Bullmastiff 1 said:

Yeah, I'm more in the camp of staying was the right call ultimately. We'll see. There are some risks with it as well.

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LVRebel2000 said:

Seems like a dumb plan honestly. IMO, the only ones that would want to do that are the ones that would fall in the top tier. Everyone else would be fighting an uphill battle if the top tier teams make 2-4 times more money than you do. At least now, for the most part, the schools that you're fighting it out against for the conference title are all getting the same money. But if you're in a big mega league, and the money is getting spread out in a different way, you could be getting 1/4 the amount of money as other teams in your league.

For discussion purposes, lets say that Colorado gets high marks for their consistently high TV viewership, so they get the top tier money. Meanwhile, Cincinnati, who is in the same conference, gets only 1/4 of the money that Colorado gets. In the long term, how is that sustainable for Cincinnati?

And even if this goes through, I actually think that it would hurt the overall viewership of that mega-league. I'm a bit stubborn, but I would likely stop watching all football games for teams that are in that league entirely. Kind of like the NBA. I have no interest anymore. If they start a separate league and only play against teams in it, then fine, but know that me and I'm sure many others like me will just stop watching it altogether.

What that would do to leagues like the MWC, PAC, AAC, etc is a big question. I think they'd still have a similar market, and depending on which broadcast companies get on board with the mega league, it could even open up other opportunities for the teams outside of this new league. My guess is that if this new league is putting this much money into it, they'd start their own network kind of like the Big10 network, Pac12 network, etc, have done in the past. If they did that, then maybe ESPN, ABC, Fox, CBS, etc, would go back to offering to get these other leagues media deals.

In the end, just lots of speculation and guesses. But I don't think it would destroy UNLV or any other programs in the long run as some are speculating.

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LVRebel2000 said:

Seems like a dumb plan honestly. IMO, the only ones that would want to do that are the ones that would fall in the top tier. Everyone else would be fighting an uphill battle if the top tier teams make 2-4 times more money than you do. At least now, for the most part, the schools that you're fighting it out against for the conference title are all getting the same money. But if you're in a big mega league, and the money is getting spread out in a different way, you could be getting 1/4 the amount of money as other teams in your league.

For discussion purposes, lets say that Colorado gets high marks for their consistently high TV viewership, so they get the top tier money. Meanwhile, Cincinnati, who is in the same conference, gets only 1/4 of the money that Colorado gets. In the long term, how is that sustainable for Cincinnati?

And even if this goes through, I actually think that it would hurt the overall viewership of that mega-league. I'm a bit stubborn, but I would likely stop watching all football games for teams that are in that league entirely. Kind of like the NBA. I have no interest anymore. If they start a separate league and only play against teams in it, then fine, but know that me and I'm sure many others like me will just stop watching it altogether.

What that would do to leagues like the MWC, PAC, AAC, etc is a big question. I think they'd still have a similar market, and depending on which broadcast companies get on board with the mega league, it could even open up other opportunities for the teams outside of this new league. My guess is that if this new league is putting this much money into it, they'd start their own network kind of like the Big10 network, Pac12 network, etc, have done in the past. If they did that, then maybe ESPN, ABC, Fox, CBS, etc, would go back to offering to get these other leagues media deals.

In the end, just lots of speculation and guesses. But I don't think it would destroy UNLV or any other programs in the long run as some are speculating.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

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All the realignment nonsense, arguments of go to the PAC don't go. Position ourselves for the BIG12 etc could be just wasted energy.


I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. But this isn't the first time something like this has been floated as an idea. Now there could be legs behind it (or something like it) if that type of money is getting thrown around. Not saying it will happen either. Only that it's a real possibility.

UNLV and the rest of the G5 would essentially get relegated to a subdivision, and play for their own Championship. But who would really care at that point.

If I'm reading this right the current model UNLV would be in? It's pretty convoluted with a relegation aspect to it. My God that's what they do in Europe and Soccer! They want to bring communism to America!

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Rebel1986 said:

It sucked watching Jackson Woodard drop the interception near the end of the game that would have sealed the win. 9 out of 10 times he would have caught that interception, unfortunately this was the one out of ten. No doubt he is still kicking himself. My expectation is UNLV will be focused for the next three games. I would love to have UNLV playing Oregon State instead of Utah State this next game. Oregon State looked bad in a win against a really bad CSU team, it would be the perfect time to play them.

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Rebel1986 said:

I do not think it cost that much. If they opened up the entire next section, maybe, but they can open up section by section like they did for the Iowa State and MWC championship game. If they only opened the northern section 200, I am sure the cost is a lot lower.

