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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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dcut03 said:
You aren't getting 7 mil again after you lose your 4 best teams/markets. Even less if you get poached again.
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Yup...There's a clause ESPN will certainly use if Memphis and Tulane leave to withdraw from the contract. It was specifically added to keep from over paying for bad product. You think the MWC deal was bad, wait till you see the deal an AAC without Houston, UCONN, UCF, Cincy, Tulane, and Memphis gets... we'd be better off staying in a new MWC that adds a few teams and building our programs into super powers...
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dcut03 said:
Memphis and Tulane? Yes. I buy that. And that well documented.
UTSA makes since. Not as good competitively, but a good market in TX.
Texas State? That is a stretch. Bad market for a football team that has been FBS for maybe 8 years?
UNT? Meh. Denton is close to Dallas but don't think they count as the DFW market. If so they have poor penetration if they do.
PAC has also said 9 teams.
I don't think it is too far fetched to think Stanford/Cal comes back. There was a good a out of talk about that last week, thouh I javent heard much since. Remember they are traveling across the country to play fo free.
But I do think UNLV is a target. So do A LOT of people. I do think they are on deck a d the finances are a tougher sell. But it also looks like the AAC teams could get expensive.
I also don't think that 2 more MW teams go to the PAC that is definitely too expensive.
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Did you hear UTSA coach interview when asked about it?

It sure sounded like there have been talks.

If PAC adds anymore from MWC it's likely UNLV.

I wouldn't rule UNM, USU or SJSU out completely either. Reno/Wyo I can't see it.
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Memphis and Tulane? Yes. I buy that. And that well documented.
UTSA makes since. Not as good competitively, but a good market in TX.
Texas State? That is a stretch. Bad market for a football team that has been FBS for maybe 8 years?
UNT? Meh. Denton is close to Dallas but don't think they count as the DFW market. If so they have poor penetration if they do.
PAC has also said 9 teams.
I don't think it is too far fetched to think Stanford/Cal comes back. There was a good a out of talk about that last week, thouh I javent heard much since. Remember they are traveling across the country to play fo free.
But I do think UNLV is a target. So do A LOT of people. I do think they are on deck a d the finances are a tougher sell. But it also looks like the AAC teams could get expensive.
I also don't think that 2 more MW teams go to the PAC that is definitely too expensive.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Bullmastiff 1
dcut03 said:
"With the CFP"
What does that mean?
You can't factor in getting into the CFP for the annual contract. You gotta get there first buddy.
Legacy schools keep their 7 mil for now, the newest members are getting less, with a promise to even out eventually.
You aren't getting 7 mil again after you lose your 4 best teams/markets. Even less if you get poached again.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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Bullmastiff 1 said:
For this round of media deals yes.

That contract was written when UH, UCF and Cincy were there. If Tulane, Memphis, and rumors of UTSA and USF leaving are true, there's absolutely no way they get the same deal again.
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father judge said:
With the CFP aac teams will get 8.8 to 9 million per school.
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"With the CFP"
What does that mean?
You can't factor in getting into the CFP for the annual contract. You gotta get there first buddy.
Legacy schools keep their 7 mil for now, the newest members are getting less, with a promise to even out eventually.
You aren't getting 7 mil again after you lose your 4 best teams/markets. Even less if you get poached again.
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
With everybody.

WSU, OSU,CSU, BOISE,FRESNO, SDSU along with their top targets who appear to be Memphis and Tulane.

They knew there would be a trickle down effect in the MWC.

AFA has been pondering a move to join ARMY/NAVY and now have even more incentive.

AFA bolts the MWC is in major trouble of staying together.

I guarantee you every AD and President at UNM, RENO, WYO, USU and UNLV are on the phone with AAC, CUSA discussing potential landing spots. MWC commissioner looking at possible mergers? Potential targets to poach etc.

Reality of the situation is, MWC is teetering on imploding. And UNLV may not be in the PAC's future plans.

I don't know.

Because unless there's a BIG12 invite coming, UNLV could end up in CUSA or AAC and neither would be great.

