oneepstein said:

The only “known” year in and year out is Boise State… and their off season hasn’t even started yet. I suspect that they’ll find a way, because they always seem to, but fortunes can change quickly.

Everyone else in the conference has “potential” to be decent in any given season, but not by that much more.

If you look at the last 4 years of conference play it’s been reasonably dominant performances by the defector 5 compared to the remaining members… they’ve won roughly 61% of their games compared to 42% (thanks UNR and New Mexico). But over the last 2 years the gap has closed… they’ve won roughly defectors have averaged 4 wins and the remaining members have averaged 3.5 wins. CSU is the only one of them to have improved their win totals over the last two years, Boise has stayed the same, and the other three have declined.

As far as how OSU and WSU go? Who knows, but I would suspect them to usually be in the upper half at least initially.

Still better than the MW for sure, but aside from Boise there’s not a lot that you can count on.

And when they add whatever turd they have to add they’re gonna take a hit AND they’re barely going to be a conference. The AAC will have WAY more opportunities to bring back quality wins and East coast media bias is going to play a HUGE role in how those teams are perceived.

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rebel5280 said:

The big difference in what Prime did and what we will have to do is CU was in a P4 and playing against P4 competition, we will not be playing many of those types of games. If Mullen brings in the SEC types many of you think, we should be good going forward on talent alone against MWC competition. Now we may have to bring in 40, 50 or more new faces due to attrition but the last time I checked, we have 1 P4 game in UCLA next year, everyone else is a G5 level team and we should be the more talented team in those games. Mullen ain’t Prime and very few are when it comes to recruiting but if we get SEC type transfers like many of you think, we should be good for 10 or more wins next season based off of the talent that will be here.

I will believe it when I see it, as far as the so-called SEC talent comes flowing in but if he does get those types here, we should be fine and Mullen will be moving on in 2 years like Barry due to the success he will have here!

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j. spilotro said:

All they have to do is throw a million at the judge and then they’ll get their way, they’ll be happy, judge will be happy, judge will get caught … slap on the wrist … being corrupt is fashionable and fully acceptable now.

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Rebel1986 said:

There is a huge difference between what Deion walked into and what Mullen is walking into. Deion took over a 1-11 program while Mullen will take over a 11-3 program.

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Masked_rebel said:

Right up until enough of these guys get together on 1 lawsuit.

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unlove said:

I don’t have any insight in that regard, just basing it on having a few players enter the portal last year and deciding to stay plus the upward momentum of the program and bringing in CDM has got to be entering into their equation.

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dcut03 said:

It may up being a near complete rebuild from a personnel standpoint. But at least it wouldnt be from a perception standpoint.

It is easier to tunrover a roster these days but hard to be super successful right away that way. Look and Deion that first year. A lot of buzz, but they ended up being not very good that year. This year was much better.

Even before Odom left I thought we would likely take a step a back from graduation alone. A lot of things lined up to make this past season what it was.

I think we will be good next season, I think we will be a bowl team and still probably be in the mix for the MW championship game. I just don't think we will be winning double digit games


We do need to try to talk some players back and of course hit some doubles, triples, and least a solo home run or 2 in the portal.

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j. spilotro said:

And, to be fair. We have the whole Oct 1 thing slowing in him down too. Plus there was the on campus shooting just a year ago. You can see how those things added up might torpedo a program. If UNLV wasn’t so cutthroat about winning and had a gentle, softer side, they’d be humane and give him a four year extension.

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j. spilotro said:

All they have to do is throw a million at the judge and then they’ll get their way, they’ll be happy, judge will be happy, judge will get caught … slap on the wrist … being corrupt is fashionable and fully acceptable now.

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dcut03 said:

PAC will be solid top to bottom.
You know Utah State with Bronco will be good.
SDSU has a ton of potential to be good. Boise is Boise and Fresno is going to be at least solid every year. CSU is the question mark really, but there is potential there too.
OSU and WAZZU are also question marks. But again much better potential there vs a UTEP or a UNM for example. Depends on how they weather this offseason.
Not a lot of fat there. Their 8th member most likely will be that. But you can get away with that.
Top to bottom I think the PAC will be the best G6. AAC is pretty good at the top but have a lot of fat these days too. The MW will look like an A5 Japanese Wagyu ribeye

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LVRebel2000 said:

Yep, this is true. It's just a big if. In Deion's 1st year, he brought in like 80+ new players if I remember, and the team struggled. They were very good his 2nd year though, after turning over a number of those previous 80 with his 2nd recruiting/portal class

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oneepstein said:

G5 was only G5 because there was a “P5”. Now there is an A4 and everyone else is G6, except Notre Dame.

Objectively, of the remaining G6, I’d say the MW easily would rank third behind the AAC and the new PAC.

The PAC though isn’t even a conference yet, and whoever they add isn’t going to make that conference better. Oh, they’ll polish the hell outta the turd, but it won’t change perception. Add to that the fact that they’ll be at the bare minimum of teams and there are just less opportunities for your teams to go out into the non conference and bring back quality wins to boost SOS scores.

Is it still going to be a better conference than the MW? Yes. They’ll be behind the AAC though and have basically pigeon holed themselves into a regional conference with most of their teams in a single time zone.

The long term may work out for them, but it won’t take much to change that depending on what happens over the next few years.

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LINEBACKER_U said:

If we're good at the portal game we can upgrade our roster overall. I think this is where a coach with lots of sec ties can help. So many players in that conference that could be targets

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bcvegaspt2 said:

The classy thing is that most of these guys waited until after the bowl game.
If our bowl game was later in the month and the window was closed by then, this classiness wouldn't have happened.

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Mojo702 said:

You didn't read it

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bcvegaspt2 said:

There's a lot to unwrap in this post.

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RebelScrub said:

Dude that entire rebel defense is the cornerstone of Excellence.

nah, even though Imma Christian and tattoos are Old Testament and forbidden under the old law, I don’t like pain.

I would possibly get the Rebels Font on the Football helmet that earlier I did not recognize.

There’s this one chick at the gym, she could do it. She already agreed to sit on my face.

Bloodandtearstattoo on IG. and I already met the mom

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