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RebelSoldat · 2024-09-23T18:08:40-0600

How much did we f*ck ourselves if it meant not paying 18 million out of pocket AND keeping our coaches for a little longer?

RebelSoldat · 2024-09-23T18:07:44-0600

I guess we didn't want to pay the exit fee and worry about whether we could find the funds to keep Odom...

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-23T18:05:52-0600

1Tripoda said:
Two years from now, those traitor schools will be going to the PAC. UNLV contract also over and we can go to any conference we want but with a boatload of cash. 21 months I think to be exact.

Any conference that wants us.

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-23T18:05:21-0600

reagan21 said:
I took my hydroxyzine at lunch instead of at night....true story.

I'll be a different man tomorrow.

😀

1Tripoda · 2024-09-23T18:05:11-0600

Two years from now, those traitor schools will be going to the PAC. UNLV contract also over and we can go to any conference we want but with a boatload of cash. 21 months I think to be exact.

reagan21 · 2024-09-23T18:04:22-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
You're one of my favorite posters on here,

But at this moment your optimism makes me think Scrub told you it was a regular gummy.

I took my hydroxyzine at lunch instead of at night....true story.

I'll be a different man tomorrow.

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-23T18:03:06-0600

reagan21 said:
Maybe y'all have never been to Logan, UT. It's beautiful for 6 months/year but it's way north of SLC and is more considered part of Southern Idaho than Northern UT/SLC metro area. It's known for it's "squeaky cheesy" for heaven's sake.

It adds $0 to their TV deal. No value at all. Their only value is they are 1 team closer to getting a conference championship game.

You're one of my favorite posters on here,

But at this moment your optimism makes me think Scrub told you it was a regular gummy.

reagan21 · 2024-09-23T18:01:26-0600

unlv7163 said:
I’d say just wait and see how this all plays out. If it’s a 2 year thing, I don’t think it’s horrible to see where the football program is at that point. I’m sure the PACis negotiating high exit fees. Might be hard to leave twice if say the Big 12 were to call calling. Don’t think it’s necessarily ideal where we are at, just don’t think it’s horrible (as of now). Best guess is this leads to the original merger that was planned. Guess we’ll see

This is a reasonable take

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-23T18:00:56-0600

Masked_rebel said:
I hate to break it to you, but he wasnt long for this conference either way... This cash we can sign a large extension with a huge buyout... That way we get good money in return

And if he wasn't long for it here who else will want to be.

He took over when UNLV was in a top G5 conference. He recognized the potential.

UNLV will no longer be in a top G5 conference. Who will be motivated to come to the West Coast equivalent of the Sun Belt?

I wish I shared your optimism that this will all work itself out and UNLV will be fine..

Unfortunately I can't see it.

reagan21 · 2024-09-23T18:00:01-0600

Maybe y'all have never been to Logan, UT. It's beautiful for 6 months/year but it's way north of SLC and is more considered part of Southern Idaho than Northern UT/SLC metro area. It's known for it's "squeaky cheesy" for heaven's sake.

It adds $0 to their TV deal. No value at all. Their only value is they are 1 team closer to getting a conference championship game.

utestream · 2024-09-23T17:59:52-0600

Masked_rebel said:
But its not a long term commitment.... Playoff path is easier, you turn your basketball program into a success.. 5 years from now Big 12 media deal is open for negotiations... That's why it makes sense... and thats 30 million possibly on top of departure fees, so add another 14 million plus and growing... thats a lot of money to play with

As usual, I have no insider information. However, let us say that UNLV takes the money from the MWC defector payouts, the money that UNLV will get for winning the first round of the college football playoff, the money that UNLV will get from losing to Utah in the second round of the playoff, and the money that would have been used for the MWC exit fee and invests it in the football program, paying Odom 6 million dollars per year for the next 7 years and each coordinator 1 million per year. How would this position UNLV for the next round of the Big 12 expansion?

unlv7163 · 2024-09-23T17:59:19-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
USU sounds like they are gone. SJSU announced intention to stay.

If we get left behind in MWC and USU, RENO and UNM go to the PAC I can honestly say I'm not sure I care enough anymore to watch UNLV play FCS call ups.

Not being hyperbolic. I just wouldn't have any interest in watching a football conference probably behind the MAC now. And not much better than the Sun Belt.

