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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Here's something to consider in all this.

You have to figure PAC went to let's say Apple TV for sake of argument. They already have all the old PAC12 TV equipment so that helps a lot.

Anyway,

Pac goes to Apple TV and says we have two potential scenarios.

They present them with Option A (Original 6 plus AAC schools)

They present Option B
(Original 6 plus USU, UNLV and maybe somebody else)

Apple TV comes back and says we'll give you X amount for Package A and X (less) for Package B.

I guess where I'm going with this is, if they have to come back to Apple TV and say yeah about that. We need to replace UNLV with UTEP (or whoever)

APPLE TV says we'll that's another 500k per school off previous offer.

SDSU/FRESNO/CSU/BOISE all got sold on Options A or B

Is there a point where the returns are so diminishing that they have to reverse course?

I wonder..

(To your point of the uncertainty of PAC media deal)

So I definitely see your hesitancy in those regards.
The answer is yes. At this point Plan A failed. Plan b is not working out.. They're trying to get another school because they need the legitimacy of a conference cover to get those conversations to be serious. Right now they also need to get the first 4 in to stay committed despite all their best intentions falling apart. Its all a power struggle at this point. Id be interested to know if Gloria gets on the phone with say Fresno and CSU and tells them they wont need to pay and offers them some assurances with cash if they announce they decided against joining.. Also still to be decided is USU's fate. Pac 12 bylaws arent just going to go away right?

UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

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Something I've seen barely touched on.

MWC went into negotiations with PAC for scheduling agreement.

Now obviously the MWC would be in contact with all MWC schools to see how best to accommodate the scheduling. They likely had talks with ADs and university president's on some level along with their 'threatcaster' to formulate and agree on the stipulations of bye outs and how best to protect the conference.

If SDSU/BSU/CSU/FRESNO were already in talks with PAC about leaving and subsequent poaching, wouldn't that mean those schools were negotiating in bad faith? Like they already knew they were out but had a hand in formulating the contract. Possibly steering discussions to create an easier exit path?

They knew they were getting poached/leaving etc, but we're involved in the agreement. Seems..Shady?
(Hope that made sense)
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Sluka Redshirting and Transferring

IMO, we paid everything he was entitled to in any written contract. If we didn't, we'd get sued and lose. Must have been - as his dad said _ a verbal promise of additional money that didn't come through.
Long-term, which the media and the world thinks is a four-letter word now, the courts will determine if we honored the agreement or not. If we honored the written contract as-is, then we are clear. If not, they take us to court.

I don't agree to anything binding verbally. "Let's meet for a drink." Sure, I'll accept that. "I want to give you six-figures." Is a handshake sufficient?

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Sluka Redshirting and Transferring

Now his agent is saying if they can get a deal in place hed be open to returning.. That tells me all I need to know about who is at fault here...You dont come out and say that unless this was not well received by coaches you were hearing from ..
F*** THAT I’d rather lose the rest of our games than get this little shit back. He can go be a twat somewhere else. His dad? Don’t get me started

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

At this point the Pac 12 isn't using Metrics.. Hawaii is one of the toughest conference mates you can have. Travel sucks, TV deals suck, school struggles with $ to invest in programs.. makes no sense to have cash partial member if your whole intent was a leaner MW...

Here's something to consider in all this.

You have to figure PAC went to let's say Apple TV for sake of argument. They already have all the old PAC12 TV equipment so that helps a lot.

Anyway,

Pac goes to Apple TV and says we have two potential scenarios.

They present them with Option A (Original 6 plus AAC schools)

They present Option B
(Original 6 plus USU, UNLV and maybe somebody else)

Apple TV comes back and says we'll give you X amount for Package A and X (less) for Package B.

I guess where I'm going with this is, if they have to come back to Apple TV and say yeah about that. We need to replace UNLV with UTEP (or whoever)

APPLE TV says we'll that's another 500k per school off previous offer.

SDSU/FRESNO/CSU/BOISE all got sold on Options A or B

Is there a point where the returns are so diminishing that they have to reverse course?

I wonder..

(To your point of the uncertainty of PAC media deal)

So I definitely see your hesitancy in those regards.
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Sluka Redshirting and Transferring

I'm posting this from the national board, and do NOT know of the accuracy of it, just passing on info:

Copied and pasted from the MAIN Board

"To everyone who responded to my post. I have a friend who works for Friends of UNILV (their collective), he said they've paid him everything he agreed to, got him a place to live and a vehicle to drive.

