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SilverSpoon · 2024-09-22T18:08:54-0600

Meister_Rebel said:
I'd have to go UNM. Sure their football has sucked but, they did make and investment in bringing in Bronco Mendenhall as their coach this year. He may be able to get things going. Their basketball is good and as a revenue sport they will bring in some money. Future revenue sport of Women's basketball they are good there as well. With the women's basketball WSU is the only one right now that is worth anything. CSU has potential. The other three suck.

By the way your former women's volleyball assistant coach now head coach at reno has already won as many games this season as reno's old coach did in all of last year. You guys let a good one get away.

AFA needs to join the AAC. It makes too much sense at this point.

They'd be my first choice otherwise. That being said, it would 100% be UNM. USU has shown more promise, but those fans are BYU².

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-22T18:07:23-0600

Masked_rebel said:
Did you watch Friday night on the CW? Hows that any better...

As for the Idaho, Weber St. Sac St suggestion- no thanks. There's no market value there, they aren't ready for G5 level, and no one is tuning in to watch Weber St... at least Montana would draw eyes within the state of Montana and have facilities that could be G5 level, especially a full stadium every Saturday.

My point was the worse our conference affiliation is, the less exposure for the program.

So if you thought the CW was bad imagine what the MWC will have to cobble together next time around.

Yeah I go back and forth on what would be the best move in terms of additions.

Figure we'll likely need 5 if AFA leaves...

I could see an argument for going Texas State, Utep, Sam Houston State, NMSU, and then maybe Sac State?

Maybe say screw it Sac State, Plus both Dakota and Montana schools?

I really don't know...

And I'm really hoping we don't have to find out.

InZoneU · 2024-09-22T18:06:36-0600

Meister_Rebel said:
I'd have to go UNM. Sure their football has sucked but, they did make and investment in bringing in Bronco Mendenhall as their coach this year. He may be able to get things going. Their basketball is good and as a revenue sport they will bring in some money. Future revenue sport of Women's basketball they are good there as well. With the women's basketball WSU is the only one right now that is worth anything. CSU has potential. The other three suck.

By the way your former women's volleyball assistant coach now head coach at reno has already won as many games this season as reno's old coach did in all of last year. You guys let a good one get away.

Probably in the minority but I think UNM is valuable and has tons of upside. Snake is a national treasure.

Masked_rebel · 2024-09-22T17:55:16-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
Sad thing...

Any combo we put together...

Is pretty unappealing.

Catch all your UNLV football action this year On ESPN 9...Or your Uncle Lou's house. Sometimes if he positions the rabbit ears just right and stands on one leg while holding a skillet he can get the game.

Did you watch Friday night on the CW? Hows that any better...

As for the Idaho, Weber St. Sac St suggestion- no thanks. There's no market value there, they aren't ready for G5 level, and no one is tuning in to watch Weber St... at least Montana would draw eyes within the state of Montana and have facilities that could be G5 level, especially a full stadium every Saturday.

Rebel1986 · 2024-09-22T17:54:47-0600

Meister_Rebel said:
I may not be reading you correctly. If you get 6 of 8 (75%) to dissolve the conference then the two votes voting to keep the conference just lost.

That is only if Hawaii gets a vote, and I am fairly certain they do not have a vote.

Rebel1986 · 2024-09-22T17:51:07-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
Congrats to UNLV for being ranked. I'll stop over next Saturday night win or lose. Should be a great game.

Tripod, your hate is palpable. Did some handsome Coug steal your GF or sleep with your wife or what? Do you hate OSU as much, or is it just WSU?

That gets a little confusing. A cougar is considered a hot older women going after a younger guy?

Rebel1986 · 2024-09-22T17:49:47-0600

dcut03 said:
I think they will have to make it as an at large that 12th spot is for thr 5th highest rated conference champion. The PAC doesn't count as a conference this year. So they basically have to be at least top 11 in the playoff ranking, maybe higher depending on the other conference champions

I know it has nothing to do with them, but from what I understand the 4 highest ranked conference champions get the first four spots. While not likely, it would be possible for the MWC to have one of the 4 highest spots, or does that exclude the group of 5 conferences?

Meister_Rebel · 2024-09-22T17:42:52-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
Who do YOU guys want to have join you?

I'd have to go UNM. Sure their football has sucked but, they did make and investment in bringing in Bronco Mendenhall as their coach this year. He may be able to get things going. Their basketball is good and as a revenue sport they will bring in some money. Future revenue sport of Women's basketball they are good there as well. With the women's basketball WSU is the only one right now that is worth anything. CSU has potential. The other three suck.

