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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

TimothyC3
From the Tucson news paper. Total cost and amount owed to the MWC is $115 mill.

There are two main components:

• The exit fees Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State and San Diego State owe the Mountain West. So long as they give official notice of departure at least one year in advance, the fee is about $18 million per school (one year of conference revenue distributions).

• The poaching penalty that was written into the 2024 scheduling agreement between the Pac-12 and Mountain West and equates to $43 million for the four schools combined.https://tucson.com/news/state-regio...cfa4fbce11.html#tracking-source=mp-in-article


In all, the Pac-12 and its new members are staring at approximately $115 million, or $28.8 million per school.

tucson.com

Mailbag: What will it really cost the new Pac-12 to bring 4 Mountain West schools aboard?

Wilner Hotline mailbag: Addressing multiple questions about the rebooted Pac-12 Conference, including poaching fees, additional expansion candidates, what the future holds for Cal and Stanford, and more.
tucson.com tucson.com
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Grass ain’t always greener!

dcut03
Gator 82 said:
USC has 5* QB Julian Lewis who is the #2 rated player in ESPN’s Top 300 coming in next year. I’d say unless he transfers again, Maiava is never going to be the starter at USC and definitely not going pro.
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You could be right.
But Riley's back ups have transferred to top schools and started and then made the the NFL. Moss hasn't started until his senior year minus the bowl game last year.
Bottom line he will likely have a chance at USC or elsewhere to be starting a a power 4 school, likely a good one. Just the fact that Riley wanted him instantly raises his stock.
"Definitely not going pro" Still too early to tell.
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Odom finishes strong and we are looking?

dcut03
Masked_rebel said:
And they got a NY6 invite... and they didn't play anyone in their non-conference... Vegas has a little more opportunity to schedule up.. even if it means tough road games... and it only needs to be a few years...
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
That's fair.

I just think we may be understating the impact of getting left behind and stuck in a CUSA or AAC scenario.
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Last year was a little weird where all other G5 teams had several losses. Other than Tulane, JMU, etc. To Bulls point, a 1 loss or even 2 loss team would have taken their spot. And for the playoff their ranking system is supposed to have heavy wight on strength of schedule.
Most major power teams like to duck tough noncon games. And they usually go for other P4 teams if they do. Not a lot of benefit for those teams to schedule a tough G5 that they could easily lose to.
Most of our schedule was made when we sucked or was just G5 mediocre. It may be tough to really raise that.
Even so 3 games against decent teams with 6 against scrubs makes the SOS tank.
Bottom line, we really don't want to be on the outside looking in.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

TimothyC3
Bullmastiff 1 said:
Very possible.

Also Possible.

Pac got who they wanted initially.

Swung for fences. (Memphis)

Missed. (possibly)

And now revert to contingency plan.
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But the PAC 2 should have known the precedent of SMU’s departure from the AAC and the $25 mill exit fee. How much do the departing 4 currently owe to the MWC? $60-80 mill?
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Bullmastiff 1
WYNN or Dye said:
If, Memphis goes. They, all go.
If, Memphis stays. Will, the other 3 stay?
I guess USF is staying, regardless if Memphis goes or stays. Was, false news then.
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I'm seeing a lot of stuff having USF staying put. Nothing solid from like ESPN but lots of chatter.

If ACC is now pursuing Memphis (again just rumors) Memphis is 100% taking that offer..

ACC would be smart to add USF and Memphis now to be honest.

If for no other reason than bolster their ranks in case FSU ad Clemson thing goes south.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Bullmastiff 1
TimothyC3 said:
It shows that this whole PAC expansion was not thought out at all. Who would spend $27.5 mill to join a G5 conference with the possibility of a similar TV deal.
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Very possible.

Also Possible.

Pac got who they wanted initially.

Swung for fences. (Memphis)

Missed. (possibly)

And now revert to contingency plan.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

WYNN or Dye
Bullmastiff 1 said:
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Plot thickens boys.

If ACC is actually making a push for Memphis (geographically makes sense) Memphis 100% would take that over anything PAC could offer.
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Continues to thicken.
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If, Memphis goes. They, all go.
If, Memphis stays. Will, the other 3 stay?
I guess USF is staying, regardless if Memphis goes or stays. Was, false news then.
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Lady Rebels Infinity basketball thread

Rebels_88
WYNN or Dye said:
Good, analysis. I, also think Aaliyah Alexander was a good pick-up for us. As, she is more athletic and can drive to the basket than
Alyssia Durazo-Frescas was. Is Lott, 100 percent healthy? I, think she would be close to it.
Meadow Roland, is a RS Freshmen. As, she will have to learn the system and have some growing pains, as most freshmen do.
She, is the most intrigued Lady Rebel, I am looking foward to play.

Our, size in the frontcourt will be kinda small 6'2", 6'1" and 6'1". Hopefully, 6'3" Erica Collins can contibute more to the depth of the team.
She, needs this JR year to be the best year of her career.
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Kenadee was cleared for contact towards the end of summer so, in theory, she should be 100%. Don't know about Jasmyn's status at this point but remember she was, what, 2.5-3 months behind Kenadee on the injury? Also, don't know how the damage in each player's knee compared. Both were said to be ACL but that doesn't mean that was the only thing in each so we'll see.

