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How the MW is making payments to us

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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Explain this to me like I'm 5..

Is this still good or bad for UNLV..
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Nothing has really changed as far as totals that I can tell. This is a more complete breakdown of the payments to us and when we would see them. What's new is #5 in that we didn't know about that distribution.

The other thing. Good or Bad. Is Gloria will be in town.
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How the MW is making payments to us

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dcut03 said:
So our base media contract is 3.5 mil? Does the 5-6 mil that is reported include all of the additional funds like the CFP money?
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Yeah, that base media contract we were always told was almost $4 million. The $5-6 million must include the CFP and Tourney payouts which we don't have to share with the traitors. I'm also assuming that $3.5 million is just for the current media contract. It could go up or may go down for the next one. Who knows at this point.
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I just read today that the MWC Headquarters is moving to Las Vegas and leaving Colorado Springs. As soon as their HQ lease ends they will make the move and plan on staying at least through 2032.

In the "Agreement" we signed to stay in the MW. The $3.5 million media distribution will not change. If they have to the MW will utilize "a combination of revenue sources to maintain that distribution".

The MW members will have no obligations financially if they are picked up by a P4 conference.

Finance: They say they will be getting close to $150 million from the exiting schools and the poaching fees. So the order of payouts will look like this:

1. $61 million divided and given to the schools in the uneven percentages.
2. $18 million held in reserve for recruiting new schools
3. $21 million divided and given to the schools in the same uneven percentages.
4. Lawyers fees will be paid.
5. Anything left after the lawyers get paid will be divided as such: 15.83 percent for the six full members and 5 percent to Hawaii.

The article says that the payouts will begin on July 1, 2026 when the traitors leave and pay their exit fees. Interesting because I thought we were getting our share next year.

Edit: Link to the article: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/58...tain-west-memo-realignment-unlv/?redirected=1
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UNLV v Syracuse viewership

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The UNLV v Syracuse game on FS1 had a viewership of 698K. In comparison the game against Fresno State on FS1 had 174K viewers; The game on ESPN v Kansas had 1.32 million viewers; The game verse Houston on FS1 had 172K viewers. ESPN ratings are always much higher than FS1, so the game against Kansas can not really be compared, but compared to the other FS1 games, this was a nice ratings boost for UNLV. There have been a total of 22 games listed on FS1 through this season. The UNLV v Syracuse game was the 4th highest rated game on FS1. The highest rated FS1 game was Rutgers v Nebraska 1.03 million viewers. The Washington State v Boise State game has 535 K viewers. The average number of viewers for games on FS1 was 426K per game.

From what I can read regarding Syracuse overall viewership and ACC network ratings, they averaged around 703K viewers last year without a single game outside of the ACC network prior to UNLV, and only two games listed on national networks for the remainder of the year. Last year most of there games had under 500K viewers with the exception of a couple of big games that had over a million viewers.

In comparison to other games of the day: Pittsburgh v North Carolina on ESPN2 had 645K viewers; West Virginia v Oklahoma State on ESPN2 had 634K viewers; Purdue Wisconsin on BTN had 588K viewers; USC v Minnesota on BTN had 701K viewers; Rutgers v Nebraska on FS1 had 1.03 million viewers.

It should also be noted that UNLV v Syracuse game was going up against:
Michigan State v Oregon on FOX had 2.84 million viewers
Houston v TCU on ESPN 1.51 million viewers (similar numbers to the UNLV v Kansas game also on a Friday on ESPN)
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Why none of this may matter.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:
I just wouldn't care anymore honestly. Without a 'relegation/promotion' aspect why would boosters care anymore or donate for the other 'championship'. Unless the money is so astronomical to pass up, why would a school like Vany or Illinois or ASU agree to a system where they could get demoted?
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That's my point with regards to this plan. The people planning this think they're going to capture the whole CFB tv market, but I feel like they would actually significantly decrease it. And why would the bottom 2/3 of the 70 teams agree to this? They'd probably be better off teaming up and saying screw off. Worst case would be those top 16 or so schools try to break off and form their own league. If that's the case.
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Why none of this may matter.

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What is interesting with all of this is what are they looking for with inclusion to the "haves". Are they looking at media value only, or are they trying to get the 70 best teams?
I think it may be tough to exclude bad teams in good conferences, but they could?

As for us going or staying when it comes to the PAC, I doubt that would have any bearing in being invited to the big boy table. If they downgrade teams and upgrade teams, it will not matter if we are in the PAC or MW. The new PAC teams do not need to be kicking themselves now. The Superconference will take any team they want regardless of conference.
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Why none of this may matter.

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oneepstein said:
Without go back to the article, the dispersion amounts for the various tiers were still a lot more than the existing payouts. It compared the tiers to current conferences and the payouts were like double.

