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Rosegreen1
lvrebalum2012 said:
Have you been to snapdragon? In order to host a major event like a Super Bowl, they’d need ALOT more features/amenities than just 15k more seats.
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Have you seen Jack Murphy/quallcomm when they hosted the SB 20 years ago? It was a dump then. New Orleans isn’t a great venue, ditto Miami. Phoenix is alright, Dallas is awesome.

It’s less about the venue and more about the location because it’s more about the atmosphere for the whole week. In 2006 they had it at Detroit, decent stadium but there’s not a lot to do. Ditto Minnesota etc. The only cold weather location that worked was New York, and that was probably a one time thing.
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Rosegreen1 said:
They really screwed up, 50k and they would be considered for the power conferences AND hosting a Super Bowl or Championship game, Chargers etc

They really ****ed up at 35k.
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It wasnt getting funded at the higher/larger stadium.. Thats one of the reasons/selling points on the "future expansion" capabilities they designed into the stadium to allow for a shorter renovation period to expand capacity. It was a bridge to get them a stadium but itll likely never get expanded.
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lvrebalum2012
Rosegreen1 said:
They really screwed up, 50k and they would be considered for the power conferences AND hosting a Super Bowl or Championship game, Chargers etc

They really ****ed up at 35k.
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Have you been to snapdragon? In order to host a major event like a Super Bowl, they’d need ALOT more features/amenities than just 15k more seats.
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Rosegreen1
TimothyC3 said:
I agree on the facilities and specifically Snapdragon. 35k capacity will not cut it for a Big 12 football stadium. Last year UNLV had 40k plus for the Reno game. UNLV is turn key and has facilities for major sports football and basketball as good as any if not better than any in the Big 12. What gets overlooked with Alligiant is the fact that UNLV has their own locker rooms, offices and field. All UNLV needs to do is continue to win.
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They really screwed up, 50k and they would be considered for the power conferences AND hosting a Super Bowl or Championship game, Chargers etc

They really ****ed up at 35k.
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Bullmastiff 1
TimothyC3 said:
Big 12 map. UNLV will fit in very nicely geographically with BYU, UU, ASU, UA and CU.


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Playing devil's advocate.

CINCY/WVU/UCF are stranded a bit. The assumption is always Memphis/Tulane and USF being in play for the ACC if they need to reload. I think the BIG 12 could look at any of those schools to lend CINCY/UCF/WVU a hand with another travel partner.
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j. spilotro said:
They’ll probably all “do better”. His “no system”system didn’t make a single player better. The team cohesiveness was not strong. There was zero mental toughness.

It was a really bad era. It really was a wasted four years. It’s easy to get 18 wins. Anybody could do that. You get at least 10-12 freebies in conference and there’s always half a dozen scrubs in OOC. It’s not something to hang your hat on, unless you play in a top 5 conference and play a top 50 OOC. And we don’t do either.
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This. I mean some guys he took all their potential and shoved it to the bench because they were more comfortable just rolling the ball out on the court and playing rather than following his lack of direction direction... Hall has flourished since Kevin refused to give him more playing time as a freshman because he was making freshman mistakes in between being a really good 7-8 guy. Its not a real fair comparison to say "Oh man, Id like to have seen Josh keep him" if next year a few of these guys go for like 15/10... mainly because thats probably what their true potential was and CKK never got it out of players not named Bryce and Harkless.
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A little smoke….Graney….

RebelinWA
TimothyC3 said:
I agree on the facilities and specifically Snapdragon. 35k capacity will not cut it for a Big 12 football stadium. Last year UNLV had 40k plus for the Reno game. UNLV is turn key and has facilities for major sports football and basketball as good as any if not better than any in the Big 12. What gets overlooked with Alligiant is the fact that UNLV has their own locker rooms, offices and field. All UNLV needs to do is continue to win.
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People forget one major win is that Allegiant didn't cost us a dime to build. Snapdragon was $310m. As much as the Pac likes to dump UNLV for being poverty U, we didn't take out a 30 year loan. Granted 2/3rds of it is covered by CSU- backed bonds. But that's still $100m or so that SDSU is on the hook for.
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WarthogRebel
Rebel1986 said:
They are not losing it, they have never had market penetration in San Diego, and now they have a stadium that would never get them into the Big12. In order to even be considered for the Big12, they would need to have a stadium that seats 45K plus, and that would take 3-5 years to get approved and built. The Big12 is not going to take SDSU based on the future construction of a new stadium, or the future design and expansion of the existing stadium. Personally I believe SDSU is now dead in the water.
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This is true. The design is advertised in several websites as being able to expand to 55,000. However, there aren't even any publicly available renderings showing it. Looking at the approval process in San Diego it would take 18 -24 months for concept approval. 6 mo. to 18 mo. for design and design approval. And 24 months for construction. I was once an advocate for an on campus Rebel stadium of this size that could be expanded. I'm pretty sure we could get the design/build faster than Cali. But not fast enough. Looks like we did good with Allegiant.
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Rebel1986 said:
They are not losing it, they have never had market penetration in San Diego, and now they have a stadium that would never get them into the Big12. In order to even be considered for the Big12, they would need to have a stadium that seats 45K plus, and that would take 3-5 years to get approved and built. The Big12 is not going to take SDSU based on the future construction of a new stadium, or the future design and expansion of the existing stadium. Personally I believe SDSU is now dead in the water.
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This post his caused a sexual arousal in me. Thanks.
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