I can't imagine a reverse merger is on the table at this point.
There is way too much bad blood now. And it's only going to get worse.
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I can't imagine a reverse merger is on the table at this point.
There is way too much bad blood now. And it's only going to get worse.
I think you mostly have to go undefeated regardless. Maybe a stronger 1 loss team gets in over an unbeaten Sun Belt team, but not sure a 2 loss team does. Really depends on what each resume looks like. To me you just have to make sure the non conference slate is strong. Can’t schedule Utah Tech anymore because you’re going to have enough of those already in conference. I just don’t think a PAC team would AUTOMATICALLY get in over a MW team with similar records. It will help them a little, but I don’t think it’s nearly as much as you think it will. The committee is full of P4 members. Don’t think they really spend a ton of time worrying about which G5 team gives the #5 seed a warmup game.
Boise and Fresno are still in play for that playoff spot (ESPN still lists Boise as the Favorite) for that playoff spot. The MW is strong enough, eat least at the top, that a conference loss against a strong opponent does not eliminate them.
The new PAC is in the same boat, stronger at the top, and really significantly stronger from top to bottom than any other conference, by a long shot.
Oh it’s amazing what a shared interest in $$ can do to bring warring parties together! It would not shock me at all if after all the movement and lawsuits the PAC & MWC end up together, or even if UNLV (and AFA) end up in the PAC.
I understand that, not arguing otherwise. There just isn’t much precedent that the current MWC is better, and therefore allows more room for error, than any other conference. When was the last time a MW team went to a BCS bowl? Been well over a decade. And the 2 current teams that do have an appearance (Boise and Hawaii) were members of the WAC when they went other than once by Boise St in 2014. Why? Because our conference champion always has 2-3 losses while the smaller conferences have an unbeaten team that goes. The same will continue to hold true in my opinion.
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It is a bit different now because the NEW playoff format has a bigger emphasis on strength of schedule. The new PAC is going to at least initially be much stronger than every other G5 conference.
Understand, but don’t think comparing G5 teams will be at the top of the agenda for the committee. The SOS will matter for the at large teams. At the end of the day, I don’t know how it will play out and what decision would have been best. Just don’t think that this particular point is really that big of a deal. If UNLV (or any other MW team) goes undefeated, they very likely get in.
I think it is pretty clear they are better and in terms of potential down the road.
Let's take top 3 remaining schools in each right now.
WSU
FRESO.
BOISE
Vs
UNLV
SJSU
AFA (typically good)
On paper not that close.
Let's take Potenial. What schools you think could potentially get better..
SDSU (Who was really good just a few short years ago)
CSU
OSU
Vs
Wyoming
UNM
Reno
Again I think PAC is better.
That conference in football as it sits is head and shoulders better than the MWC in my opinion.
I disagree that a new PAC team would have to go undefeated.
This year if UNLV goes 11 - 1 vs this schedule and wins conference title they will get the nod over an undefeated Liberty because of strength of schedule.
Sure hope we have several out clauses to give us options down the road, especially if it’s a lengthy commitment.
The new format is highest rated G5 conference champion gets a seat at the table.
Strength of schedule matters.
Playing in some WAC/CUSA/MWC hybrid will be a detriment in my opinion.
I know this isn't UNLVs fault, nobody saw this coming, but there's no way the vision in place with all the new facilities was to be the flagship program of a middling G5 conference. It just wasn't.
What the hell is going on with this site? When did I become RebelMan 5000?
This is bizarre.
This is bizarre.
I’m not debating that the PAC isn’t better. They certainly are top to bottom, I just don’t think it matters much. Your scenario could be true, but you have to go 12-1 first. That is going to be extremely difficult to do. It is much more likely that the MW champion has 2-3 losses, than only 1 loss. If that is true an undefeated champion of another conference is going to get in.
UNLV basketball is beyond dead
Haven’t heard that song since the 90’s..
I agree that does matter if it comes down to it. Absolutely will if 2 G5 teams are undefeated or similar records. My point, and perhaps I’m not being clear enough (apologies if so), is that 9 time out of 10 (if not more) it will not come down who has a stronger schedule. I think beating a couple of P4 schools out of conference, like we did this year will look better to the committee than worrying about whether or not we beat San Diego St vs Wyoming. Hope that makes sense.
