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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

Loyal Coug1
Meister_Rebel said:
Yeah, that name poaching is just a name started on one of these forums. But, yes the PAC owes us that $43 million within 30 days.
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We agree. So assuming the Pac-2 writes that check, when does it get distributed? As far as exit fees go, I am assumning that they will be payable on 6/30/26. How can you be charged for something you haven't done yet? Although I guess I could argue the same about the poaching fee.

OK, so we need a secret handshake deal to take UNLV and AF or whoever. To be announced once you get some of that poaching money. :)
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Bullmastiff 1
Meister_Rebel said:
Yeah, that name poaching is just a name started on one of these forums. But, yes the PAC owes us that $43 million within 30 days.
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So wait for that money to be distributed. Then take that money and apply to your exit fee to leave MWC.

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It's like the Beavis and Butthead episode where they each are given a box of candy bars to sell for school money drive. They sit down and start handing each other the same dollar back and forth buying each other's candy bars with the same dollar until they eat it all.
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RRebel said:
Or option 3 and most likely; UNLV ****ed up again was reactive and not proactive and screwed themselves again.
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I doubt that's the case. Honestly we've had interviews where Harper discusses that they've been exploring alignment opportunities. While some of are anxiously and nervously thinking that the old UNLV is still out there waiting to screw us fans over, I think the new administration understands the landscape and is doing their due diligence to get us where we need to be. From facilities, to programs they're trying to elevate us. The conversations need to be tight lipped because the last thing you want is a leak about your discussions with say Big 12 blowing up because some sports desk guy disagrees with adding UNLV based on the box score (attendance, past performance, etc..)
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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

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Masked_rebel said:
So if we wait 30 days from Saturday, the 8 left get a cool roughly 5 million in cash guaranteed... then conference dissolves and everyone else goes their own ways... maybe the ones left behind get kicked a negotiated portion of a buyout as payout for NCAA tournament etc to keep them from real litigation...
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We are going to be in the money. If the four schools announced the same day then yes from that announcement date they have 30 days to pay. We just need the Presidents to tell Gloria to distribute that money to the 8 of us.
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Loyal Coug1
Meister_Rebel said:
I wish I could get you the document. All I have is a PDF on my hard drive. I'm ****ing clueless as how to put that on this forum.

SCHEDULE 7 WITHDRAWAL FEE The Pac-12 Parties shall pay MWC a Withdrawal Fee in accordance with this Schedule 7 for each Accepting MWC Member Institution during the Withdrawal Fee Period. For purposes of illustration, and not limitation, the “Aggregate Withdrawal Fee” column represents the aggregate Withdrawal Fee payable by the Pac-12 Parties to MWC relative to the total number of Accepting MWC Member Institutions during the Withdrawal Fee Period. Accepting MWC Member Institutions Withdrawal Fee Aggregate Withdrawal Fees Accepting MWC Member

Institution #1 $10,000,000 $10,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #2 $10,500,000 $20,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #3 $11,000,000 $31,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #4 $11,500,000 $43,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #5 $12,000,000 $55,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #6 $12,500,000 $67,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #7 $13,000,000 $80,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #8 $13,500,000 $94,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #9 $14,000,000 $108,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #10 $14,500,000 $122,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #11 $15,000,000 $137,500,000
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Good job buddy. So Withdrawal fee = Poaching fee. Quit scaring me. :)
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Loyal Coug1 said:
shit I can't find it again in that cesspool. But the section you quote - you sure "withdrawal fee" isn't "poaching fee"? Everything I read on the exit fees call them exit fees. Not withdrawal fees. Need the document....
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I wish I could get you the document. All I have is a PDF on my hard drive. I'm ****ing clueless as how to put that on this forum.

SCHEDULE 7 WITHDRAWAL FEE The Pac-12 Parties shall pay MWC a Withdrawal Fee in accordance with this Schedule 7 for each Accepting MWC Member Institution during the Withdrawal Fee Period. For purposes of illustration, and not limitation, the “Aggregate Withdrawal Fee” column represents the aggregate Withdrawal Fee payable by the Pac-12 Parties to MWC relative to the total number of Accepting MWC Member Institutions during the Withdrawal Fee Period. Accepting MWC Member Institutions Withdrawal Fee Aggregate Withdrawal Fees Accepting MWC Member

Institution #1 $10,000,000 $10,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #2 $10,500,000 $20,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #3 $11,000,000 $31,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #4 $11,500,000 $43,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #5 $12,000,000 $55,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #6 $12,500,000 $67,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #7 $13,000,000 $80,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #8 $13,500,000 $94,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #9 $14,000,000 $108,000,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #10 $14,500,000 $122,500,000

Accepting MWC Member Institution #11 $15,000,000 $137,500,000
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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

Loyal Coug1
Meister_Rebel said:
I found a link on your forum to a pdf of the agreement. You should be able to go back and find it. I don't remember which post it was in.

Per my interpretation of the agreement the PAC will have to pay the withdrawal fees at this point regardless if the MWC dissolves. The wording is very specific. Had the MWC dissolved prior to the 4 schools accepting then there would have been no withdrawal fees. But, the MWC did not dissolve prior to the MWC schools accepting the invitation to the PAC therefore you are obligated to pay those withdrawal fees.

