Meister_Rebel said:

Nice complement to the Israeli girl, Hodaya, coming in. Both 5'10" guards.

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She will, somewhat lessen the blow of losing Amarchi Kimpson, who went to Miami of the ACC.
Also, McKinna Brackens went to ASU to play for Head Coach Molly Miller.

The action is not fast and furious just yet but Josh did say that in the NIL era, it takes about 3 weeks from initial contact to done deal with potential targets so I hope next week things pick up for us then!

Mom sounds like a handful.

Gibbs-Lawhorn’s mother did not help the situation in the eyes of many fans, as she was known to go after the coaching staff and fans on X throughout the season. That continued to the end. She mocked her son getting pulled out of the team’s final game after committing a foul, writing, “Is DGL REALLY aloud to remain in game after a foul??’nn WWAAATTTT the hell os staff doing??! PULL HIM THE F**K OUT.”

Boston Rebel 2 said:

I don't understand why these stupid schools don't sign them to contracts you take the money you are here for x period. That ends any negotiations mid contract. What's next someone demanding more money before they participate in the title game?

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I believe the reason is in one program wants a contract then another will step up and do a deal without one. ALL programs need contracts of a similar nature for there to be any control.

I might be wrong ,but looking at his Assists and his highlights seems like he does not like to pass much. Looks athletic and can finish decent. I hope he has a big jump from last year. 25% from 3 from your guard is not what you would hope for.


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WYNN or Dye said:

Picked up, former Fresno St SG Mariah Elohim.

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That name means “God of the Israelites” in Hebrew!

I don't understand why these stupid schools don't sign them to contracts you take the money you are here for x period. That ends any negotiations mid contract. What's next someone demanding more money before they participate in the title game?

dcut03 said:

I don't blame DJ for playing "selfishly". Just because he is played exactly like every other lead guard we have had under Kevin Kruger. Hard to blame him for not sharing the ball when it seemed to be very clearly NOT a focus of the offense under CKK.

I do appreciate that he stayed home for a discount. He didn't have to do that. He also upheld his 2 year agreement ( minus a few games). He could have left after year one as well.

I don't like that he sat out the last few games, that was weaksauce.

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Picked up, former Fresno St SG Mariah Elohim.

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Nice complement to the Israeli girl, Hodaya, coming in. Both 5'10" guards.

Rebel1986 said:

If the pay for college players ever really gets tied to actual name and image, most of them will be lucky if they get 5% of what they currently get. Everything now is tied to cash bribes to play at a given school because of a booster or alumni that wants to win games with zero consideration to the actual worth of the players. It would not surprise me to see BYU end up playing in the final 4 every year. My expectation is that the days of schools like Gonzaga getting to the sweet sixteen or above may be few and far between unless they have a magical booster willing to provide 10's of millions!

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Your point is perfect for BYU.

As far as Gonzaga goes they seem to be unique. Unique in the fact that they have been winners for so many years they have a National following and that's lead to multiple big money donors from all across the country.

There will come a point that $$ won't be able to guarantee success. No matter how much money there are only so many players. There are 1185 roster spots on P4 plus Big East teams . ( 79 teams ) IMO only about 300 of those are prime players ( perhaps less since only 60 get drafted each year and some of those don't pan out). That's enough for 20 teams. That leaves 59 teams unable to stock up no matter what. Even if it's split more evenly something like 1/2 the teams won't be able to buy a championship - just through lack of talent.

Then we get to G5. UGH!!

The question is, what if he ended up here? Lol

Boston Rebel 2 said:

It's funny how many people abuse press passes. My Dad's boss had one for Playboy and in the 80s he used it to get us into the best fights. Saw Leonard/Duran I in closed circuit, Leonard/Hearns, Leonard/Hagler, a few of Holmes fights (Witherspoon, Cooney), Bobby Chacon vs someone.

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This is the best kind of abuse, manufactured access! Lol

bcvegaspt2 said:

Does he renegotiate mid season?

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That would be unprecedented

dcut03 said:

Because it was> 27 months. That is why. The 10 million exit fee had no bearing.

