Soul Cane said:

Duke spent 23.4 million in NIL money on their basketball team alone this season.

Tark knew even 50-60 years ago, the big programs bought players and there never was a level playing field.

But now the big programs are just poaching the best players from the mid major conferences.

The era of cinderella teams going deep in the tournament are probably over now.

College sports are really not than fun anymore unless you're a fan of one of the major blue blood programs.

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Is that $$ accurate? I heard Ohio State Football had $22 million in NIL this season but there are a lot more mouths to feed on a FB team.

Read a couple weeks ago he had opened up his recruiting, but I think Tyrin Jones is still committed maybe.

I think many fans have Dom Perignon taste, but unfortunately we’re on an Old Milwaukee budget.

LVRebel2000 said:

That's crazy. And it's only going to get worse until they make some rules to govern this nonsense.

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While Duke students pay close to $90,000 a year to attend school as well as being forced to pay an athletic fee that includes a chance to get into a lottery to attend basketball games. No doubt the courts need to get involved and stop any and all subsidies of millionaire athletes by students who are going into debt.

Maybe we get back to Tarks philosophy about getting transfers who already got their cars paid for. Although, in this case, it may be mansions and Lambo's paid for.

Pastner addressed recruiting the portal and having a good understanding or at least strong ideas of what it takes to do so. I think the coach should get a chance to implement his ideas on things. Who knows when or how things will be with NIL, that’s all guesswork but Josh has got ideas, it’s some of the reason why he wanted back in to coaching and I’m curious to see his game plan take shape.

As long as the transfer portal is a thing, recruiting as we knew it will be gone. Recruiting the portal is money with much less salesmanship, period!

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There’s going to be some kind of cap for NIL in the near future. Old school recruiting will matter again. Pastner surrounding himself with strong Xs and Os coach is very smart with him being such an elite recruiter and it being mostly about NIL the next few years

Who?

Soul Cane said:

Duke spent 23.4 million in NIL money on their basketball team alone this season.

Tark knew even 50-60 years ago, the big programs bought players and there never was a level playing field.

But now the big programs are just poaching the best players from the mid major conferences.

The era of cinderella teams going deep in the tournament are probably over now.

College sports are really not than fun anymore unless you're a fan of one of the major blue blood programs.

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That's crazy. And it's only going to get worse until they make some rules to govern this nonsense.

WarthogRebel said:

Is he still signed?

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No

Boston Rebel 2 said:

Except not everyone gets NIL or at least not large amounts. I imagine there are a ton of players at our level who will get a small amount that still have to be "recruited." Where 30 schools are offering the same $50K or so.

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They have to get some guidelines to save the game. Cap limit?? It think the best thing they can do is grant more eligibility so the talent is more spread out. Especially for the non P-4 schools. So maybe a player will stay another year or transfer to one once they play their 4 years at a p-4 school. I dont see how this can keep up.

TimothyC3 said:

The only recruiting that matters is the NIL. Its all about the NIL….

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Except not everyone gets NIL or at least not large amounts. I imagine there are a ton of players at our level who will get a small amount that still have to be "recruited." Where 30 schools are offering the same $50K or so.

saulpaul21 said:

You forget that Pastner is strong at recruiting.

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I remembered but was wondering if he is the only one.

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Duke spent 23.4 million in NIL money on their basketball team alone this season.

Tark knew even 50-60 years ago, the big programs bought players and there never was a level playing field.

But now the big programs are just poaching the best players from the mid major conferences.

The era of cinderella teams going deep in the tournament are probably over now.

College sports are really not than fun anymore unless you're a fan of one of the major blue blood programs.

It’s transfer portal and NIL money now!

Recruiting like we remember is gone!

The recruiting of transfer portal players is typically 3 weeks, recruiting players in the past was years of effort and now that has been reduced!

Recruiting high school kids will still take place I’m sure but the transfer portal takes priority now, you can go from “zero to hero” in one year with the right moves, and I believe Josh is up to the task!

TimothyC3 said:

The only recruiting that matters is the NIL. Its all about the NIL….

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I agree at some level but at UNLV’s current level it is talent identification is way more important. Look at the FAU squad from the final four most of the key players key contributors in the elite eight at different schools. None of the kids were even four stars out of high schools. Walter Clayton Jr 0 stars before going to Iona. Talent identification is super important in the NIL era if you can’t spend and then we would need to find a way to keep them. But also with many programs only looking at transfers there are a lot of better players are being under recruited as the P4 is looking to pick them up after they prove themselves.

Boston Rebel 2 said:

Can any of these guys recruit? Wilkins kind of strange that his only decent jobs were with Pastner. One year with Vandy and assume he was fired since no one goes from there to directional Texas.

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Not can any of these guys recruit? Rather can any of these guys convince boosters to support some recruits with additional NIL $$?

Welcome home JHawk. I’m hoping Marshall finds a place on the staff. Make him Dobo and call it a day

Sound like a custody battle. Who gets visitation this season?

Masked_rebel said:

So when do they start striping titles and wins from coaches as former players start admitting how much money they were getting under the table prior to NIL be a thing? It was still a rule and it was still being broken, even if its "acceptable" by todays modern game...

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Didn't they take Reggie Bush's Heismann away for the same thing. But Johnny Football still has his so the decided to give it back? Lol.

TimothyC3 said:

The only recruiting that matters is the NIL. Its all about the NIL….

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I think you're 90% right. Recruiting will matter when someone's got a similar offer from different programs which I think is probably going to be the end state of the system in its current iteration especially in the G5 salary area.