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It is a defeatist attitude. But they’ve given fans zero to hold onto.

Face it, in terms of (basketball) excitement, attendance, achievement, we are at our lowest continual stretch and still surviving as an athletic department. They don’t HAVE to commit to basketball. They don’t HAVE to pump money into it. If they don’t, who is going to complain? There are very few left. From a nostalgic/historic standpoint, it’s terrible to think about but the past isn’t recent history, it’s ancient history, but most of those from the past are no longer there, no longer interested. It’s a new day, the new history is we aren’t anything but a mediocre program with little fanfare and low expectations. We can meet those demands easily, it’s bare bone minimums.

The crossing of the fingers and allowing for potential “slow growth” to materialize has led to a slow death.

They’ll pop up now and again and grab that 13 seed like most other schools in our conference have done from time to time. And if UNLV wants that to be good enough, it will be good enough.

Soon we will be a one/two bid conference. I don’t see a reason to pump in 2.5M per year for that opportunity. A lot of money for a bad schedule and 3 days in March. The money is better allocated into football. It’s hot, that’s the right time to strike it.

I’d give a two year extension at the same salary for hoops and divert all monies to football.
I have saved alot of money not taking days off to watch this mediocre basketball the last several years. I work swing and on tips. So thats the only positive thing i seens in MBB the last 5 plus years. That and DJ signing with us. I heard his brother might be following in his footsteps. Dont quote me, but a reliable source. \
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UNLV v Boise State

Just to be clear, the TEAM needs to take it one game at a time. As fans, it is our privilege; nay, our duty, to look ahead, speculate and make ridiculous wild predictions. We too can become regular fans. We just aren’t used to it.
In my mind, we have already beaten BSU twice and play Tennessee in the CFP where we killed them by 76 pts.

UNLV v Boise State

My guess is Boise is bringing a big number. A win there basically secures them a spot in the CFB playoff.
They don't play another particularly good team after us. at SJSU and vs Oregon State are the toughest two remaining. But they will have to win the MWC championship to get that spot. Unless they get high enough to hit an at large, and I have a hard time imagining they will be in the top5, which is where they will need to be to lose a game at the end of the year and not fall beyond 11 or 12.
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Percentage isn’t the best way to look at things. Some coaches schedule tough, some moderate, some easy. And conference always fluctuates with difficulty.

The fans react to … whatever it is …. And that’s the best way to feel the pulse of the program. It takes everything into consideration, including outside influences, which the program/university has nothing to do with, but it’s something they have to contend with.

Attendance, atmosphere, passion … not completely perfect, but the best barometer of where the program is. If fans aren’t showing up, if fans aren’t talking, if the home atmosphere is stagnant air …. As a program, you’re flailing.

Basketball is closer to Hauck era football (in terms of excitement) than it was to even Spoonhour. True, better players under Spoon, closer to the Tark era so you have hangers on …. But it doesn’t change where we are at now.
Not saying that he is playing a decent schedule, or that the percentage makes a difference, just saying all the coaches have more or less sucked since his dad, who many didn't want to stay around at the time, and we either need to give him the entire season to improve, or the AD should have removed him at the beginning of the season. I see picking one program or the other to put all the money into, in this case football, is a defeatist attitude that I do not believe will be the direction the AD takes the basketball program in at the end of the season.

I believe that the President and AD have told Kruger that he either needs to make the NCAA tournament or he will likely be gone just like Arroyo was gone. I think they will put the same effort into moving basketball forward as football has been provided over the last two seasons. The fact that Grand Canyon became Div 1 in basketball in 2013 and eligible for post season in 2017, and then made the tournament in 2021-2024 says a lot about the need to either win immediately or replace Kruger at the end of the season, but not to keep basketball as a second class program.

As a side note, they need to bring Grand Canyon into the conference for basketball and all other sports which would meet the NCAA requirement as a full time member even without a football program.
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How the MW is making payments to us

SMU's fees (along with Houston, and the others that went to the Big 12) were only negotiated because that's the way their conference bylaws are written. It says it is a $10 million dollar fee if you leave with a 27 month notice (Believe that's what it was but I'd have to double check). If it is shorter than 27 months, then it's a negotiated fee. All of those schools that left paid much more than $10 million.

The MW has very specific criteria and fees. I'd be shocked if those were negotiated down. The poaching fee could be a different story though
But it was negotiated from SOMETHING we just don't know what that is.

I'm sure there is a written amount for leaving earlier than 27 months. It is probably based off of the remaining contract amounts. They didn't just randomly pick 27.5 mil.

4 other teams(including Houston) left for the big 12 around the same time from the same conference and agreed to 18mil a piece. SMU had less leverage as an individual team, and it was after the other 4 had announced their departure. They also may have bad lawyers.

It seems like a group of teams have more power either way.

Look at what we know. 50 mil is unaccounted for. 50 mil! Why in the hell are they not already allocating all of that money to specific spots if they thing they are going to get it. They have already allocated money for new acquitisitons.

Why is the MW so special?

I certainly thought that the PAC 2 was going to get every last penny of their 100 mil after what they went through last year and didn't
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How the MW is making payments to us

Again I don't know why it happens, but it happens nearly every time. Even SMU's 27.5 fees were "negotiated".
Is the MW that special? Do they have special language that prohibits this? Maybe.
But I didn't know why the PAC 2 got negotiated down from 100 mil to 50 plus 500K extra per team. They got screwed more than any other league and they took it in the chin.
I'm not saying it is impossible, I am just pointing out that it happens every time. Especially when it is multiple teams at the same time.

I also think that there are many indicators to support that claim in this case. The range of money we were promised to us and everyone else, the 50 million still unaccounted for in the projections, etc.

Even if the MW thought that all the money was practically guaranteed, why is is there such a big cushion? 33% of the total funds?

Gloria will fight it, but it isn't up to her I imagine. I don't think that these other conferences gave teams huge gifts of money, teams that severely hurt their league's earning potential, just out of the kindness of their hearts.

Again, I think our fees are so high, and they are way high, simply to jack up the starting price of the inevitable negotiations that will inevitably happen.
SMU's fees (along with Houston, and the others that went to the Big 12) were only negotiated because that's the way their conference bylaws are written. It says it is a $10 million dollar fee if you leave with a 27 month notice (Believe that's what it was but I'd have to double check). If it is shorter than 27 months, then it's a negotiated fee. All of those schools that left paid much more than $10 million.

The MW has very specific criteria and fees. I'd be shocked if those were negotiated down. The poaching fee could be a different story though
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