I’d say just wait and see how this all plays out. If it’s a 2 year thing, I don’t think it’s horrible to see where the football program is at that point. I’m sure the PACis negotiating high exit fees. Might be hard to leave twice if say the Big 12 were to call calling. Don’t think it’s necessarily ideal where we are at, just don’t think it’s horrible (as of now). Best guess is this leads to the original merger that was planned. Guess we’ll see

bcvegaspt2 · 2024-09-23T17:57:47-0600

reagan21 said:
Bull, take that $30M and give it to @bcvegaspt2. He'll guarantee 41% returns for the next 10 years.

Don’t give out my secret sales pitch!

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-23T17:56:17-0600

Masked_rebel said:
Translation

We got a crap ton of cash and assurances....

I've already cleared my calender for that Sam Houston State game.

Masked_rebel · 2024-09-23T17:52:25-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
Ok but after that then what.

I can't see Odom staying to coach in this conference if it gets flooded with FCS schools or CUSA schools.

I can't see it.

I hate to break it to you, but he wasnt long for this conference either way... This cash we can sign a large extension with a huge buyout... That way we get good money in return

RebelinWA · 2024-09-23T17:50:47-0600

Rebel1986 said:
If they brought anywhere near those numbers, then the bottom section would already been sold out, and it isn't really that close to being sold out.

Maybe they plan on saving a few bucks and trying to jump the gate? I’ve argued with quite a few of their fans on the internet. Half of them still think we’re at Sam Boyd.

reagan21 · 2024-09-23T17:50:27-0600

Bull, take that $30M and give it to @bcvegaspt2. He'll guarantee 41% returns for the next 10 years.

Rod_the_Rebel · 2024-09-23T17:48:04-0600

reagan21 said:
Decade(S)

Joined the Rebel family in 2015, but historically you’re absolutely right

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-23T17:46:32-0600

reagan21 said:
Significant? Nah.

If USU is gone we aren't even a conference anymore.

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-23T17:45:58-0600

reagan21 said:
Our deal is locked in for the next 2 years. It's the traitor/exit fee money that is huge.

Ok but after that then what.

I can't see Odom staying to coach in this conference if it gets flooded with FCS schools or CUSA schools.

I can't see it.

reagan21 · 2024-09-23T17:45:53-0600

Rod_the_Rebel said:
I would expect that. You’ve seen true greatness. I’ve seen a Harvard business study on how not to run a university in its entirety, for the last decade.

Decade(S)

reagan21 · 2024-09-23T17:43:38-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
The condition of the MWC is significantly worse if USU walks.

Significant? Nah.

Masked_rebel · 2024-09-23T17:43:30-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
I give zero poops what the PAC may or may not make.

What I care about is how little UNLV may end up making.

Like I said earlier.

Let's say UNLV is getting 30 million dollar lump sum.

If media deal drops from 5 million per school to 3 million per (And that might be generous considering what MWC will look like now)

That's 2 million less per year over the next say 5 years.

That's 10 million off the top of that 30 million.

Want to lock up Odom. Probably another Million a year.

We're down to 15.

What are attendance numbers going to look like when the Home conference schedule is Sac State, UTEP, NMSU, WYO?

Have to imagine that takes a hit creating another shortfall.

That money dries up pretty damn quick.

But its not a long term commitment.... Playoff path is easier, you turn your basketball program into a success.. 5 years from now Big 12 media deal is open for negotiations... That's why it makes sense... and thats 30 million possibly on top of departure fees, so add another 14 million plus and growing... thats a lot of money to play with

Rod_the_Rebel · 2024-09-23T17:43:20-0600

Meister_Rebel said:
I've been donating to the Lady Rebel Basketball team. I might start donating a little to football. I get where you are coming from but, I can't abandon my Rebels. I've been following them for +50 years. I wouldn't know how to stop following them.

I would expect that. You’ve seen true greatness. I’ve seen a Harvard business study on how not to run a university in its entirety, for the last decade.

reagan21 · 2024-09-23T17:42:54-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
It doesn't have to though. It just has to be better than current MWC deal. Because ours is certainly getting worse don't you think?

Our deal is locked in for the next 2 years. It's the traitor/exit fee money that is huge.

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