Colorado will dicuss their intentions to move the Big 12 Tomorrow at 3pm during the Board of regents meeting. This will be their 2nd meeting this week. Hearing that they have been talking with the Big 12 everyday for the last 2 weeks. Now I understand why the Pac 12 Commissioner and the Colorado AD left media day early.
Colorado will discuss move to the Big 12 tomorrow.
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That rock is rolling. No stopping it now. Washington or Arizona will make the move with Colorado.
Pac-12 will be back to the Pac8 really soon. They are scrambling to see what's next. They'll have to be reactive almost immediately. SDSU will only get the invite if more that CO moves on, and that's almost a guarantee. Washington and Oregon want out at this point and Arizona wants to partner with CO. It was AZ reaching out to the Big12 which started this mess. This gives them the opportunity to bolt.
Every Pac school has scheduled a Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. The ship is sinking and the first lifeboat has already left. The big question is Who's next to leave.
I think the fact that Oregon and UW have been very quiet may be telling. We knew nothing about SC and UCLA leaving until they did. Even the coaches at those schools said they got calls on golf courses letting them know basically at the same time we all found out.
I still think the Big “10” uses this pac12 collapse to get Washington and Oregon
Oregon and Washington State to MWC…or is it us to the PAC”12”?
The BIG has already vetted Oregon, Cal, UDub, Stanford and Utah. I predicted in another thread that when the dust settled The PAC will be OSU, WSU, UNLV, SDSU, CSU, UNM, FSU, Boise, USU, Air Force, Reno and Hawaii for Football only. Gonzaga will be a basketball only member.
No. Also, there hasn’t been a team that’s joined a new conference that ended up having to pay their full buyout fee so we likely wouldn’t.
I’d be thrilled to join the leftovers of the PAC. Any increased money from where we currently are is a step in the right direction.
@TimothyC3 , I’ll buy you lunch at hazel Wilson House of Commons if you are correct.
And the MWC is dissolved.
I don’t know the answer. it would depend on the conference bylaws. But I would anticipate there would be a requirement that the conference must have a minimum number of members to exist. Also, the ncaa could have a similar requirement.
I just checked and the source is Wiki. So take it for what it is worth. But it appears ncaa rules for D-1 conferences require 7 members.
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I’d imagine if majority want to dissolve, they can. Meaning 7 or more. Happened to the big east over a decade ago.
But I’m not sure the MW would have 7. Think best case scenario for invites is 6.
Hopefully Arizona leaves too. This would be best case for unlv.
Colorado st will definitely be invited now with Colorado’s departure.
Be interesting in PAC implodes or of just a couple schools leaves.
If I’m taking the full time apple streaming all day now and sending invites. We’ll see. They have not been proactive at all.
But I’m not sure the MW would have 7. Think best case scenario for invites is 6.
Hopefully Arizona leaves too. This would be best case for unlv.
Colorado st will definitely be invited now with Colorado’s departure.
Be interesting in PAC implodes or of just a couple schools leaves.
If I’m taking the full time apple streaming all day now and sending invites. We’ll see. They have not been proactive at all.
Worst case it sounds like Stanford, Cal, Washington St. Oregon st will be sticking together. Mostly because they have too.
That means San Diego st. Boise, UNLV, Fresno, Colorado st. SMU and maybe Tulane and Air Force.
That means San Diego st. Boise, UNLV, Fresno, Colorado st. SMU and maybe Tulane and Air Force.
Here’s something to think about. I remember reading an article from around 10 to 15 years ago and the author gave the opinion that the Old WAC-16 was ahead of its time and it was a tremendous mistake to break up when it did. Yeah the quad system was ill conceived. But this was pre BCS and based on number of members (strength in numbers), the on field performance of some of the football programs, members from the old Southwest Conference which was at the time considered major and location of WAC members in major media markets, the author felt there was a legit shot at BCS membership similar to the Big East at the time. IMO he was onto something there and could have been right.
| MOUNTAIN DIVISION, 1996-98 | PACIFIC DIVISION, 1996-98 |
|---|---|
| BYU | Air Force |
| New Mexico | Colorado State |
| Rice | Fresno State |
| SMU | Hawaii |
| TCU | San Diego State |
| Tulsa | San Jose State |
| Utah | UNLV |
| UTEP | Wyoming |
I hate to totally shit on the PAC but my goodness does their commissioner look like a total clown right now.
Colorado roots were in the Big 12 they had zero success in the Pac12 made sense. Pac12 will suffer in the short run they need to add the right filler schools hang onto what they have and hope that the bloated conferences fail as travel costs for non revenue sports drags them down. Geography has a way of stopping many conquering empires. We shall see.
I would think if the Pac12 loses one more school then they need to forget the media rights deal and focus on long term survival. I mean what can you negotiate in the media world when you don't know who is staying or going. The Pac12 should seriously consider a merger with the MWC. I'd fire the Pac12 commissioner and let the MWC commissioner take over.
The Pac12 down to 9 schools and in the next couple of weeks it could be down to 6 schools. At that point they are a dead man walking.
But, don't expect this to actually happen as the Pac12 commissioner doesn't seem to me to be on the ball with anything.
There was talk of doing something with the ACC but, travel costs for those non-revenue sports is going to be a killer. The MWC - Pac12 merger is the best solution from my view from the Rockies.
The Pac12 down to 9 schools and in the next couple of weeks it could be down to 6 schools. At that point they are a dead man walking.
But, don't expect this to actually happen as the Pac12 commissioner doesn't seem to me to be on the ball with anything.
There was talk of doing something with the ACC but, travel costs for those non-revenue sports is going to be a killer. The MWC - Pac12 merger is the best solution from my view from the Rockies.
Troy Calhoun questions Air Force’s placement in the Mountain West: “I don’t know if it’s really a match” (c. 2019)
If the conference name changes but most of the members are still the same, is it still not a match? Maybe Howdy Doody could wangle an invite to the AAC (Navy) or go indy (Army). Wouldn't break my heart to see him go and take his cut blocking scheme with him.
I sure hope we aren't going to jump to a failing Pac 12... The Big 12 needs bodies and we should volunteer as Tribute... natural
16-18... SEC and Big 10 aren't done adding snd they'll want to keep up
What is so sad about the current state of UNLV right now, is that if the basketball program was at the level it was under Lon Kruger and with all of the major infrastructure improvements in football, even with the lack of winning in football the chances of UNLV to the Big XII would have increased in a major way IMO.
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