I hope Erica can get more time as well. I think the challenge is that she's a different kind of big for the offense that is run. I think it's definitely possible that this could be the best year yet for her.

Meadow was here all last season so she knows how things are done and I look forward to see her shine in this system.

I hope this team makes it so conference games need to be moved to T&M to accommodate the crowd size. Been waiting for that for a minute but this is as close as it's been ever.
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Lady Rebels Infinity basketball thread

WYNN or Dye
Meister_Rebel said:
I guess I just have to trust Lindy in this. I'm not sure how our forwards will do. I wish we had more height up front. I hope we get Kennedy Winfrey back. She is good on defense and can shoot well from the outside. I hope we see the new lady's early ie. Teagan and Elli. Overall, I'm not sure I got a feel how we will look without Young so I'm more anxious than nervous. I'm looking forward to getting this thing going.
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With, Kenadee Winfrey only playing 2 games last year. And, after getting surgery. She, will be a redshirt JR, in the 2024/25 season.
I, assume she should be ready to go and healthy. I, hope she has her best year, so far as a Rebel. Her, experience can help us.
I, can see Teagan Colvin, backing-up Kiara and Amarachi at PG. Whenever, they need a spell.

Also, saw we have 4 Non-con games at the Thomas & Mack this year. NAU, Oklahoma, UCF and E. Carolina.
Probably, will get an additional 2 to 3 conference games at the T&M to.
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Lady Rebels Infinity basketball thread

WYNN or Dye
Rebels_88 said:
I saw Meadow play during Desert Reign this summer as well as newcomer Aaliyah Alexander (EWU xfer), Kiara, Macy Spencer, Macie James, McKinna, Amarachi & AB. Also former Lady Rebs Sequoia Holmes, Jordyn Bell, Essence Booker and Ashley Scoggin. It's basically four pick-up games with no more than 2 current Lady Rebels on a team and then other players from around town. Some were former college and others were former HS players. Given the format it's tough to tell since nobody really knows each other too well and there's no real structure to take advantage of skill sets.

Meadow showed no issues with the shoulder. I thought she played OK. She didn't dominate but was pretty good. Aaliyah seemed like a very nice add, scoring from many different places on the floor. Key and AB played as one might expect as did Rachi & James. I thought Spencer had some real bright spots shooting and McKinna is going to be fun to watch. AB, McKinna and Meadow will be a tough group to deal with.

The non-conference schedule definitely is a gauntlet but will be a better prep for conference and, hopefully, NCAA tournament. I'm hoping Jasmyn Lott can come back. I think she would have helped a lot against Creighton. Regardless, I'm looking forward to it.
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Good, analysis. I, also think Aaliyah Alexander was a good pick-up for us. As, she is more athletic and can drive to the basket than
Alyssia Durazo-Frescas was. Is Lott, 100 percent healthy? I, think she would be close to it.
Meadow Roland, is a RS Freshmen. As, she will have to learn the system and have some growing pains, as most freshmen do.
She, is the most intrigued Lady Rebel, I am looking foward to play.

Our, size in the frontcourt will be kinda small 6'2", 6'1" and 6'1". Hopefully, 6'3" Erica Collins can contibute more to the depth of the team.
She, needs this JR year to be the best year of her career.
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James Madison - group of 5 competition?

Bullmastiff 1
Rebel1986 said:
I noticed that 3-0 James Madison is up 53-21 over 3-0 North Carolina at the half - That is a lot of offense.

In my six degrees of separation post, James Madison is up 53-21 over North Carolina at the half; North Carolina beat 2-1 Minnesota 19-17; Minnesota beat unr 27-0.

So how many points would James Madison be up at the half over unr?
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Toledo and NIU will be two other G5 teams to keep an eye on. They play this year so will basically eliminate one of them. Both have big P4 road wins. NIU over Notre Dame. Toledo absolutely curb stomped Miss State on the road.
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James Madison - group of 5 competition?

Bullmastiff 1
Rebel1986 said:
I noticed that 3-0 James Madison is up 53-21 over 3-0 North Carolina at the half - That is a lot of offense.

In my six degrees of separation post, James Madison is up 53-21 over North Carolina at the half; North Carolina beat 2-1 Minnesota 19-17; Minnesota beat unr 27-0.

So how many points would James Madison be up at the half over unr?
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I think a 1 loss UNLV or Boise or Fresno would get the nod over them.
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James Madison - group of 5 competition?

Bullmastiff 1
Masked_rebel said:
No because they all play terrible schedules. That's where it hurts them. The CFP rankings are going to kill teams NIU, Liberty, Memphis, James Madison etc due to scheduling and weak conferences.
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Dude that's what I've been saying about it not being great if UNLV gets boxed out of the PAC12. We end up in a weaker conference (MWC 2.0, CUSA) UNLV would have to really schedule up in OOC to compensate.
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