HUGE NEWS!
- By dcut03
- Rebel Football
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Have you looked at this board over the years. The Rebel Self hate has been stronger than ever!You mean, with Boise St. and their premium gone, we have to start hating ourselves, instead?
Have you looked at this board over the years. The Rebel Self hate has been stronger than ever!You mean, with Boise St. and their premium gone, we have to start hating ourselves, instead?
It isn't the same boat though.Is there something in the works with the Big 12? I doubt it but, hey a guy can dream right? Having the option without penalty is pretty huge though.
After calming down and thinking about it for a minute though…
Jumping to the PAC was likely going to cost at least $18 million. Maybe it was just the $18 mil or maybe there was some other bs shannanigans the PAC and the rest of those traitorous CU**S were trying to pull like reduced revenue share or whatever.
Regardless, UNLV saves the $18 mil and picks up an additional $20 million or more to stay in a conference, that isn’t as good to be sure (maybe by a decent amount), but in all reality isn’t as far behind as people may think.
The PAC is still a G5 and in any given season, depending on who the national Cinderella turns out to be, could easily end up as a footnote during any given season.
Once a few of them sh*t the bed in the non-con and it drags their SOS into the tank it won’t matter what the rest do.
And UNLV just made $35-40 million to be in essentially the same boat.
Utah State left because they have bad leadership and their football program is a disaster. The amount of coaches that school has run through over the years is astonishing. It’s not surprising they lept at a deal where they pay their way in because they want positive coverage admist their scandals.
The PAC12 was rejected by 7 schools this week, if you count Hawaii. PAC has more problems because their standards and used car salesman tactics aren’t working on anyone. Their proposed tv deal is probably fiction and doesn’t move the needle for any AAC team to pay an exit fee and get paid a few dollars more…for what? Joining a version of the MW? Nah. Why would unlv want to pay an exit fee and join a broke conference with no tv deal?
Based on where we are at, that is probably the best case scenario. Would get us into the central time zone, building the media value up somewhat. Unfortunately, there just aren’t many good options.
NIU and Toledo have had some good teams. Actually think it could be a win/win. We (Current MW) gets 2 solid football only schools and we get into the fertile recruiting areas of Chicago and Ohio. Plus it could boost the media deal at least enough for them to be cost neutral from a payout perspective. They, of course, get into a better conference for football. Texas St would be the best full member school being talked about in my opinion. Still would need 1 more full member, but would probably take 2 (or a 4th football only school) to get to 12. Don’t really have any strong feelings on who would be best out of the 3 you mentioned, though another football only MAC school like Miami (OH) could be intriguing.
NIU and Toledo have had some good teams. Actually think it could be a win/win. We (Current MW) gets 2 solid football only schools and we get into the fertile recruiting areas of Chicago and Ohio. Plus it could boost the media deal at least enough for them to be cost neutral from a payout perspective. They, of course, get into a better conference for football. Texas St would be the best full member school being talked about in my opinion. Still would need 1 more full member, but would probably take 2 (or a 4th football only school) to get to 12. Don’t really have any strong feelings on who would be best out of the 3 you mentioned, though another football only MAC school like Miami (OH) could be intriguing.Login to view embedded media
Dudes got 10k followers. Not sure how reliable the info is but.
If NIU and Toledo reached out 1st maybe this has legs.
I've been pretty down about not joining PAC. But Toledo and NIU have been solid programs.
If Gloria can add Texas State and possibly a combination (or all) of SAC State, UTEP and NMSU I'll feel better about the viability of the MWC..
No Utep and NMSU aren't great but regionality makes sense.
And they get us to the minimum
Based on where we are at, that is probably the best case scenario. Would get us into the central time zone, building the media value up somewhat. Unfortunately, there just aren’t many good options.Texas State and Northern Illinois?
All that matters is what CBS thinks, obviously they are involved with the conference expansion talks and want programming slots for Pacific, Central, and Hawaiian time zones. The PAC has gone regional, the exact opposite of their intention.
Ok, so hear me out...
Gloria targets 2 football only Schools for expanded regional coverage with NIU and Toledo, adds 1 Texas school for all sports...
That's 10 football and 8 basketball programs...
So you swing for the fences and add Gonzaga and St. Mary's and now you balance 10 and 10...
I mean, that's one hell of a job as a commissioner if she can swing that
“We didn’t take this deal because we don’t think less of ourselves” sums up exactly what UNLV would have been doing by joining the temupac12. UNLV actually showed some leadership acuity.
If we did get a P4 out that means the MW is pretty sure it isn't coming.
The problem for the PAC is the ACC implosion isn’t imminent, it’s not happening anytime soon. Hence the rushed offers and lowballing AAC members. The other problem is the geography of the PAC is extremely regional. Oregon Stafe, WAZZU, Boise, Colorado, Utah State. Fresno and San Diego are on an island.The only way the PAC becomes viable is if the acc implodes sooner than later and Cal and Stanford come crawling back, but I doubt they don’t find a home elsewhere before that.
The next TV deal negotiations are already under way. Expected to be at least what they are getting now. At the end of the day, all of these networks need content to fill up their schedules and nothing gets more viewers than football. Even MW games.I missed the part about leaving for an autonomous Power 4 conference. A nice add and the only good thing about the Memorandum. Still lousy conference with no real reason for Idaho or other Summit league powers to spend money to go to a soon defunct MWC. I just don't see with the economic conditions at present a major network paying for the MWC anything but ESPN3 money.
All that matters is what CBS thinks, obviously they are involved with the conference expansion talks and want programming slots for Pacific, Central, and Hawaiian time zones. The PAC has gone regional, the exact opposite of their intention.They average less than 10000 per game. No one goes west out of Chicago to watch that team. Toledo is even worse. 7000 per game. Someone is smoking crack if they think Ohio and Illinois give a darn about MWC football. BIG runs the Midwest and any other teams are just considered cannon fodder for basketball and football pre league games.
Utah State left because they have bad leadership and their football program is a disaster. The amount of coaches that school has run through over the years is astonishing. It’s not surprising they lept at a deal where they pay their way in because they want positive coverage admist their scandals.There is no tv revenue stream. The league is dissolved with Utah State leaving. UNLV will be a lost entity in the world of pro athletics here in Vegas. No one will go to see the left over conference and no major tv network will pay to have UNLV on every week in basketball with Kruger as head coach. Odom is gone as this power conference dream is as solid as the paper it is written on. Worthless leadership leads to academics and former Arizona Pac12 administrator with dreams of grandeur which will be met with the steam roller of no money, no attendance, no NIL, no NCAA basketball shares etc.
That would be bonkersOk, so hear me out...
Gloria targets 2 football only Schools for expanded regional coverage with NIU and Toledo, adds 1 Texas school for all sports...
That's 10 football and 8 basketball programs...
So you swing for the fences and add Gonzaga and St. Mary's and now you balance 10 and 10...
I mean, that's one hell of a job as a commissioner if she can swing that