Masked_rebel said:

Let's say both things happen... we don't get a bunch of money and the P4 invite never comes... what keeps us in the MWC at that point. Say we've had 3 or 4 years of MWC dominance, the P4 scramble happens we aren't invited, why stay in MWC. We'd be the most desirable program in the country for any of the remaining leagues to add. Would joining the AAC and travel suck, sure, but the competition would be better and payouts higher. Or why wouldn't the Pac 12 add us... just saying it was worth the risk


As far as “long term” is concerned… if at the end of 4 years of the new media deals (2030?) for both conferences it’s “not working out”, do you not think the PAC or potentially another league want UNLV in 2032?

If we essentially break even with the PAC over the course of their media deals and then join them in 2032 wouldn’t we have played our cards perfectly?

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The idea of joining the PAC later is a real possibility. The caveat to that is there is no free pass ror the PAC and the MW really likes unreasonable exit fees. We will see how much of those fees get actually collected in the next couple of years so it may not matter as much. But it is at least likely the future exit fees will at least try to be more punitive. So whatever benefits and bonuses UNLV get now may be negated down the road. Especially if the yearly base take home delta is big.
But all of that could be worth it just to shoot our shot at the P4 even if it fails if we join later. Even if we lose a few potential bucks along the way.

Rebel Hoya said:

Agree completely with all of this. How are posters making this something to worry about? Having two quality QBs (from major programs) is important for depth.

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I’m somewhat of a passive Michigan fan because my wife and her family are die hards. Orji is a stand up dude, gave a ton of effort to his team, and was loved because of that by the fans. With that being said, his passing game isn’t anywhere close to what Hajj’s was. So my only concern is the why behind the commitment. He’s not going to turn into a passing QB no matter how good Mullen is. I’m just surprised he’s downgrading for UNLV when there’s a chance he’s not the starter. Now if he takes on a similar role that he had at Michigan when JJ McCarthy was the starter then I’m all for it. Makes for some dynamic play calls. It’s just surprising is all for me. And if he’s going to end up being the starter (who knows what Mullens plan is) then I promise you the same frustration we had with the passing game this year will be present next year. I’m curious to see how this all plays out.

I mentioned this on another thread, but maybe he plans to use him in a Slash/Taysom Hill type role.

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Yep of you’re gonna get paid you are going to hear about it when you don’t deliver welcome to the real world.

InZoneU said:

Don't see any team beating the Ravens.

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Bills…I need to see Lamar not throw a pick or miss an open guy with the game on the line up in Buffalo.

Team toughness stems directly from the coach. Regardless of the talent coaches like Bobby Knight and Greg Marshall always fielded teams that were tough as nails.

That would be cool if he did that maybe he has a Slash type role in mind for him a la Kordell Stewart.

WarthogRebel said:

Very true. But he could have done the same at Michigan. I doubt he left Michigan to come to UNLV without believing he'd get much more visibility?

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I think he believes Mullen and Dennis are going to be able to make him a better QB. Dennis spent the last 5 years at Ohio State as the QB coach. Dennis has his work cut out for him with our new QB's. If Mullen and Dennis can make these guys better I really believe we are going to draw in a lot of other QB's in the future. We will find out in about 7 months.

Not sure about that, I like Pape. He has an aggressive offensive nature that just needs some refinement, he seems to have a knack for rebounding and he has what can't be taught. 7'0" with long arms.
Unfortunately somebody will come grab him away.

Pistol Pete 1 said:

As I recall Joel Anthony was quite a project that needed to redshirt a year to develop. I maybe wrong as Iam getting old & it was a long time ago.

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You are correct!
But these guys we have in the middle now are never going to be as dominant as he was in year 2!

Gator 82 said:

Unless Orji makes some significant gains in his passing efficiency in the offseason. I just don’t see him winning the starting position, but you’d be a fool to not take this guy just based on his athleticism alone. Hopefully Mullen can work him up

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He had the same duo at Florida. He absolutely can.

Unless Orji makes some significant gains in his passing efficiency in the offseason. I just don’t see him winning the starting position, but you’d be a fool to not take this guy just based on his athleticism alone. Hopefully Mullen can work him up

ckfitz said:

Didn't UNLV have problems this year with red zone scoring? Maybe Orji is the answer to that problem.

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Very true. But he could have done the same at Michigan. I doubt he left Michigan to come to UNLV without believing he'd get much more visibility?

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Meister_Rebel said:

Saban wanted him at Alabama but not as a QB. Michigan is one of the few schools that gave him a chance as QB. If we are going to have him as a QB then project might be right. He is definitely a high level athlete that if he wanted he would excel at other positions but, that's not what he wants. Even Prime wanted him to play on the high school team he coached but not as QB and Orji didn't go to that high school for that reason. And of course Prime had his own son as QB so that wasn't ever going to happen.

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Didn't UNLV have problems this year with red zone scoring? Maybe Orji is the answer to that problem.

rebel5280 said:

And neither of them as good as Joel Anthony! Sigh

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As I recall Joel Anthony was quite a project that needed to redshirt a year to develop. I maybe wrong as Iam getting old & it was a long time ago.

Don't see any team beating the Ravens.

I have only watched about a total of one half of UNLV basketball this season and from what little I’ve seen, none of it is very good.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Alex Orji is an elite athlete. No question.

But he is definitely a project as a QB in the BIG10 or MWC.

At the HS level he completed just 50% of his passes.

Has a big arm but struggles with accuracy and touch on throws more than 10 yards down the field.

Was a 3* coming out of HS. So he wasn't exactly viewed as an elite prospect at the QB position.

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Saban wanted him at Alabama but not as a QB. Michigan is one of the few schools that gave him a chance as QB. If we are going to have him as a QB then project might be right. He is definitely a high level athlete that if he wanted he would excel at other positions but, that's not what he wants. Even Prime wanted him to play on the high school team he coached but not as QB and Orji didn't go to that high school for that reason. And of course Prime had his own son as QB so that wasn't ever going to happen.

1Tripoda said:

Unless CBO show that he tries to get those players that transfer out off UNLV to stay, I feel strongly that the money he spend in recruiting those players should be return to UNLV from his salaries.

Forget about the legacy. He maybe violated a contractual or ethical agreements.

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From what I've seen college football these days has no ethics. That goes for coaches and players. The NIL and transfer portal has turned amateur, college football upside down and certainly not for the better. The NCAA better step-in soon and come up with some common sense regulations.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

I'm not speaking for Rosegreen. But words should have meaning.

'Legacy' seems a bit much.

Impact..Sure..

Legacy...Seems like you need a little more. Like a third year and conference title.

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LOL Go ahead and use whatever adjective or term or euphemism for 'legacy' you guys think is appropriate. Footprint, Indelible Mark,Bequeathment, whatever works...I won't be mad.

Rosegreen1 said:

Orji is a very good pickup. I don’t understand the negativity, he’s a national champion that has seen the biggest stages of College Football and has been a starter for one of the CFB premier program. The pressure that comes with that is immense and he will do well here under CDM and playing vs MW competition.

Absolutely dynamic player and will be competing for the starter position. He has the potential to put up funny numbers against this level of competition.

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Agree completely with all of this. How are posters making this something to worry about? Having two quality QBs (from major programs) is important for depth.

Alex Orji is an elite athlete. No question.

But he is definitely a project as a QB in the BIG10 or MWC.

At the HS level he completed just 50% of his passes.

Has a big arm but struggles with accuracy and touch on throws more than 10 yards down the field.

Was a 3* coming out of HS. So he wasn't exactly viewed as an elite prospect at the QB position.