Bullmastiff 1 said:

Is it all G5 get cut or that conference?

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Meister_Rebel said:

He/she is not exactly wrong. You don't have to get into the CFP to make money. If you just look at the current 24/25 football season each G5 school will make about 1.8 million guaranteed from the CFP so adding the current media contract 7 million you get the 8.8 million. Once all those AAC teams leave then we are in a whole new ball game since they may lose their media contract 7 million.

So, just know that the CFP is going to pay us that money just for being a G5 school. Now the money the P4 and Notre Dame get is a whole other thing. I believe I read Notre Dame will get 12 million. And, that is for not even getting to the playoffs. The G5 schools really get crapped on with just 1.8 million

This year, if we get to a CFP semi final game we could get an additional 6 million I believe.

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dcut03 said:

"With the CFP"
What does that mean?
You can't factor in getting into the CFP for the annual contract. You gotta get there first buddy.
Legacy schools keep their 7 mil for now, the newest members are getting less, with a promise to even out eventually.
You aren't getting 7 mil again after you lose your 4 best teams/markets. Even less if you get poached again.

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WarthogRebel said:

Could it be SDSU said they would jump but only if we were excluded?

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Masked_rebel said:

Yup...There's a clause ESPN will certainly use if Memphis and Tulane leave to withdraw from the contract. It was specifically added to keep from over paying for bad product. You think the MWC deal was bad, wait till you see the deal an AAC without Houston, UCONN, UCF, Cincy, Tulane, and Memphis gets... we'd be better off staying in a new MWC that adds a few teams and building our programs into super powers...

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Masked_rebel said:

Except we don't need the PAC... do you really want to fly to South Florida, then San Antonio in back to backs while taking a payout percentage less than the first 6 teams and paying your own exit fee... no thanks

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Masked_rebel said:

Except we don't need the PAC... do you really want to fly to South Florida, then San Antonio in back to backs while taking a payout percentage less than the first 6 teams and paying your own exit fee... no thanks

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dcut03 said:

I would totally do that 3.5 hour drive for a UTSA game! Lol

I do believe UTSA is seriously considered.
It feels like Memphis is holding out for something. Probably B12. Tulane? Not so sure.

USF? I think that is just too far. Also not a good enough program I think. Decent market though.

Honestly I could see UTSA and UNLV and they shut it down for a bit.

I also think they might be working out some sort of deal with UNLV currently. Some sort of fee assistance program

UNLV actually has a little power as long aa we keep winning. If we drop 3 in a row we lose a good bit of that

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Masked_rebel said:

Except we don't need the PAC... do you really want to fly to South Florida, then San Antonio in back to backs while taking a payout percentage less than the first 6 teams and paying your own exit fee... no thanks

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

Did you hear UTSA coach interview when asked about it?

It sure sounded like there have been talks.

If PAC adds anymore from MWC it's likely UNLV.

I wouldn't rule UNM, USU or SJSU out completely either. Reno/Wyo I can't see it.

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1Tripoda said:

South Florida is in Tampa, Florida. That is a good thing? From Pullman, WA and Corvallis, OR to Tampa, FL? For what? What are their best deal? $10 per? The AAC deal is at $9 millions?

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

I hope you're right and no news is good news.

But if UTSA and South Florida jump ship along with Tulane and Memphis (There's smoke with those 2 schools) That would put PAC at 10. Spots start running out quick.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

I hope you're right and no news is good news.

But if UTSA and South Florida jump ship along with Tulane and Memphis (There's smoke with those 2 schools) That would put PAC at 10. Spots start running out quick.

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dcut03 said:

You aren't getting 7 mil again after you lose your 4 best teams/markets. Even less if you get poached again.

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dcut03 said:

Memphis and Tulane? Yes. I buy that. And that well documented.
UTSA makes since. Not as good competitively, but a good market in TX.
Texas State? That is a stretch. Bad market for a football team that has been FBS for maybe 8 years?
UNT? Meh. Denton is close to Dallas but don't think they count as the DFW market. If so they have poor penetration if they do.
PAC has also said 9 teams.
I don't think it is too far fetched to think Stanford/Cal comes back. There was a good a out of talk about that last week, thouh I javent heard much since. Remember they are traveling across the country to play fo free.
But I do think UNLV is a target. So do A LOT of people. I do think they are on deck a d the finances are a tougher sell. But it also looks like the AAC teams could get expensive.
I also don't think that 2 more MW teams go to the PAC that is definitely too expensive.

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1Tripoda said:

UNLV is in such a good position...just relax a little.

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dcut03 said:

"With the CFP"
What does that mean?
You can't factor in getting into the CFP for the annual contract. You gotta get there first buddy.
Legacy schools keep their 7 mil for now, the newest members are getting less, with a promise to even out eventually.
You aren't getting 7 mil again after you lose your 4 best teams/markets. Even less if you get poached again.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

Yeah well now I'm not relaxed and everyone needs to suffer the same anxiety.

Before I thought UNLV would find a good landing spot, the way this might be heading, not so sure now.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

For this round of media deals yes.

That contract was written when UH, UCF and Cincy were there. If Tulane, Memphis, and rumors of UTSA and USF leaving are true, there's absolutely no way they get the same deal again.

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father judge said:

With the CFP aac teams will get 8.8 to 9 million per school.

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1Tripoda said:

Are you sure it wasn't from the Traitor Four's gumming? Just relax Bull. You told people to relax, follow your own advice.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

With everybody.

WSU, OSU,CSU, BOISE,FRESNO, SDSU along with their top targets who appear to be Memphis and Tulane.

They knew there would be a trickle down effect in the MWC.

AFA has been pondering a move to join ARMY/NAVY and now have even more incentive.

AFA bolts the MWC is in major trouble of staying together.

I guarantee you every AD and President at UNM, RENO, WYO, USU and UNLV are on the phone with AAC, CUSA discussing potential landing spots. MWC commissioner looking at possible mergers? Potential targets to poach etc.

Reality of the situation is, MWC is teetering on imploding. And UNLV may not be in the PAC's future plans.

I don't know.

Because unless there's a BIG12 invite coming, UNLV could end up in CUSA or AAC and neither would be great.

I guess it's possible MWC tries to stay alive by poaching but their options are pretty limited I think.

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1Tripoda said:

Part of discussion with whom? The Traitor Fours? Probably not. Discussion with PAC2? That is what I heard. The first.

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