We have the facilities and media market. If the rebels could keep winning, I think that the Big 12 could pick them up.
It may not go down in the near term. What Rosegreen posted: “Mountain West schools currently make almost $6 million annually in overall payouts. League officials have informed UNLV that preliminary negotiations indicate that number should not decrease when a new media rights deal is signed despite the loss of several name-brand institutions.”
**** that. At least hire someone that has some emotion and personality that can actually recruit and coach and be dedicated to it. Hell put Lindy in the job.
IDK, if you’re not in a P4 the difference between the G5s aren’t really that great. UNLV has its own attraction (Allegiant, Fertitta, marketable city that the media is drawn to) and if we can keep Odom and maintain the level of winning we’ll be just fine in that regard. We’ll play in bowl games and be in the conversation for the playoff spot. Give Odom everything he needs to continue pursuing his plan to make UNLV a nationally ranked football program. If that plan is executed successfully everything else will follow. It all makes this season even more important for the program’s future. In that light I can understand the decision to take the MWC $$ and plow it into the program, MBB, in planning for an even brighter future. Doesn’t mean it will play out that way, but it isn’t a bad plan (assuming that’s the plan).
Definitely need to upgrade the 1980s light show. It’s become embarrassingly aged and no longer reflects the level of entertainment of Vegas today nor does it excite the students. With all the creative entertainment talent in Vegas why UNLV can’t reach out and tap into it is bewildering.
I like putting more emphasis in football, has much more upside potential if we keep winning.
WHAT IF....
And this is a stretch,
But what if UNLV and AFA got together and said, if we're going to stay in the MWC, we need to make it very lucrative for ourselves, hence this 25-30 million dollar payout, while knowing that this would piss off the other remaining schools who aren't expected to get as big of a share? Either, it will pass and UNLV & AF will get a big chunk of change, OR, the other schools will have a fit and be pissed at the overall operation of the MWC, thus voting it into dissolution? Probably not immediately, due to wanting to collect the exit fee money plus the money from the
Most of the remaining schools can't leave, due to the exit fee cost, and also that they don't have anywhere good to go. But they also know that IF, all of the remaining schools voted to split the buyout from the MWC5, and then dissolve the conference the year after, they could all leave with no fees. At that point, they'd have an extra chunk of change from the teams already leaving, and all of the schools could figure out where to go that would be best for themselves.
Ironically we’ll need UNR to become more relevant in football again to help with the conf rating.
Been working pretty well for Liberty. Worked for Boise State back in the day.
Yeah, I still believe (probably misguided) that there are more dominoes to fall and I’ve thought of this very thing in relation to UNLV and AFA getting VERY special treatment and how the others must feel.WHAT IF....
And this is a stretch,
But what if UNLV and AFA got together and said, if we're going to stay in the MWC, we need to make it very lucrative for ourselves, hence this 25-30 million dollar payout, while knowing that this would piss off the other remaining schools who aren't expected to get as big of a share? Either, it will pass and UNLV & AF will get a big chunk of change, OR, the other schools will have a fit and be pissed at the overall operation of the MWC, thus voting it into dissolution? Probably not immediately, due to wanting to collect the exit fee money plus the money from the
Most of the remaining schools can't leave, due to the exit fee cost, and also that they don't have anywhere good to go. But they also know that IF, all of the remaining schools voted to split the buyout from the MWC5, and then dissolve the conference the year after, they could all leave with no fees. At that point, they'd have an extra chunk of change from the teams already leaving, and all of the schools could figure out where to go that would be best for themselves.
Exactly fans won't be coming to watch Utah Tech, I bet actual attendance for FSU this weekend is a lot more than Utah Tech was. Because people aren't going to pay to see nobodies in Las Vegas. The tv money will be much lower, attendance will be lower (basketball barely draws as it is) and you're stuck in a dead end conference for 5 years just to get some money you will be able to do nothing with because no big name coach will come or stay here.
From what I read the MWC is fronting the money to UNLV and AFA from the exit fees that aren't due uintil 7/1/26. We would still be entitled to our share when the exit fees are paid, and if/when the poaching fees are paid.
That was because BYU and Utah wouldn't let them in. The MWC wanted Boise LONNNNGGGGG before they finally got their invitation.
This is very true... Utah was rounding also into a very top tier football program at the same time and understood the game... If you lose one game in a non-power conference back then even to a team like Boise, you lost all shot at playing in a BCS bowl. The system was very different now. Also Boise benefitted tremendously in reputation by beating up members of the WAC.. 51-3 over a 5 year period.. You dont think UNLV would benefit from going 51-3 over 5 years with multiple conference championships?
That’s where I’m at. I live here in Vegas now and did my masters at UNLV but at least I’ve got OU football (they’re going to be awful this year) because this shit is just not looking good for us in the future. I know our major men’s teams have been terrible for a while but the lack of NIL fundraising is baffling. Especially in a city like this. I hate to sound like such a little bitch but sheesh.
They don’t really have a choice, they would have to invite a plethora of schools and that’s not ideal.
Bro we were selling our free student tix to Fullerton and Pacific games to knuckleheads for like $150/ea.
True but different time and different sport and arguably the best time for college basketball ever.
I remember reading somewhere that in order for UNLV and Air Force to get that big money (it was said to be 10 million at that time now 25-30 million) they had to sign to a 7 year deal (first 2 years to finish off the current tv deal then 5 years with the future tv deal)! UNLV better have a out clause with no penalties if they leave for a "power 4" conference!
I don’t think that’s gone public yet, but as we’ve seen contracts are made to be broken….or is that records?
At this point, nothing is final. Until all 7 remaining MWC schools sign whatever the "binding agreement" is, that also stipulates that UNLV & AFA will get 25-30 million, then nothing is set in stone.
Will it even make a difference of we get to the Big 12?. Many feel that in 7 years it will be the Power 2 ( Big 10 and SEC ). When the Big Ten and SEC form a super conference, it will likely have significant impacts on the rest of college football. There will be much less space between the Big 12 /ACC and the G5's as they all become different levels of irrelevant.
On a similar note, most of the OSU fans on X and in their Rivals forum believe that the poaching fees in the agreement between the MWC and PAC are illegal, and therefore won't need to be paid. If the MWC is making this 'binding agreement' that will keep all of the current 7 schools in it, which is in the range of 25-30 million for unlv, what happens if, indeed, the MWC is not able to make good on those payments? Does that allow UNLV / AF a free get out of the MWC free card?
Man I hope this works out and by no later that 2031 (hopefully sooner) we are in the Big 12! If not we have without question taken a big step back no matter how you want to spin it! I mean if you were to tell me before all this crap happened "Hey we're going to be in a new conference without Boise, SDSU, Fresno, CSU, and Utah St and replace them with Texas St and UTEP I would said are you ****ing crazy! That big Money you are getting is only good for the short term! Your now in a conference that will always be behind the PAC and AAC for that group of 5 playoff spot! For Basketball you are looking at being a 1 maybe 2 if we're lucky bid conference for the tournament!
Not sure many of the others had much of choice. Schools the PAC would want are going to cash in and the others need to be in a conference and probably couldn’t afford the exit fees anyway. Also guessing that until the matter is resolved, the PAC isn’t going to approach any more MW schools for fear of higher penalties. Only thing that would save this mess is to do the reverse merger thing, but may be too far past that now.
