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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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reagan21 said:
I take it back Imagine having such horrible negotiating skills that you let a school without a football team into your conference with a full share.

****I will say this. Gonzaga is an ESPN darling. The fact Gonzaga was thrust into a full share position makes me think ESPN is TV deal talks with the Pac2
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Gonzaga with a full share is crazy talk. They do get 4 mil per year, which is high considering the lack of football. I can see them wanting a decent bump for coming over. They have been flirting with the Big 12 over the years so they have a little bit of leverage.
If SMU joins too, would they get the same? yeesh, I don't know.
I like the idea of more Basketball than Football members. You need more members for basketball since it is hard to fill up the OOC with fewer conference games.
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Does the offense wake up this week?

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dcut03 said:
Fresno state's defense has good numbers. Not sure how good they really are.
Just wondering if the rush attack gets some more chunk plays and if the passing game gets more efficient and effective.
Sluka is a warrior, but the offense has been a but underwhelming. I think it is key to our ceiling. If it gets closer to last year, combined with our improved defense then Mw championship and beyond really becomes a possibility. If it doesn't improve I think we are looking at a really good, but not a great year.
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If we don't see an improvement this week then we probably are what we are. At this point if you haven't improved your offense over four games it probably ain't coming. I know Sluka got a late start, understanding a new offense etc but it isn't like we are running the run and shoot or something complicated.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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reagan21 said:
@Loyal Coug1 I take it back about rushing the field after beating SJSU. Imagine being turned down by UTSA.
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I take it back Imagine having such horrible negotiating skills that you let a school without a football team into your conference with a full share.

****I will say this. Gonzaga is an ESPN darling. The fact Gonzaga was thrust into a full share position makes me think ESPN is TV deal talks with the Pac2
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We are the backup plan?

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Masked_rebel said:
LOL.. they would need to offer a really really good deal at this point for UNLV to not stay put and wait for those 6 to come crawling back... They tried to take out the king and it didnt work.
What it does tell you is they had no plans t pay the exit fees for the AAC teams and the anticipated revenue for TV is either equal or close enough that it didnt make sense to move. So why not play hard ball and keep getting the cash. They now need the MWC 8 more than we need them
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I tend to agree. Still see possible value in going, but it's much less than originally expected. The fat stacks that pac 2 pay the mwc per scheduling agreement combined with the exit fee, hard to say no to keeping that if MWC is also willing to give UNLV unequal distribution.
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Who said UNLV TV numbers were low?

dcut03
Boston Rebel 2 said:
Yeah except SDSU has been at least respectable for the last few decades vs us as one of the worst D1 football programs in NCAA history over the last few decades. You won't change that with one good season. Another good year this year and then yeah next year I would expect another leap. Attendance was up 12% that is a very respectable increase. Go up another 12% this year and that puts us at 3rd in the conference. Season ticket sales were up more than 1K alone so that by itself moves us to 4th. WSU was 28K so we aren't that far off from them.
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The fact we started the year with less than 18k actually paid attendance following last year sucks. Especially after a big road win with a lot of buzz nationally.
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Who said UNLV TV numbers were low?

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dcut03 said:
nevadasportsnet.com

MW football attendance analysis: Biggest risers and fallers year-over-year

College football games hosted by Mountain West schools drew their largest average home crowds since 2017, albeit with a caveat. This year's non-Hawaii games d
nevadasportsnet.com nevadasportsnet.com

6th in the league when you tied for first isn't great. Even terrible ass SDSU drew more fans last year.
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Yeah except SDSU has been at least respectable for the last few decades vs us as one of the worst D1 football programs in NCAA history over the last few decades. You won't change that with one good season. Another good year this year and then yeah next year I would expect another leap. Attendance was up 12% that is a very respectable increase. Go up another 12% this year and that puts us at 3rd in the conference. Season ticket sales were up more than 1K alone so that by itself moves us to 4th. WSU was 28K so we aren't that far off from them.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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LVRebel2000 said:
Possibly. But even if so, it certainly lowers any amount of leverage that the new PAC has with regards to inviting new schools. If all of the other schools really wanted to screw over these 6, they could. I don't think that's how it will shake out, but it's not likely that UNLV or any other schools will take a smaller slice of the pie, if that's what the PAC comes in offering.
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Hi, Montana State? What are you guys up to?
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

dcut03
Masked_rebel said:
As yourself... as much as we want basketball to return to glory, do you really want to compete with Gonzaga who has a huge NIL and name brand association already that then gets a few extra million dollars in tv media revenue over everyone else?
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Yes.
We all want to go to the Big 12, what do you think of THAT conference slate.
Now yes, Big 12 money gives us more capital to compete so that is a factor. But doubling our money and playing Gonzaga twice a year is a good thing.
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Who said UNLV TV numbers were low?

dcut03
reagan21 said:
It is sad. Was last season, season #1 in Snapdragon?

Regardless, we should pull more than the Aztecs.

I've lived here my entire life and I still disagree with the term "We will support a winner." Not true. People of Las Vegas will support a team that gives them clout in the community. 85% of Golden Knights fans drive Range Rovers and have their nannies pick up their kids from private school. Even in seasons where the Knights are good but not Stanley Cup contenders the talk of the town decreases. The flags aren't as flown nearly as proudly. Hockey fans talk hockey but Golden Knights fans are zzzzzz...

It will take a huge momentum switch for Las Vegas residents to see UNLV sports attendance as something to go on their IG reels. Free glass of wine and allowing dogs to be brought in purses smaller than 9" x 11" would be a good start.
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100% It's not just being good, its about being cool and trendy.
Gucci row started this. I loved it back in the day, but that mindset kills us.
I think last year was the first year in snapdragon. and they only got like 17k for their first game if I remember ocrrectly. The fact they still outdrew us while being absolutely embarrassingly ass really stings.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

dcut03
This is obviously a good thing.
Either the whole PAC thing backfires or they get desperate and offer UNLV and at least 1 other school. Staying at 8 isn't perfect, but at least you are officially a conference.
Another out of the box idea. The MW four officially come back, the 9 top markets decide to dissolve the conference and all go to the PAC, and you cut out a little of the dead weight. Helps the bottom line.
But honestly, I am still pulling for a PAC invite since it will likely double our media money. As long as we get a LOT of help from the PAC to pay off the fees.
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