Have you tried Portland St and EWU? They're probably itching to be Pac 12...
I mean. You could have the Smurf turf and the Inferno... throw in Idaho and the Kibbie Dome and you've got a conference...

Loyal Coug1 said:

I'd take Reno. It's either them or Sacramento State. But you guys are now locked down. No one is going anywhere, right? Or just what does your new agreement thru 2032 say? Is there even an exit option/fee? Can Reno invoke the 1890 Sherman Act like the Pac is trying to do?

And I want Hawaii in FB so we can create the Alaska/Hawaiian Air Pac-TBD

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Its alright, I’ll allow it. Take reno.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

Well not quite what the article says, but I get you. I had read that article previously. Hard to believe though, that the Pac would cover most or all of the Traitors exit fees then only offer Memphis, etc. $2.5M. But then our Commissioner is an idiot.

Per the article:

"At the time, the idea that in less than a year the Pac-12 would be willing to pay roughly $115 million for one-third of the Mountain West seemed unrealistic.

The Pac-12 would be willing to help fund the exit fees, the schools were told, which took away the primary risk factor"

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I guess you have to look at it with this perspective... what do you have to offer Boise and SDSU to form a real core to attract the next tier and that meant going strong after the first 4- offer to cover all the fees. Then they thought more programs would shake loose and MWC crumbles = no fees... so you low ball Memphis and hope they wanted to come play in your hopefully strong top to bottom conference as a move up rather than status quo... but your commissioner hasn't exactly shown savy here so who knows

Bullmastiff 1 said:

What if...(Hope springs eternal thinking here)

But what if...

UNLV goes to Gloria..

You pay us X amount we stay buying time for you to rebuild the conference.

We are currently in talks with the BIG12 and intend to leave in 20XX.

No exit fees. No grant of rights stuff. Free and clear.

The other less sunshine and roses scenario is UNLV added the P4 verbiage to keep the dogs at bay in terms of negative fan and booster reaction. 'Just say P4 these fools will buy it.

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Honestly that is my hope of what exactly is happening.

That they are talking to the Big 12. They say, "we like what you are doing" keep it up and we may reach an agreement in the future.

It also explains why we aren't going to the PAC, which will obviously be a better conference than the leftover MW with significantly more annual revenue. If a true, legit shot to join the Big 12 is possible.

Still a long shot, and we still might have to bust the playoff this year or get damn close. And maybe follow that up with another very good year next year.

All while improving TV numbers and attendance.

But all of this drama this week will at least get people tuning in to see us. And if we keep winning, climb the rankings, then I think both ratings and attendance will improve (ratings more than attendance, but for media deals, at least that matter more). This drama is giving us some national intrigue. Hopefully we can capitalize

RebelScrub said:

There’s gonna be 2 more traitors..

You guys sure you don’t want Reno?

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I'd take Reno. It's either them or Sacramento State. But you guys are now locked down. No one is going anywhere, right? Or just what does your new agreement thru 2032 say? Is there even an exit option/fee? Can Reno invoke the 1890 Sherman Act like the Pac is trying to do?

And I want Hawaii in FB so we can create the Alaska/Hawaiian Air Pac-TBD

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Masked_rebel said:

Yes, I too shall cry for the little guy while dominating the conference in all 3 major sports every year

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100%

Loyal Coug1 said:

You need 8 full members to be a BCS conference. You only have 6.

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There’s gonna be 2 more traitors..

You guys sure you don’t want Reno?

I'm expecting for football:

UNLV
UNR
AF
SJSU
UNM
HAWAII
WYOMING
UTEP, TEXAS STATE, OR NORTH TEXAS
NIU (football only)
TOLEDO (football only)
NEW MEXICO ST

Basketball

UNLV
UNR
AF
SJSU
UNM
WYOMING
One of the Texas 3
NMST

Would love a run at Liberty for football. And gonzaga/st marys for bball. Id be suprised if it happened though

Bullmastiff 1 said:

With algebra bro.

You just add some letters to the equation and it works out.

