

HOW CAN WE SQEEZE BY Hawaii by 2 points and Utah st. Be up 45-3?

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Hey, kids who live in Hawaii year round....go play football at 5000 ft above sea level in 38 degree Logan, UT a couple hours after they had freezing rain. That's how.

Also the refs took 14 points off our board on bogus flags. They changed the feel an momentum in that game in the 1Q.