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Source: AAC asks for additional $35M from schools wanting to leave early for Big 12​

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The AAC has asked the Houston, UCF and Cincinnati to "each pay an additional $35 million to leave early for the Big 12," according to a source cited by Joseph Duarte of the HOUSTON CHRONICLE. The additional amount is on top of the $10M exit fee, meaning the three schools "would each be on the hook" for $45M to exit in '23. The schools accepted invitations to join the Big 12 last September but are "contractually required to remain in the AAC" through '24. "

So it looks like the 18 was negotiated down from as much as 45 mil. It also looks like SMU did reduce their payout to 27 million themselves as well

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Okay, that makes sense that it was down to 18 from the requested 35, but IMO, the only reason it was negotiated in the first place, is because that is how the bylaws read. If they had given the 27 month notice, it would have been $10M, no questions asked. Since it was less than 27 months, the bylaws stated that it would be a negotiated settlement.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MWC bylaws are pretty clear. With at least a years notice, it's around $18M. If it's less than that, the fee doubles to around $36M. I don't see anything about a negotiated payment like was in the AAC docs.

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That was a few years ago, and inflation/media value has balooned significantly. The PAC was getting about 20 mil per year, and ESPN offered 30 mil AFTER the Cali schools left, the most valuable market in the conference.
The MW is hopefully expected to make the same after losing our best markets and adding lesser markets that likely drop the mean value for the conference as a hole.

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You cannot seriously be suggesting USU is as valuable to a media partner as Houston. Or that Fresno is as valuable as SMU was at that time. Or SDSU who has pretty poor market penetration is any more valuable than Cincy.

The PAC s top three brands are smaller markets.

Wolken in his article said media insiders did not value Memphis highly and valued WSU/OSU only slightly more. There's a reason that OSU/WSU were left behind. Same reason UNLV UNM RENO did, we didn't meet the metrics.

Could the PAC get to 12 -14 million per? Sure but not through linear. The idea they would take up the 'late times slots' is kinda funny. If those time slots are valuable, the BIG 10 just plops USC, Oregon, Washington and UCLA.

They likely are on the CW or Turner networks with a streaming option that all their fans will bitch and complain about. I would not be shocked if they have to play Tuesday night games. Not ideal for fan experience. Actually pretty awful potentially for attendance especially OSU/WSU who a lot of their fans have to travel 45 minutes or more to attend games.

They'll get more than MWC. How much more id the question. It's definitely not the 18 million they were touting early in.

Better way to do this. Apple TV offered old PAC 18 or 20 million.

Oregon v Oregon State
Washington vs WSU
UTAH Vs USU
CU Vs CSU
ASU vs SDSU
CAL vs FRESNO
UofA vs Gonzaga
Stanford vs Boise

And before you make the argument that we can't use OSU/WSU since they were in both I'll point out both the BIG AND BIG12 passed on them so their value cannot be all that high. If it was, they would have been invited.

I did in state as much as possible because we are talking market penetration.

Tell me one time the new PAC school offers more value than old PAC school to a media partner.

Boise and Stanford probably. Because if you say OSU/WSU/CSU/USU I will question your sanity or current alcohol consumption.

If PAC deal was 12-14 I think the deal is done and they have their 8th already.

I think they may hit 10.

I hate this nonsense. They really need to get this dialed in quickly. How long before the players Unionize?

WYNN or Dye said:

I, think it's a biblical name. Welcome, aboard Elohim to the Lady Rebel family.

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Elohim is the plural form of God. (Gods)

RebelScrub said:

Elohim…that’s a cool last name.

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I, think it's a biblical name. Welcome, aboard Elohim to the Lady Rebel family.

harryson said:

Jump on most peoples boats like this and that would have been the end of his story! Forcing your way onto someones boat in the ocean is piracy, and most people that go out on boats alone carry!

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Should have busted out the fish filleting knife..

gentlemen repel all boarders!!

WYNN or Dye said:

Picked up, former Fresno St SG Mariah Elohim.

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Elohim…that’s a cool last name.

dcut03 said:

Becuase the GOR has additional specific language protecting the MW even further. We could leave, but all media revenue we earn would still go to the MW. This is why Clemson and FSU is locked in the the ACC.

Could that be sued upon and legally be voided? Maybe. Clemson and FSU are having issues.

But the point that signing the GOR when we did at the very least made things even tougher for UNLV to leave. We had a lot more information when we signed the document vs verbally agreeing at the time. That is what bothers me.

And nothing was binding until we signed it. So the duress argument is much much weaker for UNLV, vs the PAC 2 which had less than a year to figure out their schedules. We had several months to watch things play out before signing.

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I just laid out why the PAC duress argument is nonsense.

They could have done a scgeduling agreement with CUSA.

If they cry regionalism you simply point to their attempt to add Memphis and Tulane and UTSA and South Florida.

The second the dollar total got too high PAC could have walked out and signed a deal with CUSA for fraction of the cost.

Once he signs a contract, he won’t be happy that someone elsewhere earns more than him. Does he renegotiate mid season?