Here is the real kicker which I hadn't read before. You've got 30 days to pay the withdrawal fee.

"Any Withdrawal Fee which becomes payable by the Pac-12
pursuant to clause (A) of Section 7.01 shall be due and payable to MWC in full in accordance with
the terms of Section 2.03 no later than 30 days following the date each such Accepting MWC
Member Institution accepts, or announces that it will accept, such offer."
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shit I can't find it again in that cesspool. But the section you quote - you sure "withdrawal fee" isn't "poaching fee"? Everything I read on the exit fees call them exit fees. Not withdrawal fees. Need the document....
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Meister_Rebel said:
I found a link on your forum to a pdf of the agreement. You should be able to go back and find it. I don't remember which post it was in.

Per my interpretation of the agreement the PAC will have to pay the withdrawal fees at this point regardless if the MWC dissolves. The wording is very specific. Had the MWC dissolved prior to the 4 schools accepting then there would have been no withdrawal fees. But, the MWC did not dissolve prior to the MWC schools accepting the invitation to the PAC therefore you are obligated to pay those withdrawal fees.

Here is the real kicker which I hadn't read before. You've got 30 days to pay the withdrawal fee.

"Any Withdrawal Fee which becomes payable by the Pac-12
pursuant to clause (A) of Section 7.01 shall be due and payable to MWC in full in accordance with
the terms of Section 2.03 no later than 30 days following the date each such Accepting MWC
Member Institution accepts, or announces that it will accept, such offer."
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So if we wait 30 days from Saturday, the 8 left get a cool roughly 5 million in cash guaranteed... then conference dissolves and everyone else goes their own ways... maybe the ones left behind get kicked a negotiated portion of a buyout as payout for NCAA tournament etc to keep them from real litigation...
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Loyal Coug1 said:
Meister - do you know this for a fact? And a link to prove it?
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I found a link on your forum to a pdf of the agreement. You should be able to go back and find it. I don't remember which post it was in.

Per my interpretation of the agreement the PAC will have to pay the withdrawal fees at this point regardless if the MWC dissolves. The wording is very specific. Had the MWC dissolved prior to the 4 schools accepting then there would have been no withdrawal fees. But, the MWC did not dissolve prior to the MWC schools accepting the invitation to the PAC therefore you are obligated to pay those withdrawal fees.

Here is the real kicker which I hadn't read before. You've got 30 days to pay the withdrawal fee.

"Any Withdrawal Fee which becomes payable by the Pac-12
pursuant to clause (A) of Section 7.01 shall be due and payable to MWC in full in accordance with
the terms of Section 2.03 no later than 30 days following the date each such Accepting MWC
Member Institution accepts, or announces that it will accept, such offer."
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Bullmastiff 1
Loyal Coug1 said:
Meister - do you know this for a fact? And a link to prove it?
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This from a Reno beat writer. Fair amount of conjecture here. Not sure if it answers your question or not.





There's also the financial aspect. The Pac-12 is on the hook for $43 million in poaching fees paid to the MW for taking four schools while those departments owe roughly $18 million each in exit fees to the MW, which the Pac-12 could help pay a part or all of. The Pac-12 would owe the MW an additional $12 million to add one more school from that conference and $22.5 million to add two. That's before the $18 million each in exit fees. If the Pac-12 picks up the tab on the exit fees, that'd be an additional $58.5 million on top of the $115 million for the first four schools. That price tag could deter the Pac-12 from taking both UNLV and Nevada.

Pac-12 insider John Canzano reported over the weekend the conference prefers to settle on ninemembers for scheduling purposes. The initial reporting has the Pac-12 now looking to the American Athletic Conference to fill out the rest of its conference with Tulane, Memphis and Texas-San Antonio among the top candidates. While the rebuilt Pac-12 getting an automatic bid into the College Football Playoff isn't going to happen, poaching the top of the MW and AAC would pave a much easier path into the CFP on an annual basis, so the Pac-12 would be incentivized to inflict some damage on the AAC with it final additions rather than continue to take from the MW.

Canzano reported the last additions to the Pac-12 are expected to happen by the end of the calendar year with the three military schools (Air Force, Army and Navy) a potential option for the Pac-12 to maximize its media-rights contract, adding, "If UNLV and Air Force don’t land in the Pac-12, I’ll bet the American Athletic Conference would take them both. I’m told there has already been contact between those sides."
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WarthogRebel
Bullmastiff 1 said:
Again why would they leave CUSA in what would amount to a lateral move now?

Wyoming USU Reno UNM aren't moving the needle on any media deal.

MWC current deal roughly 3 million. CUSA is 750k I believe.

That MWC deal was with Boise's name attached to it and three big markets in CSU/SDSU/FRESNO.

No way they get that again..

Now the FCS schools are an option but again how much are you getting by adding them? Maybe you get a deal around 1.5 ?

I don't know.

Plus you have to meet certain stadium size/attendance numbers to move FBS I thought. Does ECU meet them?

You could be right. Maybe MWC absorbs those schools and try and stand firm.

I'm not sure the logistics of it all.

All comes down to money. Investment and return.
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I believe Stadium size was removed.
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