We used to double some of these schools’ max capacity.
Arenas of FF schools
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We used to double some of these schools’ max capacity.
“Used” being the key word. Now can’t fill Cox.
Unfortunately the Mack has outlived its purpose. It was built primarily for hosting large events (mostly boxing) to support gaming and tourism visitation. At that time it wasn’t feasible for resorts to have their own arenas. Secondary purpose was a home venue for UNLV basketball. Of course at that time UNLV was the only game in town and the program was at its best under Tark. It worked, the arena was very profitable.
Now the dynamics supporting the Mack are gone. Gamers have their own venues for major events and they don’t like the Mack competing with them to draw events, which it can’t do much anymore bc it’s too outdated. It’s functional only for NFR and that’s only bc the other gaming arenas do not have a convenient place for the animals (except for South Point but its seating capacity is too small). Meanwhile UNLV cannot afford the operations of the Mack. Even with MBB filling the arena it’s questionable whether it breaks even at some point the state is not going to continue to subsidize the cost of O&M for the Mack. It’s the equivalent of Allegiant losing the Raiders. No way could UNLV afford to play in it. At some point the Mack will need to be downsized which frankly would make for a better game-day experience and better support the program.
Now the dynamics supporting the Mack are gone. Gamers have their own venues for major events and they don’t like the Mack competing with them to draw events, which it can’t do much anymore bc it’s too outdated. It’s functional only for NFR and that’s only bc the other gaming arenas do not have a convenient place for the animals (except for South Point but its seating capacity is too small). Meanwhile UNLV cannot afford the operations of the Mack. Even with MBB filling the arena it’s questionable whether it breaks even at some point the state is not going to continue to subsidize the cost of O&M for the Mack. It’s the equivalent of Allegiant losing the Raiders. No way could UNLV afford to play in it. At some point the Mack will need to be downsized which frankly would make for a better game-day experience and better support the program.
Maybe UNLV needs to start selling tickets for the basketball games like Allegiant does for UNLV football games. Only sell the lower bowl seats initially, until it's at 90% capacity or so. Then open up sections of the balcony seating as needed.
They can't sell those tickets at that price. The reason people buy balcony seats is because they get cheaper tickets and still move down after tip...
And I've been told by other fans that you can't lower ticket prices because that devalues season ticket holders, lol...
This is such an obvious path to take there has to be some reason we don't do it. For the life of me I can't think of it.
If things don't pick up, in another season or two they will be able to put the tickets in bowls on bar tops next to the free bar peanuts for people to take.
That is definitely true we have done that ourselves for the 2-3 games we have been to the last few years and I know tons more who do the same. So if they block out the top will people who buy tickets to the top now buy in the bottom or stop going all together? We don't go to many games so we would likely still go but not sure if others would.
Yeah, but how many season ticket holders are there these days? Maybe they need to completely redo all of the season ticket prices. If the people that are buying balcony seats are coming down anyways, why not make some lower bowl seats more affordable and close off the balcony?
How many season ticket holders are even left? I’d be shocked if it were above 3000. Seems like there is more upside financially to lower season tickets so you can attract larger crowds with reasonable ticket prices, of course that’s assuming the team actually performs well enough to attract folks to the games. It may just be a simple calculation that maintaining season ticket prices with a mediocre team brings in more revenues than trying to attract more fans with lower prices.
They have lowered UNLV basketball tickets a long ways in the last few years. You can buy season tickets for a little over $100 upstairs!
Use the same model for pricing used by Utah State. Their arena seats 10,000 in a single bowl.
Plus, they need to come up with a way to make it a party. Utah State has a ton of students that go to the games. I know UNLV is a large commuter campus but there are still a lot of students on campus or nearby. Figure out how to get them to games and to be loud.Use the same model for pricing used by Utah State. Their arena seats 10,000 in a single bowl.
Like win, play an attractive style of ball, not get blown out at home by quad 4 teams
I get the idea,but closing off the the top doesn't make as much sense as gor Allegiant.
The T&M shares amenities between the decks. At Allegiant it requires more staffing when the upper deck is open.
Closing off the top and raising prices seems backwards.
I think an official trade up program could work. Bring you upper deck ticket to the game and 30 min before tip you can trade your ticket for a lower bowl ticket officially. Something like that?
The T&M shares amenities between the decks. At Allegiant it requires more staffing when the upper deck is open.
Closing off the top and raising prices seems backwards.
I think an official trade up program could work. Bring you upper deck ticket to the game and 30 min before tip you can trade your ticket for a lower bowl ticket officially. Something like that?
IMO, an open upper deck makes a bad look even worse. And I don't think ticket prices have to rise. Take the current uppers and make them upper end zone tickets. There are seldom more than 300 people there anyway.
That would just hurt sales. How do you think people feel when they find out they part far more for their tickets that those sitting next to them. What they could do is working on allowing people to by reduced food packages with seats UPSTAIRS, tie in events to different corporations to give their employees to games, etc..
The bottom line is that nothing will get better until they win games and schedule better teams at home! It will also help of the coach is much more involved with the public in selling the program to potential fans!
I was hipefyl that recent NET changes would create an incentive to schedule true home and home again. That hasn't happened yet around the country.
Teams would rather play most of the their tougher OOC in tournaments and neutral sites.
Quality of home opponent may not happen, just because it isn't happening as much around the country. Home and homes woth the Memphis' and the Daytons of the world are realistically as good as we can probably do right now.
Hopefully if UNLV is a fixture in the top 75 then scheduling quality opponents would be easier being a quad 1 game for them. But we haven't seen that around the country yet.
Thise that complain about our home schedule should look at others first in our league and then around G5. Then even in the power leagues. There just aren't many big time home and homes anymore.
Fans need to understand that the quality home games probably won't happen like they used to
Teams would rather play most of the their tougher OOC in tournaments and neutral sites.
Quality of home opponent may not happen, just because it isn't happening as much around the country. Home and homes woth the Memphis' and the Daytons of the world are realistically as good as we can probably do right now.
Hopefully if UNLV is a fixture in the top 75 then scheduling quality opponents would be easier being a quad 1 game for them. But we haven't seen that around the country yet.
Thise that complain about our home schedule should look at others first in our league and then around G5. Then even in the power leagues. There just aren't many big time home and homes anymore.
Fans need to understand that the quality home games probably won't happen like they used to
Win games... if UNLV returns to the top 25 regularly and wins home games near perfection, it will be full again. That's really all it takes. You add 3k plus in students with 10k paying ticket holders and you'd find more full arena than empty evem with terrible opponents. It's fun to win, it sucks to watch uninspired and nail biting play vs bad teams.. Just win
22' season started out winning I believe it was seven of eight. crowd was starting to really get back in it. Attendance creeping up . But yeah Wheels came off. I think the end for me was that Air Force game needed a last second Steal to win the game when should have won by 20. Turnover after turnover sloppy poor coached Just Kruger ball lost all interest. Should have been booted imo. Worst thing that could have happened was that nit run last year but hey it was even gaining enthusiasm. So yes winning will run its course. Nobody is going to pay to come watch a team lose at home to mediocrity.