I guess it's possible MWC tries to stay alive by poaching but their options are pretty limited I think.
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Are you sure it wasn't from the Traitor Four's gumming? Just relax Bull. You told people to relax, follow your own advice.
Bull, you know football. Talks about UNLV football. Everyone is all excite about. Please help us understand more about it. Most of UNLV fans including myself are lifelong basketball fans trying to understand football. Leave the politicking to political people. JMO
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Again, any conference UNLV becomes a part of is lucky to have us. We're a darling and developing super power... imagine joining a conference that we can then dominate? We're Vegas, we can still get good schedules... people want to come here, so we spend a few years in AAC or CUSA till Big 12 is ready, win 3 championships, go to 3 tournaments and bam... Hello P4
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1Tripoda said:
Part of discussion with whom? The Traitor Fours? Probably not. Discussion with PAC2? That is what I heard. The first.
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With everybody.

WSU, OSU,CSU, BOISE,FRESNO, SDSU along with their top targets who appear to be Memphis and Tulane.

They knew there would be a trickle down effect in the MWC.

AFA has been pondering a move to join ARMY/NAVY and now have even more incentive.

AFA bolts the MWC is in major trouble of staying together.

I guarantee you every AD and President at UNM, RENO, WYO, USU and UNLV are on the phone with AAC, CUSA discussing potential landing spots. MWC commissioner looking at possible mergers? Potential targets to poach etc.

Reality of the situation is, MWC is teetering on imploding. And UNLV may not be in the PAC's future plans.

I don't know.

Because unless there's a BIG12 invite coming, UNLV could end up in CUSA or AAC and neither would be great.

I guess it's possible MWC tries to stay alive by poaching but their options are pretty limited I think.
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Trust me if I had info I'd spill the beans.

Gut feeling.

They had to have pretty good feeling they could get this done.

I'm sure there were contingency plans if top targets fell through.

AFA may be the point of no return for MWC.

They leave, you are down to 7 and Hawaii being football only is problematic.

This appears to be well orchestrated. Underhanded, sneaky....Yep.But well planned out.

Whether UNLV is part of the discussions is really the biggest question mark.
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Part of discussion with whom? The Traitor Fours? Probably not. Discussion with PAC2? That is what I heard. The first.
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First time NON-P5 school in history??

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Boston Rebel 2 said:
Yeah that is kind of cool it’s hard to imagine no SEC team has done that? I guess because they nevertheless play two road games out of conference vs good teams?
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Look at the teams from the SEC, BIG play in their OOC schedule. That is the time they would play the body bag games to pad their resume. After they've tune up their teams then they play their conference games. NIU and UNLV just happens to snuck in there and stole a few this year.
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LVRebel2000 said:
Is this speculation, or information? It doesn't sound like speculation so spill the beans. ;)
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Trust me if I had info I'd spill the beans.

Gut feeling.

They had to have pretty good feeling they could get this done.

I'm sure there were contingency plans if top targets fell through.

AFA may be the point of no return for MWC.

They leave, you are down to 7 and Hawaii being football only is problematic.

This appears to be well orchestrated. Underhanded, sneaky....Yep.But well planned out.

Whether UNLV is part of the discussions is really the biggest question mark.
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First time NON-P5 school in history??

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LocoRebel said:
If this tweet is to say that no non Big 12 team ever has beaten two Big 12 teams on the road in the same season, that's actually sorta cool.

I mean, only 30 years to account for there, but it's still pretty cool.
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Yeah that is kind of cool it’s hard to imagine no SEC team has done that? I guess because they nevertheless play two road games out of conference vs good teams?
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
They aren't coming back.

This thing is further along than any of us think.
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Cool. Let's see how this thing transpires. This reminds me of Clemson and Florida State arguing with the ACC when their season is shit. How much power do they think they have? CSU got obliterated by CU and Texas. BSU loss a game they should have won. SDSU is barely breathing. Fresno is good. Come Step 28 vs UNLV we will see how good they are.
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Loyal Coug1 said:
That is cool. Of course, in 1988 my Cougs beat two Big 10 teams and an SEC team, all on the road. Plus a Southwest Conference team in our bowl game.
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Still, did WSU beat two Big 12 teams on the road?
We're celebrating so little achievement at UNLV because success is rare. Beating teams from the BIG and SEC would be better, assuming those teams are respectable ones.
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