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1Tripoda · Sep 23, 2024

Bullmastiff 1 said:
We have 7 teams. They have 7.

Bidding war for what's out there.

Have to take AAC schools out of consideration.

I'm asking this not as an ass generally curious who are you poaching to rebuild? It's really lean.

Just for shit and giggles: The Dakotas and the Montanas are 4 schools. Grand Canyon is flush of money. Some possibilities.

dcut03 · Sep 23, 2024

There was also that one idea of the PAC paying the remaining MW teams a flat 20 mil to dissolve. It would save the PAC money and the MW schools would net more than staying together.
They would lose their name, but still create a new conference.
Interesting idea and kinds cold blooded, but a bit of a win win

dcut03 · Sep 23, 2024

Bullmastiff 1 said:
We have 7 teams. They have 7.

Bidding war for what's out there.

Have to take AAC schools out of consideration.

I'm asking this not as an ass generally curious who are you poaching to rebuild? It's really lean.

100%
If they take UNLV and call it quits for now, it's not comparison who has the better conference.
Add in the potential for Gonzaga maybe St. Mary's. Super solid.
Who is left to pick up? NMSU and UTEP and FCS schools.

unlv7163 · Sep 23, 2024

Boston Rebel 2 said:
I don’t understand why they didn’t just invite enough teams to dissolve the conference to begin with and pay zero exit fees and keep well over $100MM.

I don’t think they want to invite enough schools to dissolve it, but may need to. Even if Hawaii, Reno, New Mexico and Wyoming stay, they could just add a bunch of crap teams using all of the exit fee money to do so and cash in as well.

Masked_rebel · Sep 23, 2024

Bullmastiff 1 said:
We have 7 teams. They have 7.

Bidding war for what's out there.

Have to take AAC schools out of consideration.

I'm asking this not as an ass generally curious who are you poaching to rebuild? It's really lean.

Who are they poaching? The whole goal of their conference was to cut dead weight. Adding CUSA teams defeats that purpose entirely. Adding MWC low tier also defeats that. The MW has options, not like for like, but it's alot easier to add programs and offer lower revenue shares than it is to buy ourselves out and take lower revenue shares...

Bullmastiff 1 · Sep 23, 2024

unlv7163 said:
Don’t think it comes to that honestly, but will see. Also don’t think that the PAC are THAT much better that it makes a difference really. Especially if Air Force, San Jose and Wyoming stay. All have had success are good programs in my opinion.

We have 7 teams. They have 7.

Bidding war for what's out there.

Have to take AAC schools out of consideration.

I'm asking this not as an ass generally curious who are you poaching to rebuild? It's really lean.

1Tripoda · Sep 23, 2024

unlv7163 said:
Don’t think it comes to that honestly, but will see. Also don’t think that the PAC are THAT much better that it makes a difference really. Especially if Air Force, San Jose and Wyoming stay. All have had success are good programs in my opinion.

San Jose made a great hire after a great hire. Love their new coach.

ricovegas · Sep 23, 2024

Thank god. Go to the Pac12 already. Keep Hawaii football and Gonzaga basketball and you have a quality league. Strong light heavyweight division.

dcut03 · Sep 23, 2024

Meister_Rebel said:
All we've heard is that we are exploring options. What if AF and UNLV decide to jump to the AAC.

Still in play. I think the PAC would still be better, but AAC is much better than staying.

1Tripoda · Sep 23, 2024

Meister_Rebel said:
All we've heard is that we are exploring options. What if AF and UNLV decide to jump to the AAC.

Why would UNLV do that?

unlv7163 · Sep 23, 2024

Bullmastiff 1 said:
No I just don't want to be watching Sam Houston State and Sacramento State.

Don’t think it comes to that honestly, but will see. Also don’t think that the PAC are THAT much better that it makes a difference really. Especially if Air Force, San Jose and Wyoming stay. All have had success are good programs in my opinion.

1Tripoda · Sep 23, 2024

Game of chess. There are 3 players in this game. UNLV, fudge PAC'ers, and the MWC. We will see how it transpires soon enough.

Meister_Rebel · Sep 23, 2024

All we've heard is that we are exploring options. What if AF and UNLV decide to jump to the AAC.

unlv7163 · Sep 23, 2024

We aren’t taking less in my opinion. We can still make more short term in the MWC. The PAC needs us to save face. Utah St doesn’t come close to doing that and once you get past the other schools that were committed to stay (SJSU and AFA) then it gets really slim.

Bullmastiff 1 · Sep 23, 2024

Masked_rebel said:
Man... our value has never been higher and some of you want to swap from getting a boat load of cash to spending money to play the same teams?

No I just don't want to be watching Sam Houston State and Sacramento State.

Bullmastiff 1 · Sep 23, 2024

Boston Rebel 2 said:
I don’t understand why they didn’t just invite enough teams to dissolve the conference to begin with and pay zero exit fees and keep well over $100MM.

Because I honestly believe the talks with Memphis started months and months ago. Memphis played the PAC saying if we go USF, Tulane, UTSA will follow. PAC now thinking they are about to build a really strong conference, they don't need MWC bottom feeders.

All the while Memphis and company are leveraging AAC with PAC to get better deal never intending to leave.

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Boston Rebel 2 · Sep 23, 2024

Masked_rebel said:
Man... our value has never been higher and some of you want to swap from getting a boat load of cash to spending money to play the same teams?

If the alternative is playing Friday night football in Fargo in November…

1Tripoda · Sep 23, 2024

What is that slam called? Roman Greco or Sumo? lol

Masked_rebel · Sep 23, 2024

Man... our value has never been higher and some of you want to swap from getting a boat load of cash to spending money to play the same teams?

Boston Rebel 2 · Sep 23, 2024

oneepstein said:
PAC still needs another team, and who’s left?

UNLV legitimately has an argument now that the conference is no longer viable so stick the $18 mil up your ass.

I don’t understand why they didn’t just invite enough teams to dissolve the conference to begin with and pay zero exit fees and keep well over $100MM.

dcut03 · Sep 23, 2024

The only way we take 5 will be temporarily to help pay off exit fees

oneepstein · Sep 23, 2024

Meister_Rebel said:
Now we have to go back to the PAC and ask if we can join. They might just say well only if you're willing to take half share.

PAC still needs another team, and who’s left?

UNLV legitimately has an argument now that the conference is no longer viable so stick the $18 mil up your ass.

Boston Rebel 2 · Sep 23, 2024

Masked_rebel said:
There's no way the Pac 12 is getting 12 million per school

That’s what the article said but I agree it doesn’t sound realistic.

dcut03 · Sep 23, 2024

Boston Rebel 2 said:
So they expect the PAC to pay $12M per school? And we get what $5M now?

If unlv does accept an invite to the pac 12 we are looking at 8-10. USU drove the price down a little but again I don't think the swing from the 2-4 AAC teams (12 mil) to the new 2 is that extreme. Still waaay better than staying

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