reagan21 said:

Because they're not paying the exit fees.

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rebeltob said:

UNLV paying huge exit fees to go to the same level of conference they've been in so lame. Same with the 4 MWC schools that already jumped. This whole thing makes no sense and seems to rely on so many what-ifs

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WarthogRebel said:

see Boise.

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WarthogRebel said:

"I thought I read yesterday that the ACC/FSU/CLEMSON drama looked like it was going to likely get cleared up."

This involves a potential new revenue structure where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Spitballing here - you'd need 8 or 9 presidents to agree. So they would have to balance what they think they could get with FSU/Clem vs. what they calculate they are worth without them. All would depend on the numbers. Guaranteed bad blood however - see Boise.

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rebeltob said:

UNLV paying huge exit fees to go to the same level of conference they've been in so lame. Same with the 4 MWC schools that already jumped. This whole thing makes no sense and seems to rely on so many what-is ...

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Loyal Coug1 said:

Assuming the exit fee must be paid when you actually exit (7/1/26), and with the assumption that the _Pac-2 is going to help with the exit fees, you telling me UNLV can't have an almost 2-year fundraising campaign to raise the $17M (less Pac help) that they would need?

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LVRebel2000 said:

I think the issue with the ACC is heading in the direction of being settled, but it would depend on how much the ACC decides to give them, and how things are looking with regards to the GOR lawsuit.

If the ACC agrees to give extra money to FSU and/or Clemson, what about the other schools? Will UNC ask for more? Miami? Louisville? I have a hard time believing that all of these other schools are okay with taking a big pay cut to give more to a handful of other schools, but who knows? Especially with the way FSU is looking in football this year. 😂

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

I thought I read yesterday that the ACC/FSU/CLEMSON drama looked like it was going to likely get cleared up.

ACC is still a strong brand even If Clemson and FSU left. I don't think it would implode.

DUKE, NC STATE, UNC, BOSTON COLLEGE, UVA, VA TECH, MIAMI, WAKE, PITT, Cal, STANFORD, LOUISVILLE, SMU, GA TECH, Syracuse

Regardless.

Memphis and Tulane are the two biggest pieces to this puzzle.

Once those to are official one way or another things get real interesting for UNLV.

With just Memphis and Tulane PAC qualifies as a conference I believe.

They could stay put for next few years and wait things out. And look to add down the road.

That's bad for UNLV (and potentially others in the MWC). UNLV and remainder of MWC would now be forced to decide do we dig in and attempt to rebuild by poaching or possibly merge with say the AAC or CUSA?

Or are they all on the horn searching for new homes?

I've seen rumors PAC may stop at 9 initially. Again possibly not great for UNLV if PACs next step is to try to get into Texas and they Target a Rice or UTSA.

I don't know. This really could go in a lot of different directions some we haven't even considered.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

UNLV is cash strapped.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

I keep saying it, and will keep on saying it. The Six-Pac MUST get UNLV. AF would be good, Wyoming or Reno if necessary. One bottom-ish feeder won't kill us. It would be stupid to pick up Tulane and Memphis, 2000 or so miles away, then have UNLV do the reverse and go to the AAC. Whatever the F is the hold up, fix it. It can't just be the additional poaching/exit fees. And shit - the Pac was already having their BB league tourneys in Vegas. Can we hang on to the LV Bowl? Less than 10 teams means no FB league title game, but eventually......

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LVRebel2000 said:

IMO, unless the PAC is going to bring in additional schools from the midwest/eastern part of the country, I don't see why Memphis & Tulane would want to go. Unless they're just done with the AAC and want to leave immediately. The travel and associated costs would be horrible for the non-football sports. And without having a media deal in place for the PAC, how do you know if you're going to end up coming out ahead in that deal?

Also, I'd assume the PAC buyout would be fairly substantial, so if they commit to it, they're hurting their chances at getting into the ACC if a few of those schools leave, as has been discussed.

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LVRebel2000 said:

Quoting myself here, but this could also be a move by Memphis & Tulane to get more money from the AAC. They were hoping to get into the ACC, pending all the litigation with Florida State and Clemson. That deal sounds like the ACC may be willing to offer some of the schools a higher cut of the media deal, which in turn may keep the ACC in tact as is. But in the end, it still may not be enough (like with Texas and OU).

So what if Memphis and Tulane are playing a similar game and acting as though they're going to leave, so they can get a deal made with the AAC, bumping their cut to 10 million or so? In that case, they'd save the exit fees ($10-$18 million), keep their chances at an ACC inclusion alive, and increase the bottom line without having to incur all of the additional costs associated with joining the PAC 6

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LVRebel2000 said:

Agreed!

IMO, unless the PAC is going to bring in additional schools from the midwest/eastern part of the country, I don't see why Memphis & Tulane would want to go. Unless they're just done with the AAC and want to leave immediately. The travel and associated costs would be horrible for the non-football sports. And without having a media deal in place for the PAC, how do you know if you're going to end up coming out ahead in that deal?

Also, I'd assume the PAC buyout would be fairly substantial, so if they commit to it, they're hurting their chances at getting into the ACC if a few of those schools leave, as has been discussed.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

Wouldn't it be absolutely glorious if some how some way Memphis and Tulane stay put.

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Rosegreen1 said:

Starting to think they screwed up or the rumored 15 million per school media payout was bullshit. If Memphis and Tulane hold out, that really puts the screws to the PAC because they’ll have zero leverage and momentum. Tv deal isn’t going to be 10-15 million.

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