Rod_the_Rebel said:

Let’s use Nicholas cage-in-National treasure logic.

4 quarters in a game.
Big 12.
12/4 =3
UNLV won by 3
UNLV is going to the Big 12


America.

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UNLV got 2 first downs from inside the 1
UNLV won 2 games vs Big 12
1,2= 12
UNLV to the Big 12...

I guess it is possible to wait for the 43 mil guaranteed in poaching fees, then dissolve. Not sure if there is a stipulation in that 43 mil poaching fee protecting against that. I would assume there would be, but maybe not.

But again, we are leaving out the other 72 million in exit fees. Those will likely go away. So which of these remaining schools are financially sound to give up and additional 10 mil+ a piece, more if AFA leaves for the AAC just to try to join the CUSA?

If nothing changes and the MW tries to rebuild with some CUSA teams, perhaps a couple of others, they will have the capital to poach, and I believe the new schools will get a slight bump in annual revenue. It would be less than what the MW gets now, far less, but likely better than what the CUSA currently gets.

It depends how far they want to stretch the footprint, but I can see the MW going after Liberty for instance.

I really don't think the MW dissolves. I would personally love that. I think we would be in the PAC the next day. Hell the Big 12 may kick the tires if it doesn't have to pony up front. But dissolving the conference takes millions of dollars out of the leftovers that they can't afford to give up. It would be stupid for them to do so.

Sanford canceled ESPN's trip to Tempe the following week when he beat a ranked ASU team on the road. That was pretty cool.

(I think Georgia? was scheduled to play ASU the next week)

unlv7163 said:

Depends on where we go from here really. Next next 5 games are tough. Could end up in a similar situation. If going purely off of what it meant for a season, I would say 1994 against Reno would get my vote. That win, over a rival that had beaten us 5 consecutive times, gave us our one and only conference championship. Was at that game. Was very cold (for Vegas anyway).

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I also go for Reno 94. It meant a lot back then. The Kofi Banks catch. The DeJohn Branch TD run. It was awesome. And probably the coldest I have ever been.

WarthogRebel said:

If we want to go to the AAC, we better be sure. It’s $18 million to get to the AAC. It would be another $18 million to get out of the AAC if something else better were to come along. That’s a boatload of cash for our program.

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This article states pretty much what I thought. I did not know about the "threatcaster" that is pretty funny.

Also it does make me laugh a bit that the MW tried to raise the price on the Pac 12 for that second year of the scheduling agreement. They obviously took that well!

As for jumping to the ACC, I agree with Warthog. No reason to rush. Something better may come up, and I think the PAC is better for sure. We don't need to announce that anytime soon.

This was an objective decision and UNLV was not one of those top 4 media markets. Simple as that. I think we have all, myself included, overestimated the power of being in Las Vegas. Market penetration matters, and no one knows that better than the media companies themselves.

So what is next, show up and watch games. Hell I saw that recording a game also counts with Nielson Ratings. . So record games that you go to, it helps ratings. Tell you friends. Sneak to your inlaws TVs and set it their DVR to record all UNLV content and don't tell them. We need to show everyone, especially the Big 12, that UNLV can have fans and are worth the investment.

Also of course go to games. Yes this includes basketball. If you care about UNLV athletics our window is maybe less than a year right now to either be truly upgraded or left in the dust.

WarthogRebel said:

If we want to go to the AAC, we better be sure. It’s $18 million to get to the AAC. It would be another $18 million to get out of the AAC if something else better were to come along. That’s a boatload of cash for our program.

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It may not be a case of want but need.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Yeah Gloria got blindsided. And I was so looking forward to having her be the Pac-14 Commissioner. And I will say again, I do not the like the way tis came down. Screw the MW just like we got screwed. But the remaining schools have a somewhat soft landing with all the money that will be shelled out. Plus you still have 2 full seasons as a conference, then the 2-year grace period. So no hurry at all to do something drastic.

For UNLV (and AF), don't give up yet. The timing of the poaching payment, and possibly getting your hands on some of it, is intriguing right there. Granted it's only about $5M per remaining team. I hold firm to the belief that a Pac offer is coming. To me we need to get UNLV and either AF or ? from the MW to solidify at 8. Then these Memphis/Tulane/directional Texas notions can be put on the backburner for awhile.

WSU's games with BSU, Fresno and SDSU have taken on a whole new meaning. Wish we were playing you guys too.

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Considering UNLV is the only ranked team in the MWC or PAC, I am not concerned about the future of UNLV.

We will need that money to put towards our next HC in BB??

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Tulane/Memphis are my guess.

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Loyal Coug is not as clueless as some think. Look at his comments above.

Rod_the_Rebel said:

Rumors starting to surface on Reddit /cfb that a PAC 12 meeting is scheduled for this week. Possible decisions on expansion.

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Tulane/Memphis are my guess.

Rumors starting to surface on Reddit /cfb that a PAC 12 meeting is scheduled for this week. Possible decisions on expansion.

