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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Well I seem to remember people saying Odom wouldn't leave for a middling P4 job when he could guide UNLV to potential CFP births every year...That money wasn't everything etc etc.

Sounded plausible until 6 million per year showed up.

Never discount generational wealth.

Imagine having the ability to hand all of your kids a home with no mortgage and starting their adult lifevwith no college debt. That is a massive head start.

That's not the type of money you look at and say 'meh'.

Odom likely will struggle to get Purdue turned around. But it will hardly derail his career. He won't be out of football long or without work.

Even if he fails, he lands another DC job with millions in the bank and continuing to do something he loves which is be around football.

Even if he fails at Purdue he's a young enough guy his work at UNLV would get him another G6 job at some point.

Love to hear how that's a sad ending to his story..
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It’s not a giant gap, where Odom is making millions more. His take home pay is probably 3.7 million at Purdue after taxes etc. Mullen is making 2.2 or 2.5 at unlv (after taxes etc).

Generational? Hardly.
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Marion taking UNR’s best RB

Bullmastiff 1
InZoneU said:
It's kind of retarded when you consider that both Boise and Reno were D2 and they had no issues. There is no difference between hi-end FCS and low end FBS. Nothing at all. In fact, they probably have better programs at hi-end FCS.

Also, the Sam Houston game is not going to be a pushover like Utah Tech was last year. I am legit concerned with that first game. Another program that was FCS not long ago.
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Agreed.

Minimum you add NDSU.

I'd also be on the phone with SAC State. They are putting money into the program now. Have made some splashy hires. That equals eyeballs on tv. Large TV market as well.
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Marion taking UNR’s best RB

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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Go look at all future MWC conference game ratings across all outlets and get back to me. And take out any P4 matchups that inflate them. Another way to look at it. ESPN put NDSU and South Dakota State on why not UNM? Or SJSU? Reno got on but that was vs SMU.

PAC didn't add any FCS but Texas State might be in play. You think Texas State was on their bingo card at the start of this.

NDSU is a better option for the MWC than any FBS school they can reasonably entice.

You want NMSU?
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It's kind of retarded when you consider that both Boise and Reno were D2 and they had no issues. There is no difference between hi-end FCS and low end FBS. Nothing at all. In fact, they probably have better programs at hi-end FCS.

Also, the Sam Houston game is not going to be a pushover like Utah Tech was last year. I am legit concerned with that first game. Another program that was FCS not long ago.
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Pastner Coaching Characteristics ( AI Search )

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WarthogRebel said:
Ran an AI search asking about the key characteristics of a Pastner team. I think the main differences will be # 2 and # 3.

Josh Pastner's teams typically exhibit the following characteristics based on his coaching tenure at Georgia Tech and Memphis:
1. Defensive Focus
Pastner's teams prioritize defensive intensity, often ranking among the nation's top defensive units. At Georgia Tech, his squads consistently ranked highly in defensive efficiency, with players like Jose Alvarado (ACC Defensive Player of the Year) anchoring a disruptive system13.
2. Player Development
He excels at identifying and developing under-the-radar talent, transforming players like Moses Wright (ACC Player of the Year) and Jose Alvarado into NBA-caliber prospects. Six of his Georgia Tech players earned All-ACC honors, with multiple reaching professional leagues17.
3. High-Energy Style
His teams play with up-tempo energy and emphasize creative offensive schemes, though offensive execution has historically been less consistent than defense. At Tech, his later teams showed marked improvements in scoring efficiency and three-point shooting16.
4. Resilience in Adversity
Pastner's squads often overachieve relative to preseason expectations, as seen in his 2016-17 Georgia Tech team that reached the NIT finals despite low projections. His 2021 ACC Championship team rallied from an 0-2 start to win 11 of its final 13 ACC games13.
5. Late-Season Momentum
A trademark of Pastner's best teams is strong finishes, exemplified by Tech's eight-game winning streak (last six regular-season games and two ACC Tournament wins) en route to the 2021 conference title13.
6. Recruiting Challenges
While capable of finding hidden gems, Pastner's teams have sometimes underperformed relative to recruiting rankings, particularly at Georgia Tech where roster limitations occasionally hindered consistency48.
7. Community Engagement
Pastner emphasizes culture-building, with peers like Leonard Hamilton praising his ability to foster player commitment. His teams often reflect his own high-energy personality in both play style and community involvement15.
Key Differentiators
  • NBA Pipeline: Despite middling team records, he produced multiple NBA players (Okogie, Alvarado, Wright) from unheralded recruits17.
  • Adaptability: Shifted strategies successfully at Tech, moving from defense-first to a more balanced approach by 202113.
  • Clutch Performances: His best teams excel in close games, with the 2021 squad going 6-1 in games decided by five points or fewer1.
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AI is something else!
If I had AI back in high school and college… Lol
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Pastner Coaching Characteristics ( AI Search )

WarthogRebel
Ran an AI search asking about the key characteristics of a Pastner team. I think the main differences will be # 2 and # 3.