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j. spilotro said:

Not downplaying it.

But you have zero control over one. You have full control over the other.

Some fans - UNLV has never lost a game. It’s always the refs. Its a loser mentality.

Many fans, the game is too rough, need to clean it up. Calls like yesterday were not close to being considered penalties until sports became ultrapussified (not just football) … there’s the result … over calling things …

All that said, yes - bad calls matter. Last night, USU hoops last year. I think there was a brutal late hit/personal foul last year at AFA, but they overcame. UNLV DUKE 1991.

Look in the mirror first and foremost. The things you can’t control, that’s secondary IMO.

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saulpaul21 said:

Nice pile of cash with no chance to "move up" means we are really an fcs school. No reason for the investment we have made in sports. Special place in hell for unlv administrators that wasted decades of opportunity that would leave us outside of the cool kids club.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

Hmmm. Seems like a lot. But then again I've never been there. Looks like you can't get from the 100 level to the 200 level so they have to open up a separate concourse? But if some of the suites are being used isn't it open anyway?

But, no matter. Get more fans, if the metrics are there.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

I thought six, but you could be right...

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Meister_Rebel said:

UNLV and AF would certainly come out ahead with all our bonus money for staying in the MW. So, let it happen. If we aren't the top 70 at least we will have a nice pile of cash.

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oneepstein said:

It’s coming and it’s sobering. It’s part of, if not the main reason, I support the move that UNLV made. 6 to 10 years from now is too late and won’t matter… the next several do though and having the extra resources matters a ton.

Will it be enough? Who knows, but it’s a shot.

Had we gone to or merged with the PAC we’d be very short on resources to operate within a condensed time frame.

There are 3 spots available (if 70) for teams outside the AQ4. Are we in the 3 now? No. Can we be? Might be a longer shot than we’d like but I still think there’s a shot. Has to be “all in” now.

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oneepstein said:

It’s coming and it’s sobering. It’s part of, if not the main reason, I support the move that UNLV made. 6 to 10 years from now is too late and won’t matter… the next several do though and having the extra resources matters a ton.

Will it be enough? Who knows, but it’s a shot.

Had we gone to or merged with the PAC we’d be very short on resources to operate within a condensed time frame.

There are 3 spots available (if 70) for teams outside the AQ4. Are we in the 3 now? No. Can we be? Might be a longer shot than we’d like but I still think there’s a shot. Has to be “all in” now.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

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All the realignment nonsense, arguments of go to the PAC don't go. Position ourselves for the BIG12 etc could be just wasted energy.


I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. But this isn't the first time something like this has been floated as an idea. Now there could be legs behind it (or something like it) if that type of money is getting thrown around. Not saying it will happen either. Only that it's a real possibility.

UNLV and the rest of the G5 would essentially get relegated to a subdivision, and play for their own Championship. But who would really care at that point.

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Meister_Rebel said:

UNLV and AF would certainly come out ahead with all our bonus money for staying in the MW. So, let it happen. If we aren't the top 70 at least we will have a nice pile of cash.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

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All the realignment nonsense, arguments of go to the PAC don't go. Position ourselves for the BIG12 etc could be just wasted energy.


I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. But this isn't the first time something like this has been floated as an idea. Now there could be legs behind it (or something like it) if that type of money is getting thrown around. Not saying it will happen either. Only that it's a real possibility.

UNLV and the rest of the G5 would essentially get relegated to a subdivision, and play for their own Championship. But who would really care at that point.

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saulpaul21 said:

Could Whaley be another breakout canidate from unlv?

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TheMatrix31 said:

It cost $120,000 for UNLV to open the 200 level at Allegiant. The demand has to be there for them to open it up

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LVRebel2000 said:

Exactly. We still control our own destiny. We don't necessarily have to beat Boise twice to win the MWC tournament title. But if the goal is to get to the CFB playoffs, UNLV probably has to win out, which is possible but pretty unlikely.

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Stoker016 said:

Yup. For us to sniff the AP top 25 again, we need to win the next 2, BSU needs to win theirs, and we have to beat them. That's it as far as chances at top 25 go. Should we drop the BSU game, we could maybe sneak in end of year if we win out after Boise. We'll see. Just beat USU. That's it.

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LVRebel2000 said:

Is that to open the entire thing, and have all of the food and beverage options open? I'm sure you could just open parts of it, as they did against Boise last year and only open a portion of the F&B stuff.

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