Bullmastiff 1 said:

Thats a nice way to call us old..

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Well, he did manage to hijack a thread in the middle of an already ongoing hijack to let us know how depressing it is that we are all old.

Boston Rebel 2 said:

I think we could have beaten SMU or Indiana I would favor them but a win wouldn’t be shocking.

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I think our defense was good enough to stop Indiana who struggled against anyone with a decent record. That said, by the end of the year, Hajj wasn't throwing well enough to win any of those games. We became really one dimensional and a 1 read passing offense

It’s all over the net:

Core principles of the Go-Go Offense​

The option
At its heart, the Go-Go Offense is first and foremost built around the triple option. As a former wide receiver though, Marion wanted to retain a little more balance. “Really I wanted to run triple option but I didn’t want to lose any cool pass plays”.
Where the Go-Go differs from the traditional triple option is that their standard formations have the quarterback working from shotgun, rather than under center. They then have freedom to change up the positioning of the running backs.
Contrary to what you might think, Marion is adamant that teams do not require a mobile quarterback to run the option. UNLV’s starting quarterback in 2023 was Jayden Maiava, who ran a 5.24 40-yard dash coming out of high school. Marion says that simply the threat of the option is enough to create favourable situations for the offense.
One of the ways that the Go-Go really likes to attack offenses with the triple option is using the sidecar formation. This has the quarterback lined up in shotgun, with both backs lined up to the same side. You can see just how effective it is in the cutup below.

I'm not saying he'll be the starter. Just saying he has a chance. Dan Mullen turned HS backup QB in Kyle Trask into a 9-2 starter with 25 TD passes followed by 43 TDs and a 4th place Heisman finish... yes, a guy who wasn't even a starter in HS he turned into a 68 career TD passing QB...

Bullmastiff 1 said:

The Go-Go offense is not a triple option offense. It's a spread offense that uses unbalanced sets that relies on zone read, rpo and some option elements. The offense this year looked different than last year.

I didn't say I was disappointed he's staying. I never even implied it. I said I'm not overly excited at the prospect of him becoming the starter because the only tape we have of him is four years old and mop up duty this year.

If I told you before Mullen got hired we were bringing in a P4 two year starter to be Cam Friel's back up you'd look at me like I was nuts.

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No need to argue. But it’s a triple option:

"Go Go at its essence" refers to the core principle of the "Go-Go Offense" being built around the "triple option" concept, meaning the quarterback has the ability to choose between handing off the ball to one running back, keeping it and running himself, or pitching it to another running back on the outside, forcing the defense to defend multiple potential running options on a single play.”

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Looking at the field this year.

I think Rebs could have hung with SMU. Maybe Indiana. Might have been able to give ASU a decent game. But I don't think we win any of them.

We get bodied by everyone else though. Too big, too fast..

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I think we could have beaten SMU or Indiana I would favor them but a win wouldn’t be shocking.

j. spilotro said:

Hey, love what we’ve done with football. Ain’t complaining about the number of wins, our style, our players.

But we get our asses smashed playing the tops of the power conferences. It’s not a contest.

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Looking at the field this year.

I think Rebs could have hung with SMU. Maybe Indiana. Might have been able to give ASU a decent game. But I don't think we win any of them.

We get bodied by everyone else though. Too big, too fast..

Masked_rebel said:

Cam Friel staying. I think he's definitely got a shot to be Dan's QB this year.

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Good God I hope not unless he is the second coming of Caleb Herring and makes an out of nowhere leap.

Masked_rebel said:

Umm... Sluka has the same build, slightly less bulk as Tebow. He'd absolutely have brought him back.

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Why are you guys still talking about a guy who quit?

His completion percentage was below 50% and that included a game against Utah Tech!

If Mullen would have retained his services in his offense, he would instantly lose credibility as a HC who runs the spread offense.

Who cares about the what if’s of Slug-ka, he sucked as a passer here and he turned his back on his team!

oneepstein said:

Easily a home run hire for CU at the time, and in retrospect a grand slam. There’s just been an outsized amount of hype that isn’t warranted… but that’s what he’s great at and good for them.

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Its done wonders for their attendance and put them in the spotlight. Which in turn helps recruiting. Energized boosters etc.

Its the Howard Stern model.

50% of the people watching love the guy.
50% hate watch.

All you care about is that people are watching.

Masked_rebel said:

The younger blood now mostly lives on X...

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Snapchat too that and Tik Tok great place to get your news. Very accurate.

Rebel_Luv said:

Common theme on this "hijacked thread" all old(er) blood on here. I bet most of us our 45 plus. Depressing in the fact that this program has done very little in the last 30 years to reenergize the fan base.

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Thats a nice way to call us old..

rebeltob said:

What? Boise could have been right there if the touchdown wasn’t called back and they could hit field goals.

