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Hi Scott - I hope you are well! Regarding the PAC 12, at this time, we have not been asked to join this division. I am in communication with UNLV's President, and I assure you, the President and the Athletic Director will advise a decision once we are confronted with the opportunity. They believe that we will be included. I am told that this item will need to come before the Board of Regents for a final vote. Please keep in contact with me and I will be sure to share any new information I have.



My best,

Stephanie

This sounds at the least that there are on going talks and UNLV brass believe an invite may be coming.

But who knows could just be posturing.
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That’s not how it works at all. If we said we are leaving why would the MWC cut us a break in exit fees? The answer is they wouldn’t. The reason why is your example doesn’t apply. This isn’t free agency.

MWC schools have signed contracts with the conference. With 2 years notice they pay $17mm, with one year notice they pay $34mm. Plus distributions stop when they give notice.

There’s a reason why the ACC isn’t caving to FSU and Clemson even though they want to leave and cut a deal. The remaining schools that aren’t leaving want the full amount owed on the contract. The situation here is the same.

Dude math is hard!

I'm not some kind of lawyer!

I asked the one lawyer on this board for some guidance but his expertise in 18th century Agrarian law is useless here..

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…wasn’t the only reason.

Too many bad Texas programs.. Why not grab Montana and bring them to the big leagues, they have a great school and program. Then I'd probably look at Rice, maybe LA Tech, but I'm avoiding NMSU because we don't need two NM programs, avoiding Liberty for reasons that I'm not sold on their value ad... I'd like to think adding NDSU could be huge too, but man you can't add 2 subdivision teams at once, so maybe you add a North Texas, what about Northern Illinois? That's what 12?
Montana
Rice
UNT
LATech
NIU...
Not sure it's great but there's still some good markets and football schools in there

NIU would be great but would they want that travel?

Agree I think 2 FCS schools might be too many.

Stealing from yours a bit.

UNLV
RENO
USU
WYO
UH
UNM
SJSU

Plus (I'm sticking with Tulsa trying to keep some regionalism)

TULSA
N TEXAS (Or Texas State)
LA Tech
ND STATE (OR MONTANA)
RICE

…wasn’t the only reason.

This is purely a hypothetical question and if you have better suggestions definitely offer them up. I'm going off top of my head here first schools that come to mind.

Let's say everyone in the MWC remaining stays put and MWC with this exit money buy out or whatever is decides to expand.

AFA is likely out. (I'm keeping Hawaii as football only)

So we are down to..

UNLV
UNM
Utah State
San Jose State
Hawaii
Wyoming
Reno

MWC tries to get back to 12....

NMSU
LIBERTY
TULSA
TEXAS STATE (I know I know but growing program)
UTEP

Kick Tulsa out and go Rice? North Texas?
I'm asking as a nuclear option UNLV is stuck what teams would you want MWC to attempt to add?
Too many bad Texas programs.. Why not grab Montana and bring them to the big leagues, they have a great school and program. Then I'd probably look at Rice, maybe LA Tech, but I'm avoiding NMSU because we don't need two NM programs, avoiding Liberty for reasons that I'm not sold on their value ad... I'd like to think adding NDSU could be huge too, but man you can't add 2 subdivision teams at once, so maybe you add a North Texas, what about Northern Illinois? That's what 12?
Montana
Rice
UNT
LATech
NIU...
Not sure it's great but there's still some good markets and football schools in there
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…wasn’t the only reason.

That's exactly who... they want to each dominate their respective premier sport.. we're taking Boises thunder and SDSU basketball wants to be Gonzaga... it's pettiness and spite. I imagine if we are invited, there will be some tier or something granting the first 6 a higher share of media rights

This is purely a hypothetical question and if you have better suggestions definitely offer them up. I'm going off top of my head here first schools that come to mind.

Let's say everyone in the MWC remaining stays put and MWC with this exit money buy out or whatever is decides to expand.

AFA is likely out. (I'm keeping Hawaii as football only)

So we are down to..

UNLV
UNM
Utah State
San Jose State
Hawaii
Wyoming
Reno

MWC tries to get back to 12....