Josh Pastner's teams typically exhibit the following characteristics based on his coaching tenure at Georgia Tech and Memphis:
1. Defensive Focus
Pastner's teams prioritize defensive intensity, often ranking among the nation's top defensive units. At Georgia Tech, his squads consistently ranked highly in defensive efficiency, with players like Jose Alvarado (ACC Defensive Player of the Year) anchoring a disruptive system13.
2. Player Development
He excels at identifying and developing under-the-radar talent, transforming players like Moses Wright (ACC Player of the Year) and Jose Alvarado into NBA-caliber prospects. Six of his Georgia Tech players earned All-ACC honors, with multiple reaching professional leagues17.
3. High-Energy Style
His teams play with up-tempo energy and emphasize creative offensive schemes, though offensive execution has historically been less consistent than defense. At Tech, his later teams showed marked improvements in scoring efficiency and three-point shooting16.
4. Resilience in Adversity
Pastner's squads often overachieve relative to preseason expectations, as seen in his 2016-17 Georgia Tech team that reached the NIT finals despite low projections. His 2021 ACC Championship team rallied from an 0-2 start to win 11 of its final 13 ACC games13.
5. Late-Season Momentum
A trademark of Pastner's best teams is strong finishes, exemplified by Tech's eight-game winning streak (last six regular-season games and two ACC Tournament wins) en route to the 2021 conference title13.
6. Recruiting Challenges
While capable of finding hidden gems, Pastner's teams have sometimes underperformed relative to recruiting rankings, particularly at Georgia Tech where roster limitations occasionally hindered consistency48.
7. Community Engagement
Pastner emphasizes culture-building, with peers like Leonard Hamilton praising his ability to foster player commitment. His teams often reflect his own high-energy personality in both play style and community involvement15.
Key Differentiators
  • NBA Pipeline: Despite middling team records, he produced multiple NBA players (Okogie, Alvarado, Wright) from unheralded recruits17.
  • Adaptability: Shifted strategies successfully at Tech, moving from defense-first to a more balanced approach by 202113.
  • Clutch Performances: His best teams excel in close games, with the 2021 squad going 6-1 in games decided by five points or fewer1.
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Marion taking UNR’s best RB

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Just some stuff on Sac St, there's been huge movement on NIL since around Oct 2024 if I recall, initial securing of $35mm with an eventual goal of $75mm+ from the (SAC-12?) I think was the group name, committee or whatever. I am pretty sure all their sports are going to me moving up very very soon.

On top of that, Shaq was just announced to be their basketball "GM" to work on recruiting (though how much he will do is to be seen as he is doing this voluntarily), brand deals, NIL and some other things. Think Mike Bibby is the HC there now? Shaq's son was Bibby's first official commit.

Think they are getting serious if all this chatter around the web and twitter are to be believed.
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Tamper

Bullmastiff 1 said:
Well I seem to remember people saying Odom wouldn't leave for a middling P4 job when he could guide UNLV to potential CFP births every year...That money wasn't everything etc etc.

Sounded plausible until 6 million per year showed up.

Never discount generational wealth.

Imagine having the ability to hand all of your kids a home with no mortgage and starting their adult lifevwith no college debt. That is a massive head start.

That's not the type of money you look at and say 'meh'.

Odom likely will struggle to get Purdue turned around. But it will hardly derail his career. He won't be out of football long or without work.

Even if he fails, he lands another DC job with millions in the bank and continuing to do something he loves which is be around football.

Even if he fails at Purdue he's a young enough guy his work at UNLV would get him another G6 job at some point.

Love to hear how that's a sad ending to his story..
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I’m not going to agree with you - I don’t need an essay every time
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Tamper

Bullmastiff 1
Rod_the_Rebel said:
You’re too focused on the dollar bro.
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Well I seem to remember people saying Odom wouldn't leave for a middling P4 job when he could guide UNLV to potential CFP births every year...That money wasn't everything etc etc.

Sounded plausible until 6 million per year showed up.

Never discount generational wealth.

Imagine having the ability to hand all of your kids a home with no mortgage and starting their adult lifevwith no college debt. That is a massive head start.

That's not the type of money you look at and say 'meh'.

Odom likely will struggle to get Purdue turned around. But it will hardly derail his career. He won't be out of football long or without work.

Even if he fails, he lands another DC job with millions in the bank and continuing to do something he loves which is be around football.

Even if he fails at Purdue he's a young enough guy his work at UNLV would get him another G6 job at some point.

Love to hear how that's a sad ending to his story..
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