Does that mean, the champion of the highest rated G5 conference? Or does that mean the highest rated team out of the G5 schools? I'd think it would be the 2nd one. Which is how a school like Liberty could get in over the AAC/MWC etc conferences
I hope the MWC just merged with the AAC and totally kill the PAC. If the MWC choose to add just one school. I'll take our old nemesis, NMSU
LOL - I told you we’d be here for a long time. Locked in til 2032! MWC forever!
Hopefully there are some outs to the deal. Otherwise, wow, in todays landscape, that's a long time to commit to.
The TemuPac12 is going to continue be too arrogant and prideful but they should really be looking to settle and merge or figure out a way to have a championship game between the two conferences/divisions.
Mountain West's remaining members sign memorandum of understanding to keep league together through 2032
The list of signatures includes UNLV and Air Force, who were major targets for expansion elsewhere
www.cbssports.com
Not sure what the details of this are, but it's a memo of understanding, and not a Grant of Rights, from the sound of it.Mountain West's remaining members sign memorandum of understanding to keep league together through 2032
The list of signatures includes UNLV and Air Force, who were major targets for expansion elsewhere
So it's a pinky promise, essentially. They're non-binding. So I guess we could theoretically still bolt if we received an invite.
Does anyone know what is happening with Hawaii? In my opinion, given that Tulane, Memphis, UTSA, USF etc are not coming, the Pac 2 would have been better off with a reverse merger with MWC and just pay the weaker programs/market less. Imagine the MWC six + Hawaii merge with or have a championship game with AAC. From a media market standpoint, you would cover 5 time zones, multiple states, and some large markets.
It was said they’re planning on signing the MOU and stay in the MWC. The PacSun7’s invitation must have been lost in the mail.
I would rather UNLV just drop athletics completely than commit to play in the shitty MWC for the next decade.
Hawaii is a terrible market and the biggest problem is they have their own network for TV deals. It sucks watching games against Hawaii because the broadcast is like early MWC network days. Also Im not sure USF would be excited about that travel
No joke guys Rebel Net might have got hacked.
Because my avatar and stuff read as if Rebel Man 5000 posted and this is 100% BULLMASTIFF posting this.
I logged out attempted to log in and got a warning about potential identity/information attempt.
Jumped back on to let you guys know.
Looks fixed now.
Because my avatar and stuff read as if Rebel Man 5000 posted and this is 100% BULLMASTIFF posting this.
I logged out attempted to log in and got a warning about potential identity/information attempt.
Jumped back on to let you guys know.
Looks fixed now.
This deal only works if we keep Odom and continue building the athletic department to be sexy enough for the big 12. Sounds like a damn long shot. We will live on hope (against better judgement) that we will still go big time… Lord.
I may be warming up to UNLV staying put.
One smart move by UNLV it doesnt look like they signed a GOR. Instead something called a Motion of Understanding.
Possibly negotiated an easier exit if another conference looks to add them? (AAC/BIG12)
Possibly negotiated an easier exit if another conference looks to add them? (AAC/BIG12)
Was that you that posted previously? I saw the Rebel man 5000 thing but didn't know it was you posting it.
Yeah. There's like 2 or 3 posts that say REBELMAN5000 posted it. It was me.
It was bizarre.
Just wanted to warn you guys.
Even the IDIOTS!
I just figured Scrubs RebalMan5000 got loose and out of his closet and set up an account.
I purchased tickets from the AFA to go see last years UNLV game. They have me on their mailing list. This is what they sent me today.
In a demonstration of shared commitment and unity, the Mountain West announced today that seven member institutions have signed a Memorandum of Understanding to remain in the league. The Conference and the institutions have also formally agreed to execute a Grant of Media Rights from the member institutions to the Conference from July 1, 2026, through June 30, 2032.
So for all the doom and gloomers...
UNLV fleeced the MWC, did not sign a GOR, and have basically an open clause that lets them leave to a P4 if the invite comes without penalty.. 10 million lump sum Adds 1.5-1.8 million annually in addition to their normal payout... Huge competitive advantage that we just got
UNLV fleeced the MWC, did not sign a GOR, and have basically an open clause that lets them leave to a P4 if the invite comes without penalty.. 10 million lump sum Adds 1.5-1.8 million annually in addition to their normal payout... Huge competitive advantage that we just got