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Couldn’t even do the quadratic formula with a gun to my head these days

Ala abdelnaby

The value of this for the program - huge

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Masked_rebel said:

Ok, so hear me out...
Gloria targets 2 football only Schools for expanded regional coverage with NIU and Toledo, adds 1 Texas school for all sports...
That's 10 football and 8 basketball programs...
So you swing for the fences and add Gonzaga and St. Mary's and now you balance 10 and 10...
I mean, that's one hell of a job as a commissioner if she can swing that

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You need 8 full members to be a BCS conference. You only have 6.

Masked_rebel said:

There was a behind the scenes article 2 days after the original announcement The article said the firm used to vet candidates told them the Pac 12 as part of the offer to join would cover their exit fees.... now there's nothing explicitly written in stone but if that was an insider report of how things went down, I'd believe it...

'We had no sense this was coming': Inside the Pac-12's four-team expansion

From 12 to 2 to 6 schools and counting, here's how the foremost western conference stayed alive.

www.espn.com

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Well not quite what the article says, but I get you. I had read that article previously. Hard to believe though, that the Pac would cover most or all of the Traitors exit fees then only offer Memphis, etc. $2.5M. But then our Commissioner is an idiot.

Per the article:

"At the time, the idea that in less than a year the Pac-12 would be willing to pay roughly $115 million for one-third of the Mountain West seemed unrealistic.

The Pac-12 would be willing to help fund the exit fees, the schools were told, which took away the primary risk factor"

Masked_rebel said:

Ok, so hear me out...
Gloria targets 2 football only Schools for expanded regional coverage with NIU and Toledo, adds 1 Texas school for all sports...
That's 10 football and 8 basketball programs...
So you swing for the fences and add Gonzaga and St. Mary's and now you balance 10 and 10...
I mean, that's one hell of a job as a commissioner if she can swing that

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If that does occur, I'd be pleasantly suprised. That would be a fun bball conference and not horrendous at football. A strong football Ooc and we are fine.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

I will acknowledge my hypocrisy and embrace my larger share...

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Yes, I too shall cry for the little guy while dominating the conference in all 3 major sports every year

Masked_rebel said:

Ok, so hear me out...
Gloria targets 2 football only Schools for expanded regional coverage with NIU and Toledo, adds 1 Texas school for all sports...
That's 10 football and 8 basketball programs...
So you swing for the fences and add Gonzaga and St. Mary's and now you balance 10 and 10...
I mean, that's one hell of a job as a commissioner if she can swing that

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Good BB conference football not so much

Stoker016 said:

Heck lets just swing for the fences and offer Gonzaga and St Marys as bball only and really mess with the pac here. Lol can you imagine if that occured and we added the few decent teams available from the MAC and CUSA (NIU, Liberty, UTEM, NMST). pac would be left with scraps to get to 8.

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Ok, so hear me out...
Gloria targets 2 football only Schools for expanded regional coverage with NIU and Toledo, adds 1 Texas school for all sports...
That's 10 football and 8 basketball programs...
So you swing for the fences and add Gonzaga and St. Mary's and now you balance 10 and 10...
I mean, that's one hell of a job as a commissioner if she can swing that

rebneck said:

You mean, with Boise St. and their premium gone, we have to start hating ourselves, instead?

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I will acknowledge my hypocrisy and embrace my larger share...

Masked_rebel said:

So for all the doom and gloomers...
UNLV fleeced the MWC, did not sign a GOR, and have basically an open clause that lets them leave to a P4 if the invite comes without penalty.. 10 million lump sum Adds 1.5-1.8 million annually in addition to their normal payout... Huge competitive advantage that we just got

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You mean, with Boise St. and their premium gone, we have to start hating ourselves, instead?

unbeknownst? Well done.

reagan21 said:

Memorandum

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Well In lieu of memorandum I used motion. Unbeknownst to me some snarky lawyer type would be out there to correct me!

LVRebel2000 said:

I've heard that said also but never seen anything official, more like people assumed that was the case. Do you know what amount they offered?

Also, check your messages on here

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I have no idea what the Pac offered. Transparency is not very common in the Pac-2.

Got and replied to your message.