By the way your former women's volleyball assistant coach now head coach at reno has already won as many games this season as reno's old coach did in all of last year. You guys let a good one get away.

saulpaul21 · 2024-09-22T17:35:45-0600

As it seems exit fees too high, and rewards too little to make a new pac12, how about a "do over"? Mvc votes to disband and take top 9 of mwc to pac12 and adds a school or 3 down the road. That way pac keeps more money and unlv cuts dead wood out of mwc and goes to a slightly upgrade conference.

And do not agree to any big exit fee should b12 come calling.

SilverSpoon · 2024-09-22T17:30:07-0600

UNLV is in an amazing spot. Good and bad. Either way... Maize! If our Prez and AD are competent, it'll be GOOD!

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-22T17:25:17-0600

LocoRebel said:
If I'm rebuilding the MWC with the assumption that AFA is out, and otherwise it's intact:

Sac State
Idaho
Weber State

With all three, you'd need some assurance that they'd invest a certain dollar amount and/or percentage of revenue from conference into direct upgrades. Sac State and Idaho are the two obvious ones to me. I don't know if you could get the Montana or Dakota schools (any of the 6) without something in a contract about "what happens if everyone leaves us" and you (MWC) would probably have to cover the $5mil fee to move up to FBS.

I think you'd have to go after NMSU and UTEP just to grab the only 2 teams you have a shot at. I don't know if UTSA or Texas State would leave the American or Sun Belt respective. Likely no.

North Texas is extremely unappealing to me.

Sad thing...

Any combo we put together...

Is pretty unappealing.

Catch all your UNLV football action this year On ESPN 9...Or your Uncle Lou's house. Sometimes if he positions the rabbit ears just right and stands on one leg while holding a skillet he can get the game.

LocoRebel · 2024-09-22T17:12:06-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
Who do YOU guys want to have join you?

If UNLV got to determine who were to theoretically join the Pac 12 with them as 7 and 8?

If only one, I'd want it to be geographic. No need for a geographic outlier all alone. Probably USU. I don't hate Sac State being given the chance, but would need some kind of assurance to upgrade facilities (as they have publicly stated they intend to do) both hoops and football. Only been to Hornet Stadium once, and it was when the UFL CA Mountain Lions (they might have been the Redwoods at the time?) played the Locos. Definitely need something better, probably would need something better even for a MWC light invite.

But ideally if UNLV was one of four, I'd want UTSA, Texas State, and one of either Memphis or Tulane. Fall back plan to USU or Sac State.

LocoRebel · 2024-09-22T17:06:35-0600

Bullmastiff 1 said:
That's the rub isn't it..

Do you go heavy on Texas schools?

Take the top of CUSA?

Grab both Dakota's and Montana's?

Realistic options aren't great to be honest.

If I'm rebuilding the MWC with the assumption that AFA is out, and otherwise it's intact:

Sac State
Idaho
Weber State

With all three, you'd need some assurance that they'd invest a certain dollar amount and/or percentage of revenue from conference into direct upgrades. Sac State and Idaho are the two obvious ones to me. I don't know if you could get the Montana or Dakota schools (any of the 6) without something in a contract about "what happens if everyone leaves us" and you (MWC) would probably have to cover the $5mil fee to move up to FBS.

I think you'd have to go after NMSU and UTEP just to grab the only 2 teams you have a shot at. I don't know if UTSA or Texas State would leave the American or Sun Belt respective. Likely no.

North Texas is extremely unappealing to me.

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-22T16:39:46-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
Who do YOU guys want to have join you?

Oops misread that one.

In terms of joining the PAC with us...Tough call some decent arguments for a few..

1- USU
1a- SJSU
2 UNM
3 Reno
4 Wyoming

I didn't include Hawaii not sure PAC would invite football only.

Didn't include AFA because I don't think they are sticking around.

Masked_rebel · 2024-09-22T16:27:49-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
Who do YOU guys want to have join you?

If we're talking MWC schools, I'd take Utah St. They draw good football crowds, they're decent in football and basketball.

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-22T16:21:56-0600

InZoneU said:
Exactly. Schedule good OOC games, win those and run your conference. Conference means dyck. I don't think we were complaining about being in the PCC or BW when we were winning and I think winning games against Cal St. Fullerton didn't really matter in the long run.

Then why do teams leave conferences?

If you are scheduling 'up' you absolutely have to win them.

Because an in conference loss kills you in the rankings if you are playing in the Sunbelt or the equivalent of CUSA.

Better conference competition allows for some wiggle room.

Basketball and football aren't comparable.

You're bringing up a by gone era of college Basketball.

