When do we get word if men have walked on the moon?

WYNN or Dye said:

Shocking, this was the most people at a UNLV women's volleyball game.
Some, professional women's volleyball players where there to attend. Our, very own Vegas Thrill.

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Shocking that we've never had 3,200 people show up to a volleyball match? Those are bonkers numbers.

I hope more people can make it out. Even if you don't know volleyball, as @RebelScrub would say while streaming a Desert Reign game from an iPad ca 2012, "are you not enterTAINED?!?!?!?"

We are an experienced and well coached squad. Hope to see more of you out there.

reagan21 said:

The Pac2+ does. They literally JUST did this 18 months ago. They tried to renegotiate and get AZ, AQSU, CO, and UT to stay with a $40M TV deal that did not exist. As bad as we think the MWC and UNLV is run, the Pac is worse.

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This is part of the reasoning for why UNLV is hesitant to jump and why other programs also were hesitant to jump.. The Pac 12 leadership isnt trustworthy and havent been in a position of power or trust for years. Promising TV deals that dont exist, like how stupid are we going to feel if the annual payout is actually around 5-7 million dollars (rumored what new MWC deal wouldve been) and we just paid 18 million to play the same teams for the same money. The deal was made as a way for the new commissioner to save her job and create a name for herself. Gloria is a know entity, she might have her faults, but the ADs apparently trust her and what her interests are. The 4 that jumped ship didnt jump ship because TV deals alone, they did it because 2 have been trying to pretend their a P5 school for a decade jumping ship at the first rumor of finally joining that club and the other 2 because the name sounds cooler than the MWC...

Meister_Rebel said:

This is me sitting back.

I took a break from here to watch the volleyball game vs Hawaii. Hawaii is a damn good team. In a packed sold out COX pavilion with over 3000 fans we beat them. UNLV (6-2) and Hawaii (6-2) UNLV wins in 5 sets with the 5th set going to 15-13. Hell of a match.

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Wish I could have made it out.

reagan21 said:

The Pac2+ does. They literally JUST did this 18 months ago. They tried to renegotiate and get AZ, AQSU, CO, and UT to stay with a $40M TV deal that did not exist. As bad as we think the MWC and UNLV is run, the Pac is worse.

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The incompetence of the PAC is my one big hangup. Their arrogance is a close 2nd. However, they now run the best G6 in the country with us added.

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Not accepting the PAC invite must be about $$. Can’t imagine why else UNLV would conditionally commit to MWC. My guess is the PAC invite was without any $$ to help pay the MEC exit fee. Given UNLV’s financial position we unfortunately cannot make a decision based solely on quality of conference. This is a super high stakes game. Sure how Whitfield doesn’t give an ounce of allegiance to the MWC just bc he is the current chair.

dcut03 said:

The PAC has a contract ready to go. No one does this without having TV support behind them already. No one.

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The Pac2+ does. They literally JUST did this 18 months ago. They tried to renegotiate and get AZ, AQSU, CO, and UT to stay with a $40M TV deal that did not exist. As bad as we think the MWC and UNLV is run, the Pac is worse.

“That’s the play honestly” says one athletic director with knowledge of the situation…

This article presumes(?) that the departing members get a vote on conference dissolution?

And apparently Hawaii gets a vote.

Meister_Rebel said:

Another article summing things up.

Good read to start your day with a cup of coffee or whatever you drink in the morning.

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It's a good plan to dissolve the MW conference by the Pac12. Just one school to make this happen. And, as usual we are thinking about it. Our ****ing administrators kill me.

Another article summing things up.

Good read to start your day with a cup of coffee or whatever you drink in the morning.

Rod_the_Rebel said:

What fresh hell awaits us today

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I'm sure we've been trying to call the Pac12 offices all morning. But, no one is answering.

I’d imagine it would have to be pretty large considering the impact of even a single team leaving.

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Masked_rebel said:

I'd rather clobber terrible teams and make NCAA tournament by winning title every year than finish 7th and pretend we're just a year away...

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We’d find a way to finish 3rd in the new shit MW as well.

1Tripoda said:

Man, I love Rick Majerus. After Tark, that dude was the closest thing. basketball junkie.

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I remember Coach Majerus and how he LOVED our buffets. He would be disappointed today if he was still around.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

We did and turned it down and now are back in negotiations..

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For me, it's not so bad because now bother the MW and Pac 12 need us and we are negotiating to find the better deal.

Expanding on it further…

I’d think a move like that could make the AAC the premier G5 league. With a little math and some scheduling tweaks you could almost guarantee your top team a spot in the CFP.

First you use some kind of math formula so that your best teams aren’t playing TOO many of your worst teams. Then setup your own 4 team playoff.

Split your league into East and West, then split the divisions into 5 team groups. Maybe those groups change year to year, but the East and west remains. I have no idea if any of that would work but if it’s possible you do it.

You also blackball the PAC from any of your top teams playing any of them.

And then when everyone is fast asleep in their comfy little beds you go burn down their headquarters and blame it on Idaho.

1Tripoda said:

CSU, SDSU, BSU, and FSU went to the PAC because they believe that namesake will help elevate their brand higher than than they could with the MWC. PAC turds have no contract because those schools left them and their contract is nulled and void. That is just histories. I am sure tomorrow will bring more news and excitements. USU can do whatever they want.
If I am UNLV, stay put.

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The PAC has a contract ready to go. No one does this without having TV support behind them already. No one.
Those schools left because the MW has dead weight and they are primed to making twice the media money.
It may not end up being that much more, but It will be significantly more.
This is very similar to when the MW took it's best programs from the WAC to cut dead weight. Do we want to be in the leftover WAC?

Recruiting matters. If we are in the MWC/limbo, our recruiting drops and we lose good coaches.

TV matters so I'm pro-AAC. More exposure/eyeballs since we won't start all of our games at 10pm/11pm EST and miss out on >66% of the population wanting to watch us live.

Masked_rebel said:

My guess... if our doom and gloom outlook media package is around CUSA, the buyout probably isn't that high. Not sure there's much to lure with other than you're now in MWC... but yeah for both conferences it's a mess and not pretty.. only thing with sticking with MW, we know Gloria, we get $$$, and we're the top revenue receiver for a few years...

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True. Say our next contract is 3 mil for 5 years. So buyout could be 15 mil.
But look at our contract now. The exit feet is 17-18 mil for less than 2 years. We ain't making 9 milly a year, so it is safe to say that the exit fees will be juiced above the value of the contact.
Which brings me back to the exit fees. They are going to get negotiated down. And if you look at it, they seem excessive. 2 full years is less than 12 mil in terms of media rights. Historically they have been reduced to about 60%, but I can see these fees getting to 50% or even less.

What fresh hell awaits us today

I'd rather clobber terrible teams and make NCAA tournament by winning title every year than finish 7th and pretend we're just a year away...