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Yeah PSU didn’t say to themselves hey let’s allow Boise to drive down the field and get within a field goal at the start of the 4th quarter. Boise actually had more yards but they couldn’t seal the deal with two missed FG’s and a TD called back. That called back TD they stopped them three and out and drove down for a FG. At that point it should have been a tied game but they made too many mistakes. PSU clearly better but it wasn’t a blowout name your score as some are saying. That was the SMU game.

rickyb55 said:

Who was you Bonanza friend, i graduated in ‘92 from there

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Brad Simister. My cousins all went to Bonanza and he was one of their friends. We all played basketball together often

Masked_rebel said:

That's what I'm saying. His skill set is suited for the spread. He's a bigger QB and bigger body. He can throw deep. And his freshman stats weren't great, but that was a 2 win team in 2021 and he got sacked alot behind a terrible OL. After his injury he had confidence issues and Arroyo brought in Bailey to start and Doug beat Bailey out. But you can see in the past 2 yrs on mop up duty he's got his confidence back and he has a good skill set with experience to push for a starting job and absolutely succeed. He just isn't built for the Go-Go

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Dude I mean this sincerely. I like your takes even though we disagree on some stuff. Pretty insightful stuff. One of my favorite posters on the boards.

But

'you could see his confidence was back during mop up duty'

Its mop up duty. There's zero pressure.

Also didn't he fumble with the Rebs going in for the score twice this year in mop up duty? I know at least once.

TimothyC3 said:

Don’t you think CDM watched film on him before he was invited to stay? Also, Friel was a 18 yo freshmen and Haj a 26 yo 6th year senior. Friel is not a triple option QB and that is what the Go-Go offense is and UNLV has run it the last two years. Triple option. Lastly, there is no need for anyone to get excited about Friel staying. That wasn’t my point. My point is not to immediately discount Friel staying as a disappointment. But I do feel his skill set could do well in the spread offense.

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The Go-Go offense is not a triple option offense. It's a spread offense that uses unbalanced sets that relies on zone read, rpo and some option elements. The offense this year looked different than last year.

I didn't say I was disappointed he's staying. I never even implied it. I said I'm not overly excited at the prospect of him becoming the starter because the only tape we have of him is four years old and mop up duty this year.

If I told you before Mullen got hired we were bringing in a P4 two year starter to be Cam Friel's back up you'd look at me like I was nuts.

TimothyC3 said:

One other scenario. Sluka ultimately won the starting job after fall camp. Assuming he stayed and had one more year of eligibility does anyone think CDM would waste a scholarship and invite Sluka back in anticipation that he potentially could run the spread offense? I don’t. He could never run the spread. But he was the starter in the Go-Go.

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Umm... Sluka has the same build, slightly less bulk as Tebow. He'd absolutely have brought him back.

The younger blood now mostly lives on X...

That's what I'm saying. His skill set is suited for the spread. He's a bigger QB and bigger body. He can throw deep. And his freshman stats weren't great, but that was a 2 win team in 2021 and he got sacked alot behind a terrible OL. After his injury he had confidence issues and Arroyo brought in Bailey to start and Doug beat Bailey out. But you can see in the past 2 yrs on mop up duty he's got his confidence back and he has a good skill set with experience to push for a starting job and absolutely succeed. He just isn't built for the Go-Go

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Tim he was fresman of the year with a pretty uninspiring stat line. He had a similiar completion % to Hajj and had 6 TD to 11 INTs.

He's barely played since. The uninspiring mix of QBs Doug Brumfield, Justin Rogers (Pre GoGo), Hajj and Sluka kept him off the field. Maiava a freshman himself got the nod over the more experienced Friel. Maiava is a similiar skill set to Friel. He did well in the Go-Go and he isn't exactly mobile.

Yes I think he has some talent. Yes I think with Mullen he could possibly do well.

But no I'm not excited about the prospect of a guy leading the team to the CFP that hasn't taken a meaningful snap in three years.

If reports come out if camp that he is flourishing in the offense, great I'll be pumped. Until then though I'm hesitant to get excited about it.

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Don’t you think CDM watched film on him before he was invited to stay? Also, Friel was a 18 yo freshmen and Haj a 26 yo 6th year senior. Friel is not a triple option QB and that is what the Go-Go offense is and UNLV has run it the last two years. Triple option. Lastly, there is no need for anyone to get excited about Friel staying. That wasn’t my point. My point is not to immediately discount Friel staying as a disappointment. But I do feel his skill set could do well in the spread offense.

unlove said:

All I care about is whether BSU did enough to keep a G5 with a spot in the CFP. Personally I’m glad they lost since they’re part of the group that felt UNLV wasn’t worth the initial invite. Now I just want CDM to build UNLV into a juggernaut that crushes all PAC teams and is the dominant team out west by a long shot.
Edit: That’s my New Year wish!

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That was never in question. It's contractually obligated to include the top 5 conference championship. It's seeding and right now, it looks like having a bye week isn't great for teams.

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One other point. I am happy to see the Go-Go offense Go. Too gimmicky for me and it was very ineffective (ranked 99th in the country) in the red zone.

they’re all going P4 schools..

Good luck and thank you for being a Rebel.