He came to them after the first win over Houston and said he needed a better car, they said they would look into it. He came again after the win over Kansas and asked for more money, they said they didn't have more. He asked where his new car was, they said none of the dealerships were interested for the price the collective could afford.

He went to the head coach. Head coach said he can't do anything, school isn't associated with the collective. He thew a fit and quit the team. The collective and university can't say shit, because of future ramifications."
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UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

I mean, for a hardcore basketball fan, that schedule sucks.. but those fans are showing up regardless... For the fringe Las Vegas pseudo UNLV fan, if we are winning a lot of games, they will show up to watch the winning program.. We all know that, we've said it constantly Vegas supports a winner. We might not like it as true fans, but there will be a bunch of fans in the seats if were competing to win the championship and dance...

UNLV still has to compete with VGK and Raiders.

Winning will help no argument. But the worse the schedule the less that winning will help.

Sure back in the 80s 90s and when UNLV was only show in town didn't matter who they played.

Now I think it does matter.

Sluka Redshirting and Transferring

If true. He didn't have a licensed agent who has a legal duty of fiduciary care in NV. An agent who advised him to take a verbal deal and wait it out until he get's his state license and negotiate from there. The whole scenario sounds absurd all the way around.

Great choice of an agent btw.

UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

Were pretty much on same page here.

I looked at what schools would be realistic options for MWC to poach.

Took out any AAC schools. MWC can't match their TV deal plus travel seems stupid for a lot of them. Travel has to be considered in this since these schools don't have Cal/Stanford money.

I considered FCS schools but said no for now.

Introducing your new MWC

UNLV
AFA
HAWAII
WYO
RENO
SJSU
UNM
UTEP
TEXAS STATE
LA TECH
SAM HOUSTON STATE

I'm not trying to be snarky. I legitimately think that is probably the best we can do.
I mean, for a hardcore basketball fan, that schedule sucks.. but those fans are showing up regardless... For the fringe Las Vegas pseudo UNLV fan, if we are winning a lot of games, they will show up to watch the winning program.. We all know that, we've said it constantly Vegas supports a winner. We might not like it as true fans, but there will be a bunch of fans in the seats if were competing to win the championship and dance...
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Sluka Redshirting and Transferring

I'm posting this from the national board, and do NOT know of the accuracy of it, just passing on info:

Copied and pasted from the MAIN Board

"To everyone who responded to my post. I have a friend who works for Friends of UNILV (their collective), he said they've paid him everything he agreed to, got him a place to live and a vehicle to drive.

He came to them after the first win over Houston and said he needed a better car, they said they would look into it. He came again after the win over Kansas and asked for more money, they said they didn't have more. He asked where his new car was, they said none of the dealerships were interested for the price the collective could afford.

He went to the head coach. Head coach said he can't do anything, school isn't associated with the collective. He thew a fit and quit the team. The collective and university can't say shit, because of future ramifications."
What a scumbag....

Sluka Redshirting and Transferring

Dude does anyone else’s middle finger hurt.

I think I have trigger finger
I'm posting this from the national board, and do NOT know of the accuracy of it, just passing on info:

Copied and pasted from the MAIN Board

"To everyone who responded to my post. I have a friend who works for Friends of UNILV (their collective), he said they've paid him everything he agreed to, got him a place to live and a vehicle to drive.

He came to them after the first win over Houston and said he needed a better car, they said they would look into it. He came again after the win over Kansas and asked for more money, they said they didn't have more. He asked where his new car was, they said none of the dealerships were interested for the price the collective could afford.

He went to the head coach. Head coach said he can't do anything, school isn't associated with the collective. He thew a fit and quit the team. The collective and university can't say shit, because of future ramifications."
uncle Cliff failed us..

Sluka Redshirting and Transferring

If he tried to renegotiate his deal after the season started then they need to make changes to the NIL. This is something they can implement. Every school will be on board. I was not a big fan of Sluka , loved his toughness and running ability as a QB ,but he almost always tried for the HR ball. HIS bravado seemed like he wanted to play HERO BALL! How many short passes did u see him make? IMO Marion seemed upset with the way the O was running. That is why Odom said we will win some ugly games!
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