WarthogRebel said:

Interesting that they may entertain the thought of eventually taking us in the PAC 12 but at a reduced payout rate.

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A lot will depend on a few things. Will others break rank to join the new PAC? Will they be able to get a commitment from Memphis / Tulane? The new PAC has to have a minimum of 8 members, so are they willing to bring in a crappy school or two, just to get up to that number in the event that other schools play hardball with them?

Somewhat of a high stakes poker game. If no other teams were to join the PAC, those 6 would be royally screwed, so although the PAC does have leverage, they could get screwed over in a major way if the other schools decided to stay put.

IMO, once the PAC has 8 schools, they'll have more leverage. At 6, they're still vulnerable. Also, I'm wondering what the structure is for the new PAC including buyouts if/when schools want to leave in the future.

reagan21 said:

The threatcaster is the reason the poaching provision with the Pac2 was put in place. Guess they underestimated what the poaching fee should have been. $10M/team should have been the price.

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True..Still funny (not ha ha funny) that it still happened despite it.

If we want to go to the AAC, we better be sure. It’s $18 million to get to the AAC. It would be another $18 million to get out of the AAC if something else better were to come along. That’s a boatload of cash for our program.

LocoRebel said:

I really feel if they get Tulane and Memphis to commit, they need to bridge the gab some. Get Texas State and UTSA. Gives you some local interest with the rivalry, a small piece of texas, and reasonably distanced road games for Memphis and Tulane.

Looking at current makeup, Tulane is only slightly closer to the rest of the AAC anyway. Memphis being far west tennessee, they are more in the footprint of course.

I keep seeing North Texas involved in posts and commentary (mostly Twitter). They be second to last resort for Pac 12 into Texas imo. UTEP would be the only one I would want less if I was P12

FAU
Charlotte
ECU
Temple
Navy

Those 5 aren't much further from Tulane than 4 or 5 of the PAC12 schools, right? I haven't mapped and my geography sucks east of Colorado....

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I guess it depends on what they're looking to do. Do they really want to create a new conference that spans from Washington to Florida? Maybe they do, but I was thinking they would try to stay somewhat more regional.

Rebel1986 said:

That is the same Michigan that struggled to beat Arkansas St. by 10 on their own home field, and was down 24-3 to Texas in the first half before Texas put in their bench and still won by 19.

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Yeah, I know. Part of why I'm not sure what to make of Fresno.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Wait you forgot the exit fees. Another $17M per school. What's 7x17? Another $119M?

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This deal is even sweeter than I had first envisioned.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Yeah but our commisioner spent money on a 'threatcaster'. A person who's sole job was to identify possible poaching threats from other conferences.

And it was our own conference members. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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The threatcaster is the reason the poaching provision with the Pac2 was put in place. Guess they underestimated what the poaching fee should have been. $10M/team should have been the price.

reagan21 said:

UNLV should talk every member in the MWC to going to other conferences then collect all $110M from the Pac-6 for itself. Put it all on black. This is a fool proof plan.

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Wait you forgot the exit fees. Another $17M per school. What's 7x17? Another $119M?

Bullmastiff 1 said:

You were correct we had a traitor in our midst. It wasn't that we let the foxes in the hen houses. They were already there.

I no longer believe you are a sleeper agent. 😀

And our commissioner got absolutely bamboozled..

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Yeah Gloria got blindsided. And I was so looking forward to having her be the Pac-14 Commissioner. And I will say again, I do not the like the way tis came down. Screw the MW just like we got screwed. But the remaining schools have a somewhat soft landing with all the money that will be shelled out. Plus you still have 2 full seasons as a conference, then the 2-year grace period. So no hurry at all to do something drastic.

For UNLV (and AF), don't give up yet. The timing of the poaching payment, and possibly getting your hands on some of it, is intriguing right there. Granted it's only about $5M per remaining team. I hold firm to the belief that a Pac offer is coming. To me we need to get UNLV and either AF or ? from the MW to solidify at 8. Then these Memphis/Tulane/directional Texas notions can be put on the backburner for awhile.

WSU's games with BSU, Fresno and SDSU have taken on a whole new meaning. Wish we were playing you guys too.

InZoneU said:

The fact this deal was done in Vegas, without UNLV involved, has me in tears.

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Yeah but our commisioner spent money on a 'threatcaster'. A person who's sole job was to identify possible poaching threats from other conferences.

And it was our own conference members. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The fact this deal was done in Vegas, without UNLV involved, has me in tears.

Rod_the_Rebel said:

Let’s use Nicholas cage-in-National treasure logic.

4 quarters in a game.
Big 12.
12/4 =3
UNLV won by 3
UNLV is going to the Big 12


America.

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I'd see that in theatres

UNLV should talk every member in the MWC to going to other conferences then collect all $110M from the Pac-6 for itself. Put it all on black. This is a fool proof plan.

Let’s use Nicholas cage-in-National treasure logic.

4 quarters in a game.
Big 12.
12/4 =3
UNLV won by 3
UNLV is going to the Big 12


America.