NMSU
LIBERTY
TULSA
TEXAS STATE (I know I know but growing program)
UTEP

Kick Tulsa out and go Rice? North Texas?
I'm asking as a nuclear option UNLV is stuck what teams would you want MWC to attempt to add?

…wasn’t the only reason.

Who are"they"? Sound like SUDS and Boise.
That's exactly who... they want to each dominate their respective premier sport.. we're taking Boises thunder and SDSU basketball wants to be Gonzaga... it's pettiness and spite. I imagine if we are invited, there will be some tier or something granting the first 6 a higher share of media rights

IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

Memphis and Tulane are not in the CUSA. Will the PAC 6 media deal beat the AAC? The MWC was not better.. I don’t see where WSU or OSU and 4 MWC teams will do much better, if any than the current AAC with their TV deal.


The ACC getting some clarification on their future today could help end some of this craziness and open the doors for some schools.

With the AAC, if Memphis and Tulane are in fact out and AFA is leaving they have some open spots.

I'm not sure if that's better for UNLV than trying to reload the MWC if there is no PAC invite. With Memphis Tulane yes. Without..Not so much.

Like I said before, I'll believe B12 stuff only after I'm drinking a beer and watching UNLV kickoff vs Oklahoma State in Stillwater and not until then. 🙂

Board Member Responses

Hi Scott - I hope you are well! Regarding the PAC 12, at this time, we have not been asked to join this division. I am in communication with UNLV's President, and I assure you, the President and the Athletic Director will advise a decision once we are confronted with the opportunity. They believe that we will be included. I am told that this item will need to come before the Board of Regents for a final vote. Please keep in contact with me and I will be sure to share any new information I have.



My best,

Stephanie

IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

Memphis and Tulane are not in the CUSA. Will the PAC 6 media deal beat the AAC? The MWC was not better.. I don’t see where WSU or OSU and 4 MWC teams will do much better, if any than the current AAC with their TV deal.

I wasn't saying they were. My point was a decimated AAC or MWC is going to be looking at a CUSA type media deal vs what they currently have. Better but not by much. Especially if MWC reloads with CUSA teams.

IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

I think it comes down to if you are a G5 do you want to be the new PAC with potentially 5+ million a year media deal or CUSA under a million?
Memphis and Tulane are not in the CUSA. Will the PAC 6 media deal beat the AAC? The MWC was not better.. I don’t see where WSU or OSU and 4 MWC teams will do much better, if any than the current AAC with their TV deal.

…wasn’t the only reason.

UNLV was not in the first wave for one of two reasons.

1. In order to get approval the BOR have to vote on it. That means it is public. So the PAC would not be able to keep it quiet like they did until the announcement. Once it is announced it doesn't matter. The Pac can pick us up on their timeline with the terms they dictate.

2. They don't want us.
Who are"they"? Sound like SUDS and Boise.

…wasn’t the only reason.

UNLV was not in the first wave for one of two reasons.

1. In order to get approval the BOR have to vote on it. That means it is public. So the PAC would not be able to keep it quiet like they did until the announcement. Once it is announced it doesn't matter. The Pac can pick us up on their timeline with the terms they dictate.

2. They don't want us.

IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

I wish my Coug brethren on my board were half as much fun as you guys. They are humorless.

Sir our football has been so bad we have had threads devolve into the evils soccer and all kicking related activity as a way for communists to infiltrate our country.

And those threads have more hits than post game recaps.

It happens when you average 3.5 wins over 25 years.

IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

I feel the PAC 6 actually over played their hand, because when the dust settles, the PAC 6 or the MWC or the AAC are all G5 and that will never change. So why would Memphis leave the AAC if they can knock off a P4 school like FSU and then run the table in the AAC and make the college football tournament? Same for Tulane or any other AAC school.

This is a new era in college football. For any school to have any chance of moving up when the next round of conference movement occurs, what is achieved in the tournament era by a G5 school is what matters. Just last year, Liberty runs the table in CUSA and is ranked as high as 18th in the AP poll.

I think it comes down to if you are a G5 do you want to be the new PAC with potentially 5+ million a year media deal or CUSA under a million?
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