Also, there are 67 teams in AQs, but then you have to add Notre Dame… so 68.
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I suspect the 70 number came when Wazzu and Oregon St. were included. Sadly for them, no more.
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Why none of this may matter.

Bullmastiff 1
j. spilotro said:
Not nearly as much, but March Madness lost a little bit of oomph for me when they started adding more teams.

But to be honest, UNLV not being even close had a lot to do with it too.

If we don’t have any opportunity whatsoever, no matter how unrealistic … to compete with the big boys, yeah, feels really lame.
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I just wouldn't care anymore honestly. Without a 'relegation/promotion' aspect why would boosters care anymore or donate for the other 'championship'. Unless the money is so astronomical to pass up, why would a school like Vany or Illinois or ASU agree to a system where they could get demoted?
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Day after….

dcut03
Rebel1986 said:
If Army wins out, then it is very possible they would take them over UNLV, but they would need to beat Notre Dame, and I find it highly unlikely they will be even competitive with Notre Dame. Outside of Notre Dame, they play are fairly week schedule. Navy also plays Notre Dame which puts them in the same boat. Then both teams would need to win every game left and then the winner between the two would have the possibility of both being ranked and the representative of the G5. The issue is if Notre Dame lost to one it would drop them a long way, if they lost to both of these teams, it wouldn't be considered a good win.
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If they Beat UND that will help their SOS. Them playing each other after champ week is a good thing, I wonder if the CFP would wait for that game to pick the brackets or not? I can see that extra game taking a team out of the conversation.

I mean it is only fair that all participants have played all of their regular season games to pick a CFP contender
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Why none of this may matter.

oneepstein
LVRebel2000 said:
The article states that even within the 70 schools though, they would have tiers, with the top group getting significantly more money than tier two, and tier three.
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Without go back to the article, the dispersion amounts for the various tiers were still a lot more than the existing payouts. It compared the tiers to current conferences and the payouts were like double.

Also, there are 67 teams in AQs, but then you have to add Notre Dame… so 68.
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Why none of this may matter.

Rebel1986
j. spilotro said:
If raising awareness, rallying people, etc …. Made any difference whatsoever …. Then you do that. But it doesn’t. We don’t control what’s going to happen, it’s bigger than us individually or collectively.

So you’re with, enjoy any good that there is … the rest will play out.
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If the football system is rebuilt, there are a lot of teams in the power 4 conferences that would also be left on the sideline. Higly unlikely that teams like Northwestern, Vanderbilt, California, Stanford, West Virginia, Cincinnati, UCF, TCU, Purdue, Rutgers, etc. would still be part of the final group. My expectation is that ultimately the teams in control like Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia, USC, etc. will continue to be greedy and ultimately destroy the media cash flow due to more and more areas of the country losing interest in watching these games when they involve regional teams from other areas of the country that are of no interest outside of those areas. Considering less than 5 percent of potential viewers watch the top rated college football games, they do not really have a lot of wiggle room before funds will start to dry up. More and more people have walked away from cable and traditional TV, and now it is becoming much more common to pay for streaming services, but how many people are going to be willing to pay for streaming services to watch teams that do not interest them?
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Day after….

Rebel1986
dcut03 said:
Well if win out and our SOS is much better. They should and they will
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If Army wins out, then it is very possible they would take them over UNLV, but they would need to beat Notre Dame, and I find it highly unlikely they will be even competitive with Notre Dame. Outside of Notre Dame, they play are fairly week schedule. Navy also plays Notre Dame which puts them in the same boat. Then both teams would need to win every game left and then the winner between the two would have the possibility of both being ranked and the representative of the G5. The issue is if Notre Dame lost to one it would drop them a long way, if they lost to both of these teams, it wouldn't be considered a good win.
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Why none of this may matter.

Bullmastiff 1
Mojo702 said:
I watched the Wrexham (soccer) series on Netflix and quite enjoyed it with the whole relegation aspect of it. They were able to move up 2 divisions in 3 years after being in the lowest division for 15 years. Some time ago, they were in the 2nd highest division (Champions League) for a while and had a number of bad seasons dropping them down to the lowest.
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I'm sorry last I checked this was America where we talk about Football, not some game played by foppish Brits.
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Syracuse ticket sales

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TheMatrix31 said:
It cost $120,000 for UNLV to open the 200 level at Allegiant. The demand has to be there for them to open it up
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As a former worker at Allegiant I would be shocked if it cost an extra $120k to open the north 200 sections, an extra 15 or so security and guest services would only be an extra $2-3k in payroll costs, so I doubt Allegiant would try to screw that much money out of UNLV.
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