If the PAC12 had offered UNLV an invite in the 90s, UNLV would absolutely have told Cal Fulerton and the rest peace out boys.

bcvegaspt2 · 2024-09-22T16:19:19-0600

LocoRebel said:
Probably the best team with Houston in its name.

Houston, Sam Houston, Houston Christian (formerly Houston Baptist)... is there a Houston State?

Also: this was a great response, so thanks for that 🤣

I appreciate your sense of humor, too.

LocoRebel · 2024-09-22T16:13:11-0600

bcvegaspt2 said:
Sam Houston State happens to have the best football team of all the schools with “Sam Houston” in their name, so there’s that.

Probably the best team with Houston in its name.

Houston, Sam Houston, Houston Christian (formerly Houston Baptist)... is there a Houston State?

Also: this was a great response, so thanks for that 🤣

bcvegaspt2 · 2024-09-22T16:11:47-0600

LocoRebel said:
Oh really? So 2-6 combined record with only FCS wins are quality?

Good for UNLV? Absolutely. Not the same as Oregon.

Edit: looks like rice was the Houston win.

Rice also got blown out by something called Sam Houston State

Sam Houston State happens to have the best football team of all the schools with “Sam Houston” in their name, so there’s that.

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-22T16:11:11-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
Who do YOU guys want to have join you?

That's the rub isn't it..

Do you go heavy on Texas schools?

Take the top of CUSA?

Grab both Dakota's and Montana's?

Realistic options aren't great to be honest.

InZoneU · 2024-09-22T16:00:53-0600

TimothyC3 said:
This is my prediction when it comes to the playoffs. G5 conference affiliation will have little impact. What will matter is wins against the P4. Odom was clever in his scheduling. He is the only G5 program to schedule 3 P4 opponents and the only G5 school that is 2-0 on the road against the P4. Syracuse is important. A win at home UNLV will be 3-0 against the P4 and it doesn’t matter whether they are a member of the MWC, MAC or AAC. What will matter is a 3-0 record against the P4. Assuming equal win-loss at the end of the year at say 11-1 and UNLV is one of 2-3 G5 with the same record, UNLV will get the nod.

Exactly. Schedule good OOC games, win those and run your conference. Conference means dyck. I don't think we were complaining about being in the PCC or BW when we were winning and I think winning games against Cal St. Fullerton didn't really matter in the long run.

Loyal Coug1 · 2024-09-22T15:59:15-0600

Masked_rebel said:
You don't want SJSU... they just finished renovating their stadium so it's not likely getting much bigger and they're terrible at basketball... Utah St makes a better argument as they have a decent football environment and basketball has been good...

Who do YOU guys want to have join you?

Masked_rebel · 2024-09-22T15:45:04-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
As stated previously, the good news is that the MW will remain at 11/12 (Incl. Hawaii) for 2 more years. Then comes the 2-year grace period, assuming that the provision still applies. Lots of time to worry about retrenching. And yeah the remaining schools will be well off thanks to all the poaching and exit fees. But UNLV won't care because you are coming to join the Pac. Just figure out who should join with you. CSU will want Wyoming or AF. BSU will probably want Wyoming. I'm really starting to lean towards SJSU if they can get off their ass and fix their stadium size. Otherwise your mother ship Reno or USU.

You don't want SJSU... they just finished renovating their stadium so it's not likely getting much bigger and they're terrible at basketball... Utah St makes a better argument as they have a decent football environment and basketball has been good...

Loyal Coug1 · 2024-09-22T15:43:03-0600

1Tripoda said:
WSU will get creamed, Loyal Coug

Edit: Just check the schedule, WSU is going to play BSU in Boise with Boise being ranked for the first time? You're going to have jiss all over your face.

Congrats to UNLV for being ranked. I'll stop over next Saturday night win or lose. Should be a great game.

Tripod, your hate is palpable. Did some handsome Coug steal your GF or sleep with your wife or what? Do you hate OSU as much, or is it just WSU?

Bullmastiff 1 · 2024-09-22T15:42:15-0600

Loyal Coug1 said:
I already posted this, but will again. You ARE correct that UNLV became D-1 in 1978, see last quote below. WSU welcomed them with open arms.....

"The first college classes, which eventually became the classes of UNLV, were offered as the southern regional extension division of the University of Nevada in 1959 in a classroom at Las Vegas High School.

In 1965, the Nevada Legislature named the school Nevada Southern University, and the Board of Regents hired the campus's first president,

In 1968, Nevada Southern was given equal status with its parent institution in Reno.

After ten years as a Division II independent, the program made the jump to the Division I level in 1978, independent of any conference affiliation. On September 9, the Rebels played their first game as a Division I school, losing to Washington State 7–34. "

You only beat us by 27? Weak sauce!

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